Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

ClydeWalters said:
Anyone know why my GSC is turning lightish yellow bear her bud sites?

RH is 60
Temp 79F
PH 6.1
PPM 700

Res is full of MegaCrop and hydrogaurd and Canna Pk with a bunch of mammoth P and Myco Chum (to feed the mycorrhizae sample I threw in her res) it will actually feed the mammoth P as well so it’s mutually beneficial across the board for me to add food for my microbes :)

They seem to be loving it! She grows so vigorously and she is flowering hard now but there is just this lack of green color centralized towards the center of the bud sites :/

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This couldn’t be a calcium magnesium thing could it? I don’t think she’s starving 700 ppm is pretty high for another flower I mean I suppose I could bump the PPM up to 1000 and see what happens but I don’t feel like I need to do that I guess I don’t know someone tell me what to do LOL
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The budsites are where almost all the growth is occuring atm...new growth starts out yellowish and eventually greens up...my guess is you’re golden...wait a few days see if you they green, or whiten up (with pistils)...
 
Or_Gro said:
I did start out hanging them by fishing leaders, but spent a lot of time trying to balance them....i gave up on this, tho others seem to like the leaders...

I now use two designs, both based on using 4 self-tapping screws, 1” angle aluminum, a hacksaw, a drill, and a screwdriver.

The first, puts all the lights in my 4x4 on the same level, and i use 2” styrofoam layers under my buckets to set the tops even under the lights:

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Basically a square frame at the walls, with pairs of cross bars to hold a pair of lights. I only have a single screw in each of the corners of the square frame; the cross bars and lights are not screwed into anything, so i can move the cross bars and lights anyyime without any work. I use blue painter’s tape at each end of the cross bars to hold them at the proper distance so lights wont fall thru. I use clamps in the tent’s corner posts to rest the square frame on to level them; i also drilled a single hole at each one’s midpoint of each side of the square frame, to attach a pulley as my insurance policy for frame not falling if a clamp comes loose....takes more time to describe than to build.

The second design essentislly is two cross bars with ends, a screw in each corner, hung by wires attached to pulleys:

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Again, i just put the lights on them (not screwed in) so i can position lights where i want them. The ones above are for 2 lights, but you could make a smaller frame, for each individual light.
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Thanks man, I am rocking similar frames to yours myself. Im gonna try the leaders and see how they work for me!
 
Moabfighter said:
Found this far red Initiator for 30 some bucks. Comes with everything except wire I think.

https://www.amazon.com/Far-Red-LED-...uantum+board&qid=1557491022&s=gateway&sr=8-17
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  • Comes with 12V adapter, does not require a separate heatsink
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Or_Gro said:
Thanks man!

These pics were about the trichs not buds, so the buds are not really shown in a way that makes them comparable or representative.

There are differences in bud size and quantity, not really shape or hardness. (I just got a durometer, hoping to start quantifying bud hardness, which is amazing).

Imo, you can’t go wrong with either type light. But, I think that the 96s will kick the shit out of the 288s in veg, tho i haven’t done a side-by-side in veg yet....
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I'm fresh into the QB world, but it's cool to see the difference.

Never even knew they made a durometer. I'm curious to see how that works when you test. Cool, cool.
 
ClydeWalters said:
Anyone know why my GSC is turning lightish yellow bear her bud sites?

RH is 60
Temp 79F
PH 6.1
PPM 700

Res is full of MegaCrop and hydrogaurd and Canna Pk with a bunch of mammoth P and Myco Chum (to feed the mycorrhizae sample I threw in her res) it will actually feed the mammoth P as well so it’s mutually beneficial across the board for me to add food for my microbes :)

They seem to be loving it! She grows so vigorously and she is flowering hard now but there is just this lack of green color centralized towards the center of the bud sites :/

View attachment 4330909

This couldn’t be a calcium magnesium thing could it? I don’t think she’s starving 700 ppm is pretty high for another flower I mean I suppose I could bump the PPM up to 1000 and see what happens but I don’t feel like I need to do that I guess I don’t know someone tell me what to do LOL
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700 or 500 scale for ppm?

RO water?
 
3rd Monkey said:
I'm fresh into the QB world, but it's cool to see the difference.

Never even knew they made a durometer. I'm curious to see how that works when you test. Cool, cool.
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Durometers used for checking hardness of materials, from gels to tires to metals...thought i’d see how well works for bud...these white leds make super f#ckin hard buds if you let them fully ripen....want to figure out a way to quantify, so that hps and white led bud hardness can be compared....hardness is always the last remaining challenge made by hps bigots...
 
Or_Gro said:
Durometers used for checking hardness of materials, from gels to tires to metals...thought i’d see how well works for bud...these white leds make super f#ckin hard buds if you let them fully ripen....want to figure out a way to quantify, so that hps and white led bud hardness can be compared....hardness is always the last remaining challenge made by hps bigots...
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Except in summer when the temps cause loose buds lol. The heat was my main reason for moving to QBs. The HPS still has a place in my heart though.
 
Or_Gro said:
700 scale is “ppm”, 500 scale is “tds”...agree, should always be clear which one....
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you've confused me on this one.. i thought tds is totally dissolved solids and the measurement for it is parts per million or ppm

that's like saying i'm measuring volume of a container and my measurement is in cubic inches.

so what do you mean by this sentence?

Or_Gro said:
700 scale is “ppm”, 500 scale is “tds”...agree, should always be clear which one....
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but tds is ppm
 
schmebulock said:
you've confused me on this one.. i thought tds is totally dissolved solids and the measurement for it is parts per million or ppm

that's like saying i'm measuring volume of a container and my measurement is in cubic inches.

so what do you mean by this sentence?



but tds is ppm
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When people refer to tds, they are using 500 scale....yes it’s still measured in ppm... the ppm we refer to all the time is the ppm measured on 700 scale...
 
Or_Gro said:
When people refer to tds, they are using 500 scale....yes it’s still measured in ppm... the ppm we refer to all the time is the ppm measured on 700 scale...
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didn't realize europeans had a 700 scale, 500 was all i was aware of.

but this is useful information:


Manufacturer Scale
Advanced Nutrients 700 scale
Botanicare 700 scale
CES/Cutting Edge Solutions 500 scale
Dutch Master 500 scale
Dyna-Gro 500 scale
FoxFarm 700 scale using dechlorinated tap water
General Hydroponics 500 scale using reverse osmosis water
General Organics 500 scale using reverse osmosis water
House & Garden 700 scale
Humboldt Nutrients 500 scale
Hydro Organics/Earth Juice 500 scale
Nectar for the Gods 700 scale
Rock Nutrients 700 scale
Roots Organics 500 scale
Rx Green Solutions 500 scale using distilled water
Soul 500 scale
Technaflora 500 scale
 
schmebulock said:
didn't realize europeans had a 700 scale, 500 was all i was aware of.

but this is useful information:


Manufacturer Scale
Advanced Nutrients 700 scale
Botanicare 700 scale
CES/Cutting Edge Solutions 500 scale
Dutch Master 500 scale
Dyna-Gro 500 scale
FoxFarm 700 scale using dechlorinated tap water
General Hydroponics 500 scale using reverse osmosis water
General Organics 500 scale using reverse osmosis water
House & Garden 700 scale
Humboldt Nutrients 500 scale
Hydro Organics/Earth Juice 500 scale
Nectar for the Gods 700 scale
Rock Nutrients 700 scale
Roots Organics 500 scale
Rx Green Solutions 500 scale using distilled water
Soul 500 scale
Technaflora 500 scale
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That's why a lot of growers switch to EC. No scale to mess with, no conversions.
 
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