The Impeachment Of Donald Trump

Unclebaldrick

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Unfortunately, I doubt it. My bet is on the senate acquitting him, and confirming to the entire world that the United States is nothing but a corruption permitting, illogical, backwards-thinking, alienating, self-serving embarrassment who act based on trying to hold onto the votes of the poorly-educated and brainwashed side of the voting populace without any ethical or moral compass whatsoever.

After this, the last remaining vestige of trust others have of the US will be eradicated entirely.
Nah, the elections are coming and there are going to be a whole lot of Senators voting against witnesses and then acquitting him.

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https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/senate-race-democrats-2020/
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Unfortunately, I doubt it. My bet is on the senate acquitting him, and confirming to the entire world that the United States is nothing but a corruption permitting, illogical, backwards-thinking, alienating, self-serving embarrassment who act based on trying to hold onto the votes of the poorly-educated and brainwashed side of the voting populace without any ethical or moral compass whatsoever.

After this, the last remaining vestige of trust others have of the US will be eradicated entirely.
You can’t doubt all you want, Trump will be removed from office. Your very negative, I prefer distance myself from people like you. The United States of America will prevail through all this motherfucker. take your Canadian flag and shove it up your ass.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Unfortunately, I doubt it. My bet is on the senate acquitting him, and confirming to the entire world that the United States is nothing but a corruption permitting, illogical, backwards-thinking, alienating, self-serving embarrassment who act based on trying to hold onto the votes of the poorly-educated and brainwashed side of the voting populace without any ethical or moral compass whatsoever.

After this, the last remaining vestige of trust others have of the US will be eradicated entirely.
There's an election in november, I'd reserve judgement until then... Look at the news and the polls, if the republican senate acquits Trump it will probably be the end of the GOP. Remember we had Rob Ford and Harper in Canada, stupid knows no borders!

How do you think dictators and tyrants gain power? In circumstances such as this. How does a free people fight back? Like this, look at the posts on the thread.
 
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hanimmal

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I wish someone could explain why the president thinks Ukraine Corruption is more of a threat then the Corruption in Mexico and why he is ignoring it?

The numbers don't show it.
https://tradingeconomics.com/ukraine/corruption-rank
I believe it was because Putin had to set up multiple trolls against the top Democratic candidates starting in at least 2013 when he declared war by invading Crimea.

At that time Biden was a obvious choice as well as Clinton. Since Putin had criminals installed in Ukraine at the time, he had Biden's kid hired onto some oil company's board to use as a troll against him. It was forgotten about until Biden announced on April 25th.

Before that Trump was in a panic about Biden crushing him.
https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/
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Unclebaldrick

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How do you think dictators and tyrants gain power?
Assholes who don't get their way before an election waste their vote in the hope that things will go so badly that a spontaneous revolt will occur and grant them the worker's paradise that only a small percentage of the public seem to want. This allows an obviously evil politician to gain power. That politician then consolidates power and throws the first group in camps to be gassed.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If the senate acquits Trump it's not over by a long shot! The house hearings will continue to grind Trump and the GOP senate into dust. There will be witnesses, documents, Trump's taxes and financial dealings made public and testified to by court order, all before the election. Mitch and the GOP senate must realize this, it will hurt all of those running and lead to the defeat of others, even in the south, Mitch might lose his majority, not to mention his seat over an acquittal.

I wonder what SCOTUS Justice John Roberts reaction would be to an acquittal, after sitting through the entire case? I wonder if it would affect the future actions of the court(s) and the of the SCOTUS...
 
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spek9

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If the senate acquits Trump it's not over by a long shot! The house hearings will continue to grind Trump and the GOP senate into dust. There will be witnesses, documents, Trump's taxes and financial dealings made public and testified to by court order, all before the election. Mitch and the GOP senate must realize this, it will hurt all of those running and lead to the defeat of others, even in the south, Mitch might lose his majority, not to mention his seat over an acquittal.

I wonder what John Roberts reaction would be to an acquittal, after sitting through the entire case? I wonder if it would affect the future actions of the court(s) and the of the SCOTUS...
Will the votes be sealed, or will each vote be attached to a senator's name?

I would suspect the lot of them are already putting together their contingency PR campaigns regardless of what the outcome is.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Will the votes be sealed, or will each vote be attached to a senator's name?

I would suspect the lot of them are already putting together their contingency PR campaigns regardless of what the outcome is.
Recorded vote.

Trump ain't going nowhere in 2020. And if he does lose the election, count on the Republicans to do there best to suddenly hamstring the powers of the Presidency similar to the way Wisconsin's outgoing legislature did when a Democratic governor got elected. Thank god for the Blue Wave of 2018.

They know what is coming if that happens. Every single one of their sacred cows will be gored. This is their last gasp. I frankly think that the election interference in 2016 will be considered mild compared to what is coming our way. Bad things are coming. When or if they lose, they will do everything in their power to undermine the result, even if it results in widespread bloodshed. This is for all the marbles. We may look back at Trump in 20 years and consider him moderate compared to what will come.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Will the votes be sealed, or will each vote be attached to a senator's name?

I would suspect the lot of them are already putting together their contingency PR campaigns regardless of what the outcome is.
I believe the voting procedure is entirely up to a simple majority in the senate and they can make it a secret session for deliberations too. If they wished they could have a secret ballot like an election and hide the votes from each other. If they do something like this Donald is in deep trouble, and it just takes a simple 50+1 majority to do it. If Mitch is gonna fuck Donald he's gotta be creative and make it look good for the base and even or Donald himself, for the sake of those running this year. One can only hope, the damage to the GOP has been largely done anyway, so disposing of Donald might be a good thing for all concerned.
 
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Unclebaldrick

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I believe the voting procedure is entirely up to a simple majority in the senate and they can make it a secret session for deliberations too. If they wished they could have a secret ballot like an election and hide the votes from each other. If they do something like this Donald is in deep trouble, and it just takes a simple 50+1 majority to do it. If Mitch is gonna fuck Donald he's gotta be creative and make it look good for the base and even Donald for himself, for the sake of those running this year. One can only hope, the damage to the GOP has been largely done anyway, so disposing of Donald might be a good thing for all concerned.
Hmm, you are right. It could be secret. But that would be a hell of a risk that I don't think they would take. It would deprive the President of the ability to punish those who voted against him - which is a pretty big stick. Because of that, Senators might be able to vote their conscience, which I know Trump and McConnell don't want. Believe it or not, there are probably a few Republicans left that have one.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Recorded vote.
Is that in the rules Baldrick? I thought most things were up to a majority of the senate a recorded vote on the record changes things for sure! Come to think about it, you'd have to record the vote to impeach a POTUS!

I guess they are gonna ride this fucker into the ground on fire then, it'll lead to the extinction of the elephants as Donald leads them to disaster. There will be no controlling Donald if he gets off on this and Hell to pay come election time, even if the fucker loses. Only a big win by the democrats can save ya a lot of grief, a close election would be cheated or down right stolen, Donald still has Putin in his corner.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Is that in the rules Baldrick? I thought most things were up to a majority of the senate a recorded vote on the record changes things for sure! Come to think about it, you'd have to record the vote to impeach a POTUS!

I guess they are gonna ride this fucker into the ground on fire then, it'll lead to the extinction of the elephants as Donald leads them to disaster. There will be no controlling Donald if he gets off on this and Hell to pay come election time, even if the fucker loses. Only a big win by the democrats can save ya a lot of grief, a close election would be cheated or down right stolen, Donald still has Putin in his corner.
Nope. See my prior post. I was wrong.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Hmm, you are right. It could be secret. But that would be a hell of a risk that I don't think they would take. It would deprive the President of the ability to punish those who voted against him - which is a pretty big stick. Because of that, Senators might be able to vote their conscience, which I know Trump and McConnell don't want. Believe it or not, there are probably a few Republicans left that have one.
If Donald is removed he'd be muzzled by a judge with in a couple of weeks, he's got a mountain of indictments pending. Pence wouldn't want that loose cannon rolling around and ratting everybody out on twitter! Come to think about it, neither would Bill Barr, who knows what Donald might tweet with a sore asshole!:D Donald would quickly get the Roger Stone treatment by a judge once he's charged and that won't be long.
 

Unclebaldrick

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If Donald is removed he'd be muzzled by a judge with in a couple of weeks, he's got a mountain of indictments pending. Pence wouldn't want that loose cannon rolling around and ratting everybody out on twitter! Come to think about it, neither would Bill Barr, who knows what Donald might tweet with a sore asshole!:D Donald would quickly get the Roger Stone treatment by a judge one he's charged and that won't be long.
I don't think that the odds of Donald being removed by the Senate are even measurable. For me, the question is all about what happens if he doesn't get re-elected or (shudder) if he does. I still think the last possibility is quite possible, even probable. That orange bitch could lose the popular vote by up to 6% and still win the EC.
 

MidwestGorilla219

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The Senate is not going to remove Trump, they need 67 votes and from what I understand only 4 gop senators are in districts that may cost them in November if they vote no. Most gop senators actually believe they will be voted out of office if they vote to impeach Trump. The only chance of getting rid of Trump is in November. Some people in this thread are not living in reality.
 
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