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[The Mantis]

Another update and sadly no real good news this time, 12 female Space Monkeys, 8 showing balls.
If some one told me 8/12 went herm I would be questioning the room/conditions and light leaks, my room itself is 100% light proof in which I then have sealed cabs within that dark room which are also 100% light proof, not a single appliance, power board or anything i use has a light on it, I can rule out 100% this is not a light leak issue.
As for conditions, the cabs are constantly around 50-55% RH with temps always around 72-75f, the light off temperatures would never drop under 64f.
I'm not the type to push my plants too hard and I keep it rather simple with the feed, less is more imo, very healthy looking plants the whole way through.

triple checked the digital timers and they are working fine, I go in just after lights on and just before lights off on most days so I would of noticed anything odd around that, haven't had any power outages or spikes/drops in temperature.

To put it simple if 8/12 herm in my setup it's very fair to say these are super sensitive genetics.

Now how do I think this has happened? why are others having full packs of healthy females?
Well I can only speculate, last year I switched over to 315w CMH bulbs from 600w HPS and a cutting I had of a GSC cross threw absolutely no balls under the HPS, when I put it under the CMH it was fine and healthy but any lower trim which was left on the plant would throw balls, never had this issue with the same cut under HPS, since working that out I've tried the cut under CMH with shorter plants and shaved bottoms and seen 0 balls at all.

I'm wondering if some genetics can throw balls from lack of light? out of the the 8 monkeys which hermed, 6 of them only did it on the absolute bottom branching, I've shaved and kept 2 of these which I'll monitor to test this theory, 1 more ball they go.

As for the CMH, I keep them around 18 inches from the canopy over a 2.5ftx2.5ft footprint and the plants are around 2.5 foot tall, this approach works very well on everything else I grow but granted, it won't hit the lowers like a 600w setup.

I did some digging yesterday and it looks like others have too asked the same question I am with the 315w and lower balls.

Has any one got an opinion on that or similar experiences?

The one good take away note is my favorite monkey has yet to show balls and all the other strains are healthy, hasn't been a total disaster.

Sounds like they're just males. 8/12 male/female is perfectly normal. Did you sex them before flowering?

This thread might not be the best place to find help though.... you might want to search for a thread intended to help with grow problems. That's where the expert "Master growers" hang out and they love to help. This thread is where all the seed addicted Bodhi junkies hang out to show off the good grows Good luck!

 

[hillbill]

I had no trouble with Space Monkey but bought mine a couple years ago. I have had one f2 throw nanners at 6 weeks and it was still big time strong but had them nanners.

Also dusted a very stout Monkey with DNA Sleeskunk and no intersex there, just face slap potent and loud.

Seen a lot more herms lately on this thread with 5he Monkey.

 

[riumember101]

Sounds like they're just males. 8/12 male/female is perfectly normal. Did you sex them before flowering?

This thread might not be the best place to find help though.... you might want to search for a thread intended to help with grow problems. That's where the expert "Master growers" hang out and they love to help. This thread is where all the seed addicted Bodhi junkies hang out to show off the good grows Good luck!

Not really seeking advice more so just giving an update, it might value others.
they're coming just on week 3 of flower now with buds and trichome production, you couldn't get a better example of a true hermie when you've got a little bud growing with a ball sack dangling from the bottom, these 12 females came from 2 packs in which the males were removed prior.

Also to note, no funny business with forcing sex or swapping light cycles in veg/reveging like others have reported, just a simple veg till sex on 18/6, final repot 1 week prior to flower then in to 12/12 they go.

Been doing this a long time, done many of my own pollen throws and I know balls vs flowers.

No hate, bodhi still has my business, I knew the risks with a GG#4 cross.

 

[The Mantis]

Not really seeking advice more so just giving an update, it might value others.
they're coming just on week 3 of flower now with buds and trichome production, you couldn't get a better example of a true hermie when you've got a little bud growing with a ball sack dangling from the bottom, these 12 females came from 2 packs in which the males were removed prior.

Also to note, no funny business with forcing sex or swapping light cycles in veg/reveging like others have reported, just a simple veg till sex on 18/6, final repot 1 week prior to flower then in to 12/12 they go.

Been doing this a long time, done many of my own pollen throws and I know balls vs flowers.

No hate, bodhi still has my business, I knew the risks with a GG#4 cross.

Sounds like a real bummer man. Any pics?

 

[riumember101]

I had no trouble with Space Monkey but bought mine a couple years ago. I have had one f2 throw nanners at 6 weeks and it was still big time strong but had them nanners.

Also dusted a very stout Monkey with DNA Sleeskunk and no intersex there, just face slap potent and loud.

Seen a lot more herms lately on this thread with 5he Monkey.

Mind if I ask if these were indoor or outdoor? if indoor do you care to share what lights you use?
I'm trying to figure out if it could be caused by a lower light trigger, this topic in general has mixed views but CMH's have shown me why some believe given genetics can herm from low light on bottoms.

 

[Diet Pepsi Terps]

FWIW, I'm 0/3 on Space Monkey females. No question, just males. Maybe the Y-Chromosome is strong in the Monkey... or maybe just sh*t happens. I'll go with #2.

 

[riumember101]

Sounds like a real bummer man. Any pics?

Nah none yet, in the heat of the moment I'm not really thinking about photos.
In saying that big claims deserve evidence, I've kept 2 in which I've removed some lowers to monitor, if they rethrow I'll take some pictures to give a clear idea

 

[The Mantis]

Here's a pic....albeit not a great one lol! This DLA5 #13 harvested after this pic at 68 days doesn't look that special but she's the stinkiest bud I I've ever grown and it's not even close. Going to call this one the Skunk Ass pheno, because I imagine a dirty skunk butt to smell exactly like this.

I have a quarter inch bud left chilling in the small jar and it will stink up a room after you open it. Never seen anything like it. Out of 10 jars on a table, 2 folks grabbed this one as the one that stood out based on smell alone. Pretty cool. Found a couple males with the smell too and will prob f2 them using both.

 

[Diet Pepsi Terps]

Finally finished chopping DLA6 at 66 days:
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As a result of a long series of incorrect decisions, this one got flipped back to 18/6 the day before she showed pistils, and back to 12/12 about 2 weeks later right as she started spitting out new veg growth. The initial 4 tops branched out from all of the bud sites and then started flowering again, resulting in about 400 pea-sized buds. I was worried that it would be a nightmare to trim, but fortunately most of them were too small to bother Hopefully the hash will yield nicely though.

The few buds that were 'keepers' (big enough to bother curing) were pretty nice, though:
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Buds are very dense, which is a first for me. Not sure if I finally got one right or if the genetics are strong enough to overcome my amateur ass. I'm also not sure if the smell has faded through flower or if I'm just going nosedeaf, but I'm not getting much off of it anymore. It's got kind of a funky skunk/hash smell, but nothing that really stands out. I clipped a few testers a couple days ago and smoked them, the taste is pure hash and effects are like smoking a brick wall. I've been jokingly calling it Ambien OG.

Looks like some bomb!

 

[numberfour]

Have you ever tried cloning a plant in flower and reveging them? I remember bodhi back in the day recommended this as an easier way to reveg

Yes in my main tent with larger plants and it does work, make the cut as normal and just keep humidity in check as too much will cause the bud rot. I work it this way as the majority of 1212 from seed plants flower like a totem pole in my set up, out of over 20 odd plants this run just a few had side branching so nothing to clone generally.

Lotta love here for the Space Monkey, got one a week in flower and shes got me thinking about changing CF over very soon. Got some cuts to make a couple of crosses with too.

 

[jdoorn14]

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[jdoorn14]

My ssdd stretched way more than I anticipated. Three tallest on left. View attachment 4354021
I had to turn down the gavita flex down to 600 cause of how close they got. I ended up turning the lights on there on the left side to help the 3 ssdd and the Mango Hashplant from the thinned light. I have this bed in veg going into flowerin that open slot on the left next week.

Just curious how tall those girls were at the flip. Was it a 3x stretch or more? Or was it less but they were fairly tall already?

 

[mathed]

Thank you. This is very helpful.

If you have space monkey, you should run it. Granola Funk and Space Monkey are both very HIGH quality strains, as is More Cowbell

 

[bongrip101]

Have 4 SSDD started outside bout a week ago. All looking pretty uniform

 

[Diet Pepsi Terps]

Granola Funk: After smoking it for the third time, I can definitely say, this is some creative herb. Really creative and talkative. Most creative bud I've smoked in a while, and it's not a one-time deal.

 

[GreenTools]

I'm just not into any of the cookie strains....the high is nice, but not spectacular....flavor from most x's are all over the place....and there is always the constant check for male flowers throughout the cycle.. all hype to me....

 

[jpdnkstr]

Here's some Black Triangle... Again!
I wouldn't say she's completely finished but if I let her go much longer it's really nighty night time. Hope everyone's having a good start to their summer. Keep it green Bodhi growers.

 

[reallybigjesusfreak]

I'm just not into any of the cookie strains....the high is nice, but not spectacular....flavor from most x's are all over the place....and there is always the constant check for male flowers throughout the cycle.. all hype to me....

bUt MuH bAg ApPeAl!!!!!!

 

[hillbill]

I kind of find different types of buds very appealing in or out of a bag. Don’t really get “bag appeal” as great herb exists with fluffy or dense or feather like buds. Bag appeal seems snobby.

 

[hillbill]

Just now plant 5/6 Lemon Hashplant with tails, one dead whitish seed.