The Impeachment Of Donald Trump

DIY-HP-LED

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Sorry if this has been covered, it's such a long therad and so acrimonious, I'm not going to read it.

Can someone help me toward an interpretation of Article II, Section Two, Clause 1 of the Constitution, regarding pardon power?

Does this mean that once impeached, he can no longer be pardoned, even in a criminal court, after he is voted out of office? Or does it simply mean that he can not be pardoned from impeachment proceedings, in the case of a resignation subsequent to them, but before his term has expired? Or am I completely misunderstanding this?

If you'd like to answer this, please cite something.
Hi Abandon,
I heard one of the legal experts on the tube say it applied to impeachment only, a future president cannot undo the work of the house and a 2/3 majority in the senate, no pardon after being impeached concerns the impeachment itself, not other crimes. IMHO!

Here is something I found that might be of use.
Top 5 Impeachment Myths
 

abandonconflict

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Hi Abandon,
I heard one of the legal experts on the tube say it applied to impeachment only, a future president cannot undo the work of the house and a 2/3 majority in the senate, no pardon after being impeached concerns the impeachment itself, not other crimes. IMHO!

Here is something I found that might be of use.
Top 5 Impeachment Myths
Yeah I think you're right. Hopefully the next president will not pardon him of the federal charges.

Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt.
 

dandyrandy

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Roger A. Shrubber

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It really doesn't matter.
He is your president.
He will be your president tomorrow.
He will be your president next November, and the November after that, and the November after that and .... and ... and ....

He will forever be in your head, in your soul ... forever .. . your president.
that shit doesn't work on me. he's a foul stain on the presidency, and a grim reminder of how many neanderthals still survive in our society, and that's all he'll ever be to anyone of any intelligence at all.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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So far only two have been impeached, soon to be three.
So, there's been a lot of em that haven't been.
I like some of them too.
Washington, Lincoln, more recently Roosevelt, Kennedy, Reagan ...
but all of them had faults.
You see, they were human ... but they were just what we needed, just in time.
are you implying that what the country needs is a lying piece of shit, who doesn't know a fucking thing about world politics, and is too stupid to listen to his advisors? a president who calls other countries "shit holes" on the record? who isn't even smart enough to censor himself in public? a president who separates children from their parents when they come here seeking help? he tries to justify it by talking about gangs and criminals, but how many 7 year old criminals do you know? that were put into pens with other children, all separated from their families, several of them dying from inattention....that's the kind of president you think the country needs? i think you need to find another country, because that shit don't fly here....
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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are you implying that what the country needs is a lying piece of shit, who doesn't know a fucking thing about world politics, and is too stupid to listen to his advisors? a president who calls other countries "shit holes" on the record? who isn't even smart enough to censor himself in public? a president who separates children from their parents when they come here seeking help? he tries to justify it by talking about gangs and criminals, but how many 7 year old criminals do you know? that were put into pens with other children, all separated from their families, several of them dying from inattention....that's the kind of president you think the country needs? i think you need to find another country, because that shit don't fly here....
a president that is trolled by motherfucking Justin Trudeau?...........how lame is trump that fucking Trudeau is trolling him......¿
 

hanimmal

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https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/23/trump-campaign-compete-against-groups-money-089454

this is great. i love to see stuff like this. anything that takes funding away from trump and the republicans is a good thing. it's about time the con men started to feed on each other.
Got to love American capitalism at times, when our people smell a scam it is not long before everyone starts to use it to get paid. Which exposes it as a scam when the entire house of cards collapses.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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'Thug,' 'Threat': Endorsing Impeachment, Top Newspapers Unload On Trump | MSNBC
Hours before the historic Trump impeachment vote in Congress, New York Times columnist Tom Friedman joins Ari Melber to talk about the Times’ stinging editorial titled “Impeach,” which outlines a “simple and damning” case against Trump. Melber reports on how top newspapers are supporting impeachment, a journalistic development that shows grave concerns about Trump’s fitness for office – and a departure from Clinton’s impeachment, where newspapers condemned Bill Clinton’s conduct, but largely opposed the impeachment. Aired on 12/23/19.
 

HashBucket

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are you implying that what the country needs is a lying piece of shit, who doesn't know a fucking thing about world politics, and is too stupid to listen to his advisors? a president who calls other countries "shit holes" on the record? who isn't even smart enough to censor himself in public? a president who separates children from their parents when they come here seeking help? he tries to justify it by talking about gangs and criminals, but how many 7 year old criminals do you know? that were put into pens with other children, all separated from their families, several of them dying from inattention....that's the kind of president you think the country needs? i think you need to find another country, because that shit don't fly here....
I assume you're talking about trump?
Actually I didn't say anything about trump in this post.
I talked about Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, Kennedy, a couple others.
We were talking about presidents we like that had NOT been impeached.
Read it again.
 

Grandpapy

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I assume you're talking about trump?
Actually I didn't say anything about trump in this post.
I talked about Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, Kennedy, a couple others.
We were talking about presidents we like that had NOT been impeached.
Read it again.
Even you have lost respect for trump.

Admit it. I don't give him the effort of Capitalization either. It's OK, it comes naturally with the body's desire for a long life.
 

Budzbuddha

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BAT SHIT Trump Lashes Out at Windmills Again, Says They 'Will Kill Many Bald Eagles' ...

President Donald “ Dementia “ Trump on Saturday renewed his long standing feud against windmills during a speech to the conservative Turning Point USA conference on Saturday evening in West Palm Beach, Florida.

"I never understood wind," Trump said while criticizing the Green New Deal. "I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody. I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous—if you are into this—tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?"

The president then attacked windmills for being "noisy," before declaring that they also "kill the birds." says the “ stable retard “.

"The world is tiny compared to the universe," he continued. "So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right spewing, whether it is China or Germany, is going into the air.".....

"A windmill will kill many bald eagles," Trump added. "After a certain number, they make you turn the windmill off, that is true. By the way, they make you turn it off. And yet, if you killed one, they put you in jail. That is OK. But why is it OK for windmills to destroy the bird population?"

WAIT .... WTF ????

"You want to see a bird graveyard, go under a windmill someday. You will see more dead birds than you've ever seen in your life."

It is not the first time Trump has railed against windmills. The president once claimed that the structure that turns wind power into rotational energy causes cancer and devalues the price of homes. Speaking at a National Republication Committee dinner in April, Trump said "if you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value, and they say the noise causes cancer."

I expect the guys in the white coats with butterfly nets just waiting to throw this Psychotic piece of shit into a double layered straitjacket....

Later in August, Trump once again rebuked "big windmills" at a petrochemical complex in western Pennsylvania, saying they "destroy everybody's property values [and] kill all the birds."

The president also claimed that windmills are extremely unreliable: "All of a sudden, it stops; the wind and the televisions go off. And your wives and husbands say, 'Darling, I want to watch Donald Trump on television tonight. But the wind stopped blowing and I can't watch. There's no electricity in the house, darling.'"


Although Trump calls them "windmills," he is actually referring to "wind turbines." After he condemned wind farms during this year's American Wind Week, Tom Kiernan, chief executive of the American Wind Energy Association, told the Washington Post that "the wind industry is powering the economy in rural America."

"It's hard to fully understand the motivation of the president," Kiernan added.

Trump’s bird nest toupee must be epoxied on way too tight ... Boot the Buffoon out !
 

HashBucket

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Even you have lost respect for trump.

Admit it. I don't give him the effort of Capitalization either. It's OK, it comes naturally with the body's desire for a long life.
I've never denied it.
He has always made me shake my head. Sometimes in amazement, sometimes in embarrassment.
But ... who else did I have to vote for?
And, who should I vote for next?
 
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