Maximising yield in a commercial grow

[SamWE19]

Interested in your opinions.

I have only limited space starting my business in a loft since it’s gone legal. Don’t have any more space.

It’s all been insulated etc.

I currently have a vertical system setup on the larger section of the loft with 90 plants with 1ft2 per plant. And a tiny dwc setup on the other side with 1/4sqft2 per plant.

My initial thought was to try and keep plants as single colas, cram 90 in the small area first and 12/12 from seed. Let them start to bud and then move them for the final 5-6 weeks into the larger area.

Got another 6 weeks to go to see how the yield turns out doing it this way but wonder if anyone has any better ideas for quicker turn arounds or increasing yield when space is limited.

 

[Jaybodankly]

Other than autoflowers 12/12 from seed is the quickest way to go.

 

[Renfro]

You wanna increase productivity stop growing from seed, get some moms and go 12/12 from well rooted clones. Pot and flip. and cut the clones big, like 6 inches long from good tops, root for 20 days in 18/6 or 24/0

 

[SamWE19]

You wanna increase productivity stop growing from seed, get some moms and go 12/12 from well rooted clones. Pot and flip. and cut the clones big, like 6 inches long from good tops, root for 20 days in 18/6 or 24/0

Will that really yield more though? I would need to figure out how to fit enough mother plants for 90 plants every 5 weeks or so and a clone room that is light proof in a tiny amount of space that’s left in the loft

 

[f series]

Will that really yield more though? I would need to figure out how to fit enough mother plants for 90 plants every 5 weeks or so and a clone room that is light proof in a tiny amount of space that’s left in the loft

Shit you can have moms in your living room under t 5s

 

[SamWE19]

Shit you can have moms in your living room under t 5s

Yeah that’s not gonna happen in a family home lol. Wife limits my growing enterprise to loft. I’ll eventually buy some space I guess but for now this is what I’ve got

 

[f series]

Yeah that’s not gonna happen in a family home lol. Wife limits my growing enterprise to loft. I’ll eventually buy some space I guess but for now this is what I’ve got

What's yours grow area dimensions

 

[SamWE19]

What's yours grow area dimensions

Very hard to say due to the sloped roof and limited walk way.

I have a vertical system built in a 2m x 3m area with 2.3m hieght. 90 plants in here with 1sqft each.

Then I have a 140cm x 140cm dwc area with around 60cm of usable hieght after the lights taken into account with 90 plants so 4 plants per sqft then I have tiny bits and pieces of space behind the vertical system in the bits were roof is sloped like from floor to top only 50cm of hieght

 

[Lucky Luke]

Rent a space. Loft is just gunna give u headaches.

You have to go clones for the simple reason they become easy to grow as u have grown them over and over again. Keep Mothers or clone off vegging plants as they go into the flower area.

 

[SamWE19]

Rent a space. Loft is just gunna give u headaches.

You have to go clones for the simple reason they become easy to grow as u have grown them over and over again. Keep Mothers or clone off vegging plants as they go into the flower area.

I don’t have any problems or deficiencies growing with seeds. I wouldn’t want to switch to clones on the basis that they are “easier” to grow.. renting isn’t possible atm.

I’m interested in how clones will produce higher yield than seeds though based on profit per year not per harvest or plant in this instance though.

 

[Lucky Luke]

I don’t have any problems or deficiencies growing with seeds. I wouldn’t want to switch to clones on the basis that they are “easier” to grow..

I’m interested in how clones will produce higher yield than seeds though based on profit per year not per harvest or plant in this instance though.

They produce higher yields because they are mature plants and are easier to grow because u have grown them time and time again. 3rd or 4th run you should have them dialed in.

 

[SamWE19]

If I grow a clone 12/12 from roots am I going to yield 2-3oz per plant? I don’t see it. 12/12 from seed I’ve gotten 2-3oz a plant I’ve never grown 12/12 from rooter cut though so I’m interested in hearing more

 

[Renfro]

Will that really yield more though? I would need to figure out how to fit enough mother plants for 90 plants every 5 weeks or so and a clone room that is light proof in a tiny amount of space that’s left in the loft

Well you get a bigger plant with no veg. You get consistency, so pick your best phenotype for the mom.

 

[Renfro]

If you do 12/12 from clone, pot in 6 inch square pots, flood and drain rules, put 4 plants per sqft. When I did this I got a little over 2 pounds per SE 1kW HPS, every 60 days. Strain matters, you want one that stretches on flip and makes big colas.

 

[Renfro]

Another really good reason to grow from clones is you won't have to cull any hermies.

 

[coreywebster]

Sam are you using LEDs (memory makes you think you are) Or bulbs?
Just wondering how you have your vert set up? Like one wall of plants or two lit up from both sides?

 

[Thundercat]

I would convert the dwc room into a mother/clone room. Then you can cycle clones into the very system and create a perpetual harvest. Each clone might yield a little less then larger seed plants, but you can more easily put more clones in a smaller space more quickly which increases your over all yield.

Growing from clone there is no phenotype differences to worry about, they all grow about the same.

You don’t need huge mother plants to provide enough clone for your system. 90 wouldn’t even be a lot of clones, but if you switched it to a perpetual cycle you could do less clones every few weeks. I’ve spent the last 10 years running a flood and drain system just like that. I kept small mother plants in my veg/clone room and took about 20 clones every 2ish weeks. The mothers usually were super bushy and ready for more clones every time.

 

[macsnax]

I don’t have any problems or deficiencies growing with seeds. I wouldn’t want to switch to clones on the basis that they are “easier” to grow.. renting isn’t possible atm.

I’m interested in how clones will produce higher yield than seeds though based on profit per year not per harvest or plant in this instance though.

How do you expect to get consistent results from seed? There are reasons commercial ops use clones and growing proven cuts is one of them.

 

[SamWE19]

Sam are you using LEDs (memory makes you think you are) Or bulbs?
Just wondering how you have your vert set up? Like one wall of plants or two lit up from both sides?

Yes leds. I have leds stacked vertically back to back with a wall of plants either side

 

[SamWE19]

How do you expect to get consistent results from seed? There are reasons commercial ops use clones and growing proven cuts is one of them.

If I use clones I’m only gonna have room
For one strain. I would need one hell of a strain that people won’t get bored of and yields good