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Drgreebthumb628

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First winter grow. Last summer my grow died in mid flower due to being away and had someone water them with inexperience and they drown them. Now its winter, I run dwc one is a auto (amnesia haze from cks) that shows signs of ph stress(only after I started to use ph down and set the nutrient water mix to 5.5, after the signs I stopped adjusting ph and will just use the AN con line with no ph adjustments)and what I believe is recovering from sulfur def after I added Epsom salt last night. I have already lost 1 plant due to nitrogen toxicity (royale queen seeds space queen) . My blue dream fem from HSO shows signs of nitrogen toxicity aswel but I backed off as soon as i saw. My problem now is the new growth is yellowing from the inside out, I dont think its N def as the leaves are kinda shineg and the tips were also yellowing hard to see in pic. I use the AN connoisseur line. I attempted to switch to GH flora series after my N toxicity but that has not done anything so I went back to AN last night. I flipped the lights to 12/12 three days ago as my blue dream is going to max out in height during stretch. Can anyone help with these deficiencies as the leaves almost look neon green and shiny, they are also curling/twisting. I recently riged a way to get the grow room at approx 70 deg with lights off as they were down to approx 61 degrees with lights off. Any help would greatly be appreciated as if this grow fails I will be giving up as it is to much $ on electric, nutes, time, etc...
 
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Sorry if images shouldnt be in this way I dont know how to change them. My humidity is 40 to 50 percent and temps were 79 to 61 now 80 to 65. AN Conn line for veg with b52, voodoo, sensi calman using hf strength. Veg a and b I'm doing 15ml per 3gal of a and also b 30ml total and the additives are 10 ml. For bloom on the amnesia it's in a gh dripper using everything hf strength. Bud candy, voodoo, sensizyme, bud factor, big bud
 
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The veg plant is getting Conn a and b b52 and sensi calman. The bloom plant is getting conn a b bloom. Sensizyme, bud factor, big bud, nirvana, bud candy. The additives are 5ml per 2gals as the plant is ik a gh drip system. The veg is in a 5gal dwc. I just begain week 3 of flower for the auto on sat so in have d/c the voodoo, pirana, and bud ignitor. After adding Epsom salt the yellowing has gotten somewhat better only to that plant though.
 
Galwaith

Galwaith

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Yeh you're way over doing it with fertz and nonsense.. plus, I see nothing about PH... PH being a biggie in making "Claw" leafs. Dramatic temperature fluctuations can have a dramatic effect on PH. 61F, in MY opinion is a bit too cold and the plant is slowing down, can't take in more water so it's wilting, eventually you'll start getting dead spots(which I can see some already), because the plants burning from the over nutes. That's my opinion anyway. =)
 
xtsho

xtsho

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You're using way more stuff than you need to. I see more problems with grows from people using the expensive fancy lines of nutrients and additives than people using just the basics. Don't wast your money on AN nutes. Get some MaxiBloom MaxiGrow or something similar and call it a day. Those expensive additives apparently aren't doing you any good.
 
polishpollack

polishpollack

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classic, man, just classic. people walk into the grow store and see all that stuff and spend $100 or more on it, then kill their plants with it. I've seen this pattern for years. There is only one reason why the companies make that stuff... to get your money. I have yet to see any proof that doing this kind of thing actually works.
 
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Out of products I have now what should I use? I did spend a fuckload on nutes hoping for the best dankness... btw ppm for bloom which is doing better is in the 800s up to 1k. The veg ppm is 500 to 700 depending if i add cal mag after the claw is when I backed up on nutes and kept it at 300ppm and started to have the problems with neon green, is it still nitrogen toxicity? What do I need to do?. My water ppm from well is 80 ppm. The ph is usually around 6.3-6.5. But when I used the ph down to bring it to 5.5 after adding the nutes it caused the ph to swing to 7 the next day. I stopped using ph down as it seemed to cause the ph to swing high and had the ph fluctuations streas signs. Since not using the ph down it is more stable not exceeding 6.5. Please give me any advice as all I want is a successful grow. Lowest temp with lights off is now 66-67 much better... Buying my medical is to expensive for me and MM has been a godsend for my conditions I just do not want to fail again
 
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Once PH swings up to 7 should I do a full rez change or can I add the ph down to the bucket with plant still in it? I dont want to make a bad situation worse
 
Way2-High

Way2-High

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You have to keep it simple, seems like you are way over complicating it. It doesn’t have to be rocket science, it’s a plant. I say get your shit dialed in to somewhere that you can have some consistency.
 
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If I used just connoisseur a and b, superthrive 1 drol per gal, bud factor x, nirvana and bud candy would I be good to go? Or still to much
 
Way2-High

Way2-High

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Seems like a lot to me but I’m a believer in low dose fertilizing and still a total newb. I’m sure someone with more experience will chime in.
 
Galwaith

Galwaith

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What I do..... I test the PH of my well water once a year, I am on a well and so it stays pretty constant at 8 - 8.5.... I use General Hydroponics 3 part Flora series, as well, I get a bottle of General Hydroponics PH down and add one table spoon of that to a 5 gallon bucket, and put a water pump on it for about 5 minutes to circulate.. This brings the PH down to about 6. I then follow the directions on the side of the bottle and add my nutrients....

So after 2 days, I notice the water level in my bucket is about 2/3rds gone... SO I then mix up a new batch of nutes, and hand water with a watering can until the bucket over flows. I then put the left over on a air pump and use that to top off over the next couple days. Until I have to do the next round...
 
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Galwaith said:
What I do..... I test the PH of my well water once a year, I am on a well and so it stays pretty constant at 8 - 8.5.... I use General Hydroponics 3 part Flora series, as well, I get a bottle of General Hydroponics PH down and add one table spoon of that to a 5 gallon bucket, and put a water pump on it for about 5 minutes to circulate.. This brings the PH down to about 6. I then follow the directions on the side of the bottle and add my nutrients....

So after 2 days, I notice the water level in my bucket is about 2/3rds gone... SO I then mix up a new batch of nutes, and hand water with a watering can until the bucket over flows. I then put the left over on a air pump and use that to top off over the next couple days. Until I have to do the next round...
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Thank you I will try that as soon as the lights go on
 
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With distilled water do you know how much ph down you would use?. When I used gh ph down I used 3 to 4 ml which got my ph from 6.5-6.7 to 5.5... 1 tablespoon seems like overkill but you did say your ph was higher than mine
 
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Blitz35

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If your ph swung up that much, it can be due to the fact that your source of water has a high alkalinity, which is way more important to know than the ph of it! In which case, it makes no difference how you ph it down, it won't stay there no matter what..the alkalinity will bring it back to 7. The only other way would be if you have way too much nitrogen and or sulfur, which if the plant takes up enough of it, and more than other elements, then that as well would cause the ph to go up fast.
 
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