Got it.! my apologise. plants are looking great.
Epic 4x4 Flowering Smackdown : 96 Elites vs 288s
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Or_Gro
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No need to apologize...good question on a confusing term
Thanks man....I do have another question on how you supplement co2, do you have a closed environment and or have exhaust fans come on at set intervals.?
don't want to come across as a pest, i just love the setups that you have and am planning my next tent setup using led's etc and this thread is gold to me.!
cant thank you enough
Or_Gro
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Ask away...no prob...
I use 50lb co2 tanks (std size welding cylinder). To use these tanks you need a solenoid regulator to open/close tank
And a controller to switch the regulator on/off (this unit controls temp, humidity, co2; for co2 it uses light sensor to determine day/night, no co2 at night; monitors co2 ppm in tent; and gives co2 triggering options; i synch mine with exhaust fan so fan is off when gas is flowing).
I also use this suspended from ceiling to let co2 “rain” down on plants (co2 heavier than air)
Titan CO2 Rain System
There are less expensive options, this is one of the more efficient ways to control co2...
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Or_Gro
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Day 30 from flip: Tips stacking nodes, building colas.
6x96
8x288
Continuing to see much better buddage size and development speed 96 vs 288...could be that 96s will finish faster at similar yield...will get a better feel for this at end of first pistil flush....
Can’t help think that the extra blues in the 96 spectrum are playing a role here...
6x96
8x288
Continuing to see much better buddage size and development speed 96 vs 288...could be that 96s will finish faster at similar yield...will get a better feel for this at end of first pistil flush....
Can’t help think that the extra blues in the 96 spectrum are playing a role here...
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Or_Gro
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Probably, but will wait for now...
With each defol the fan leaves grow to smaller and smaller mature size, and the sugar leaves become a higher proportion of total leafage...
at this point there aren’t that many fans, and they are only slightly larger than the sugar leaves....
I don’t remove sugar leaves...
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Or_Gro
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Nuthin sexy, but pretty frickin helpful....
Been losing 4-6” on each side of my 4x4s when the exhaust fan triggers on temp or rh (1 bottom vent open 24-7).
Pvc isn’t stiff enuff, conduit works great, especially with these snap Ts (Lowes) on the big frame of green qube tents:
(view thru window during full suck mode)
Sweetness!
Been losing 4-6” on each side of my 4x4s when the exhaust fan triggers on temp or rh (1 bottom vent open 24-7).
Pvc isn’t stiff enuff, conduit works great, especially with these snap Ts (Lowes) on the big frame of green qube tents:
(view thru window during full suck mode)
Sweetness!
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Steakbomb
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Nice!
I've seen some folks use wire shelving similarly - added benefit of somewhere to mount monitors & controllers. Since you already have those well-situated, the bar certainly takes up less space!
Or_Gro
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Easy in, easy out...and a mounting opportunity, as well....a la guardian monitor, clip-on fans, bong holder....
Or_Gro
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No. i love flexibility and am willing to pay for it...
and this is what a 4x4 needs, during flowering, to provide even ~1000ppfd at a wide range of different heights.
I believe in quantifying what is going on, so i have meters for most of my controllable variables.
The two i use for measuring PAR spectrum are the Apogee mq-500 (ppfd) and a Sekonic C-7000 (ppfd, colortemp, spectrum, various others). They are expensive.
I think everyone with white leds should have a light intensity meter. For growers who can’t afford the meters above, a lux meter can approximate ppfd by converting lux, using a correction factor (cf) for the diode model a grower is using.
The cf for the 96 elite and the 288 v2 can be approximated, close enuff, from the 96 and 288 meter readings above using this formula: lux reading x cf = ppfd reading; so, cf = ppfd/lux.
An example using the info for the 96 config:
CF= 1054.4 ppfd/71800lux = 0.01469
You can then measure intensity on the 96 config using lux, then multiply lux by cf (0.01469) to convert lux to ppfd. So if you got 68000 lux, estimated ppfd would be 998.
Use this info w the following info:
http://fluence.science/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/High-PPFD-Cultivation-Guide-9.27.16.pdf
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Steakbomb
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The same, but slightly bigger
Or_Gro
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Startin to feel that ole familiar twitch...looks like one, maybe two, pairs of micro fans per top....
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WeedSexWeightsShakes
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Think these will yield as good as your last run? They’re so much shorter, aren’t they?
Looks great tho my dude!
I got my 4x8 flower tent and 5x5 veg tent in my new garage. My little 2x4 with autos in my future grow room.
Hoping to get that room finished this Sunday and Monday. Need to get lights up, tables, trays, reservoirs and a/c in. Also have to cover up the window the a/c will be in.
Looks great tho my dude!
I got my 4x8 flower tent and 5x5 veg tent in my new garage. My little 2x4 with autos in my future grow room.
Hoping to get that room finished this Sunday and Monday. Need to get lights up, tables, trays, reservoirs and a/c in. Also have to cover up the window the a/c will be in.
Or_Gro
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Btw, if you can’t find the correct size snap Ts, just get appropriately sized regular Ts and saw off the side, to fit your tent posts.
Use some filler, i used poly-fil fiber, between T and tent poles to help grip the post tighter
Easy peasy, lemon squeezy...
Or_Gro
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6-12” tall (60 tops) vs nearly 3-5 feet (16-20 tops)...lol
Yield is a toss up....but i think a lb/plant is still within reason....avg of 7.6g per top x 60 tops would do it...we’ll see
Either way, we’ll still achieve the grow’s overall goal: which light config produces the most...and i will have learned another shipload of useful grow info/tools
Given where they are right now, my money’s on the 96s...
Glad to hear you got the plants moved, and are taking the time to set your growroom up before filling it.
Hope mom and daughter are on track for full-term, healthy delivery....got your cigars ready?
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