What yield do you pull from a 4x4 ?????

Yesyes3000

Yesyes3000

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Hello all !
Me and a friend are looking at different t options for tents and thinking of useing 4x4 tents in different rooms. Be that as it may .... could people share what they have gotten for yields from 4x4 ? Please include what type of light, how many plants, and growing medium please !!! Thank you !

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If you’ve only grown in a 3x3 or 5x5, those outcomes are welcome also !!! Thanks a bunch

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Wastei

Wastei

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Just above 3 lbs or 52oz with 1200w HPS/MH in DWC. I like to develop a really nice root structure before entering flower. I train and scrog all of my girls.

I most often run 4 plants and I like to veg for a long time. When you have some successful runs and developed some understanding through experience you should look into studying how to use safe PGR's and their role in agriculture.
 
myke

myke

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Wastei said:
Just above 3 lbs or 52oz with 1200w HPS/MH in DWC. I like to develop a really nice root structure before entering flower. I train and scrog all of my girls.

I most often run 4 plants and I like to veg for a long time. When you have some successful runs and developed some understanding through experience you should look into studying how to use safe PGR's and their role in agriculture.
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1200 watts in a 4x4! I need that.Its fricken cold outside.
 
Keesje

Keesje

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There are so many options, that you first have to set the parameters.
What do you want to achieve?
How much do you want to spend?
How much work are you willing to do?
And several other questions that need answers first.

If someone says: "I get 600 grams with a 600 Watt lamp" is that a great yield?
Yes, when it was with a 600 Watt HPS, 4 plants and ready in a total of 9 weeks.
No, when it was with a 600 Watt expensive led light, 16 plants and it took a total of 16 weeks.
 
Yesyes3000

Yesyes3000

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Wastei said:
Just above 3 lbs or 52oz with 1200w HPS/MH in DWC. I like to develop a really nice root structure before entering flower. I train and scrog all of my girls.

I most often run 4 plants and I like to veg for a long time. When you have some successful runs and developed some understanding through experience you should look into studying how to use safe PGR's and their role in agriculture.
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Is this in a a 4x4 ? Do you have any pics of your setup ?
 
Keesje

Keesje

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ChiefRunningPhist said:
In a 4×4, 2 at tops. 1.0 is pretty regular for a 4×4, 1.5+ if you're dialed in.
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Is '2' pounds?

Because if that is pounds, then this number is not accurate.
I know a number of people who had 1 kilo (2.2 lbs) in it, with a 1.000 Watt HPS.
Also know people who had almost 1200 grams (2.6 lbs) with state of the art led in a tent of 120x120 (which is 4 x 4)

But again: It depends on so many factors.
Time, strain, enviroment, is it a basement or is it an atic, is it in Florida or in Alaska, so many things to consider.

Still wondering what the TS wants to do with the info.
Better first start growing in a small size. Learn to grow. Learn how much you hate or love soil, hydro, cocos, whatever.
Learn if you like to have a lot of work in the beginning, or do you like to have little work, but almost every day?
Is there water enough where you want to grow? can you dump water easily? Nosey neighbours?
 
ChiefRunningPhist

ChiefRunningPhist

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Keesje said:
Is '2' pounds?

Because if that is pounds, then this number is not accurate.
I know a number of people who had 1 kilo (2.2 lbs) in it, with a 1.000 Watt HPS.
Also know people who had almost 1200 grams (2.6 lbs) with state of the art led in a tent of 120x120 (which is 4 x 4)

But again: It depends on so many factors.
Time, strain, enviroment, is it a basement or is it an atic, is it in Florida or in Alaska, so many things to consider.

Still wondering what the TS wants to do with the info.
Better first start growing in a small size. Learn to grow. Learn how much you hate or love soil, hydro, cocos, whatever.
Learn if you like to have a lot of work in the beginning, or do you like to have little work, but almost every day?
Is there water enough where you want to grow? can you dump water easily? Nosey neighbours?
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Well this ain't my first picnic, and 2+ just isn't common at all. I read and hear all sorts of crazy numbers. It doesn't matter your style or light, you're just limited by the space. It might be possible, but not much over 2, and not every time but maybe an outlier, and I've never seen it lol..

Perhaps if you've double rowed or vertically stacked so you're effectively growing over 32ft2 of canopy, but with a conventional 16ft2, you're going to be right around 1.5 (once dialed in), sometimes close to 2.

EDIT:
I agree that strain & veg time play a roll. For a 4'×4'×7' tent you can't veg for too long because you're limited in height (7' - hang height = ?).
 
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Keesje

Keesje

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I do agree that most people with a 600 Watt HPS will have a hard time getting to 2 lbs.

With a 1.000 Watt HPS getting 2.2 lbs is not extremely hard. Also on the 'limited' space 4x4.
With a 600 Watt HPS getting 600 grams (1.3 lbs) in a tent of 100 x 100 cm (3.3 x 3.3) is very common for experienced growers.
In a normal time frame.

But that was my whole point: It all depends on circumstances and time and equipment.
A lot of people are bragging about how much they yield, but they don't give you time, surface, or electricity spend.
I can grow 1 lbs under a 100 Watt HPS if you just give me enough time to veg. Perhaps it will also look awful with lots of air in the tops.

Where I used to live a store had this 1 huge plant under a 600 Watt in about that size. It was in the store forever. At one point they had to cut it.
The yield was enormous. But that 1 plant had a veg time of many months, and the branches were supported with nets, ropes, etc.
Huge yield, so a succes. But if you look at it from an economical point of view, it was very unsuccessful.
 
ChiefRunningPhist

ChiefRunningPhist

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Keesje said:
I do agree that most people with a 600 Watt HPS will have a hard time getting to 2 lbs.

With a 1.000 Watt HPS getting 2.2 lbs is not extremely hard. Also on the 'limited' space 4x4.
With a 600 Watt HPS getting 600 grams (1.3 lbs) in a tent of 100 x 100 cm (3.3 x 3.3) is very common for experienced growers.
In a normal time frame.

But that was my whole point: It all depends on circumstances and time and equipment.
A lot of people are bragging about how much they yield, but they don't give you time, surface, or electricity spend.
I can grow 1 lbs under a 100 Watt HPS if you just give me enough time to veg. Perhaps it will also look awful with lots of air in the tops.

Where I used to live a store had this 1 huge plant under a 600 Watt in about that size. It was in the store forever. At one point they had to cut it.
The yield was enormous. But that 1 plant had a veg time of many months, and the branches were supported with nets, ropes, etc.
Huge yield, so a succes. But if you look at it from an economical point of view, it was very unsuccessful.
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Lol no. I grew with 1000W but they are too much for a 7' tall 4'×4'. 1lb from 100W 2.0μmol/J light not optimized for plant growth? I don't really believe anything you're saying. I'm an experienced grower. Been doing this for awhile, outside, indoor, HID, Fluoro, LED, soil, coco, flood table, DWC, you name it. After a point it doesn't matter how much light, it's just determined by how much plant can possibly fit into an area.
 
Keesje

Keesje

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ChiefRunningPhist said:
Lol no. I grew with 1000W but they are too much for a 7' tall 4'×4'. 1lb from 100W 2.0μmol/J light not optimized for plant growth? I don't really believe anything you're saying. I'm an experienced grower. Been doing this for awhile, outside, indoor, HID, Fluoro, LED, soil, coco, flood table, DWC, you name it. After a point it doesn't matter how much light, it's just determined by how much plant can possibly fit into an area.
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You don't have to believe me.
I do not believe you: You are saying that you are an experienced grower and you don't think yield of the ones in mentioned are possible?
Check out @Renfro 's grows for example.
And why would it not be possible with a 100 Watt HPS lamp to get a pound? If you veg for a long time, top your plant several times, scrog, and just keep the light on it long enough... at a certain point there will be a yield of a pound. It probably will look not the best with horrible foxtails, and the veg time will be extremely long, but it will work.
But if you don't think it is possible... also ok. It is a free world.
 
Sfrigon 1

Sfrigon 1

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Keesje said:
You don't have to believe me.
I do not believe you: You are saying that you are an experienced grower and you don't think yield of the ones in mentioned are possible?
Check out @Renfro 's grows for example.
And why would it not be possible with a 100 Watt HPS lamp to get a pound? If you veg for a long time, top your plant several times, scrog, and just keep the light on it long enough... at a certain point there will be a yield of a pound. It probably will look not the best with horrible foxtails, and the veg time will be extremely long, but it will work.
But if you don't think it is possible... also ok. It is a free world.
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Oh man that would be really difficult. Your limits on par would prob be the biggest deciding factor here. I'm sorry to be a downer but it's not possible.
 
ChiefRunningPhist

ChiefRunningPhist

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Keesje said:
You don't have to believe me.
I do not believe you: You are saying that you are an experienced grower and you don't think yield of the ones in mentioned are possible?
Check out @Renfro 's grows for example.
And why would it not be possible with a 100 Watt HPS lamp to get a pound? If you veg for a long time, top your plant several times, scrog, and just keep the light on it long enough... at a certain point there will be a yield of a pound. It probably will look not the best with horrible foxtails, and the veg time will be extremely long, but it will work.
But if you don't think it is possible... also ok. It is a free world.
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Lol good luck getting 1lb from 100W, it doesn't matter how long you grow for, not guna happen. I highly doubt any numbers over 1.75lbs in a 4×4×7 without evidence. Definitely not the norm or to be used to calculate yield from imo.
 
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