Thoughts on Plant Growth Regulators (PGR)

OzPacks

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hey, so PGR is a big problem in a lot of countries where weed is illegal. because its not regulated, growers tent to opt for nasty PGR chemicals because they increase yield making rock hard heavy buds, but these buds have little to no trichomes, smell, and terpenes. PGR is also a carcinogenic which is linked to liver damage, infertility, and cancer. this defeats the whole point of smoking weed. here are some good articles:

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PGR: The Toxic Chemicals in Your Marijuana - Friendly Aussie Buds

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Understanding the Dangers of Plant Growth Regulators (PGR's) in Cannabis

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lets have a conversation :)
 
Renfro

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Here in the USA there was a very popular one that was pulled from the market. Humboldt Gravity I think it was. After it was pulled by the manufacturer, any existing stock that was out there went through the roof in price. Showing that some dumb asses were still buying it and some greedy fucks were willing to satisfy that market, at an extremely high price.
 
Renfro

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Just as a thought experiment...

I have grown some strains that produce rock hard buds if grown well in hydro using base nutrients, under quality white LED lighting. I mean like amazingly dense nugs where a pound looks like the turket bag is half full when compared to a bag of normal dense weed.

So what would happen if PGR was added to that situation? End up with poison nuggets of lead? :lol:

Alas I digress, if you have access to any PGR products please just throw them away. Making your weed shittier and heavier just so you can give people cancer is no bueno and karma is a bitch.
 
OzPacks

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Renfro said:
Just as a thought experiment...

I have grown some strains that produce rock hard buds if grown well in hydro using base nutrients, under quality white LED lighting. I mean like amazingly dense nugs where a pound looks like the turket bag is half full when compared to a bag of normal dense weed.

So what would happen if PGR was added to that situation? End up with poison nuggets of lead? :lol:

Alas I digress, if you have access to any PGR products please just throw them away. Making your weed shittier and heavier just so you can give people cancer is no bueno and karma is a bitch.
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yeah, PGR is just used by people who r rlly bad at growing and chose quantity over quality . i have a strong hatred towards PGR's

what lights do you use?
 
Kingrow1

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Renfro said:
Ok, but what does that have to do with nasty PGR chemicals as the OP stated? Are you proposing these as a safe alternative bud hardener? If so then please elaborate.
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Plants already work at 100% there is no way to increase that to 110% with chems or the world food shortage would be solved.

The clue is in the word regulator and you need to look closer at the systems they regupate and not assume we have some super magical stuff that makes plants bigger just by pouring on.

Some interesting discussion on brassingosteroids (no idea the actual spelling) and how the slight increase in yeild saw plant defences decrease and more susceptability to disease in the fiekd.

If pgrs simply made giant buds id be using them but nature works at 100% efficiency so that is impractical and hence breeding programs accross the world struggle to get an extra percent increase in yeild in all the worlds food crops :-)
 
Wastei

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All PGR are not created equally and all are not bad if used properly. I use Triacontanol which some classify as a PGR. Because of its natural origin and structure most don't classify it as such. IAA/NAA is cleaner and more effective than any natural rooting compounds.

GA3 has an extremely important
role in sprouting old dorment seeds/genetics. But where do you really draw the line? Kelp and other natural extract contains natural PGR's, are they also "bad"? :eyesmoke:
 
OzPacks

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Wastei said:
All PGR are not created equally and all are not bad if used properly. I use Triacontanol which some classify as a PGR. Because of its natural origin and structure most don't classify it as such. IAA/NAA is cleaner and more effective than any natural rooting compounds.

GA3 has an extremely important
role in sprouting old dorment seeds/genetics. But where do you really draw the line? Kelp and other natural extract contains natural PGR's, are they also "bad"? :eyesmoke:
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thats true, this thread was mainly about the toxic PGR, nasty stuff :neutral:
 
OzPacks

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Kingrow1 said:
Plants already work at 100% there is no way to increase that to 110% with chems or the world food shortage would be solved.

The clue is in the word regulator and you need to look closer at the systems they regupate and not assume we have some super magical stuff that makes plants bigger just by pouring on.

Some interesting discussion on brassingosteroids (no idea the actual spelling) and how the slight increase in yeild saw plant defences decrease and more susceptability to disease in the fiekd.

If pgrs simply made giant buds id be using them but nature works at 100% efficiency so that is impractical and hence breeding programs accross the world struggle to get an extra percent increase in yeild in all the worlds food crops :-)
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exactly
 
Kingrow1

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OzPacks said:
thats true, this thread was mainly about the toxic PGR, nasty stuff :neutral:
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Most pgrs are to stunt not increase yeild as uniformity is big business in such houseplant markets but as to what is used as pgrs for our industry im not really clued up - post a name or chem equivelant and open the subject up for us more :-)
 
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