The Impeachment Of Donald Trump

hanimmal

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This idiot has no idea how trade works.....

'nobody talks about that' is his favorite string of words. I wish someone would say it is because what you are saying is bullshit that doesn't make any sense.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Fox & Friends’ Desperately Tries to End Unhinged Giuliani Interview, Repeatedly Fails
RAMBLE ON
“Rudy, we’re done,” host Steve Doocy begged at one point.

President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani showed up on the president’s favorite morning program on Friday—and apparently didn’t want to leave.

A day after Giuliani claimed on Twitter that he was about to go public with evidence that will reveal the “Biden Family Enterprise made millions by selling public office” when Joe Biden was vice president, the former New York City mayor sat down on Fox & Friends’ curvy couch for what can generously be described as an unhinged, rambling, off-the-rails performance.
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spek9

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Fox & Friends’ Desperately Tries to End Unhinged Giuliani Interview, Repeatedly Fails
RAMBLE ON
“Rudy, we’re done,” host Steve Doocy begged at one point.

President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani showed up on the president’s favorite morning program on Friday—and apparently didn’t want to leave.

A day after Giuliani claimed on Twitter that he was about to go public with evidence that will reveal the “Biden Family Enterprise made millions by selling public office” when Joe Biden was vice president, the former New York City mayor sat down on Fox & Friends’ curvy couch for what can generously be described as an unhinged, rambling, off-the-rails performance.
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Rudy is losing it. Trying unsuccessfully to deflect. I'm sure he knows he's already got one foot under the bus.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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New audio and video undermine President Trump's claim about Lev Parnas

A nearly 90-minute recording released of President Donald Trump at a 2018 dinner with indicted businessmen he has claimed he doesn't know includes Trump speaking animatedly about removing the US ambassador to Ukraine.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Georgia and perhaps Texas all ya need are a majority in the EC and Trump hasn't picked up any support since 2016, in fact millions more are gonna vote against him and drag GOP senators down too. Mitch McConnell has a 29% approval rating in back home in TN. There are also gonna be millions of people (the young mostly ) who don't normally vote, who are gonna vote in 2020, Trump has motivated folks! Many GOP supporters might stay home this time around too and the investigations are ongoing as well. I figure a large majority of the public is and will be aroused by all this bullshit and will speak with a loud voice in november.
North Carolina, don't blame Tn for McConnell, we have enough to deal with with Bill Lee
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Lev has got more recordings and he or the house will feed them to the press overtime to turn the heat up on Donald.
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Parnas' attorney: There are more Trump recordings
CNN's Anderson Cooper speaks with Lev Parnas' attorney, Joseph Bondy, about the recently released recording of President Donald Trump at a 2018 dinner with Parnas and Igor Fruman.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Lev has got more recordings and he or the house will feed them to the press overtime to turn the heat up on Donald.
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Parnas' attorney: There are more Trump recordings
CNN's Anderson Cooper speaks with Lev Parnas' attorney, Joseph Bondy, about the recently released recording of President Donald Trump at a 2018 dinner with Parnas and Igor Fruman.
It doesn't matter.

Remember that time Obama said that if we liked our doctor we could keep our doctor, and if we liked our health plan, we could keep our health plan? It was only true for about 80% of us, so Trump intentionally lying 16,000+ times about both mundane and very important things like crimes he has committed against the United States is ok.

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DIY-HP-LED

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It doesn't matter.

Remember that time Obama said that if we liked our doctor we could keep our doctor, and if we liked our health plan, we could keep our health plan? It was only true for about 80% of us, so Trump intentionally lying 16,000+ times about both mundane and very important things like crimes he has committed against the United States is ok.

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It might not make a difference to the base, but it puts heat on the GOP senate, adds to the mountain of evidence and that will make a difference in november when the ultimate jury decides this matter. Anything that triggers a secret vote in the senate is very bad for Donald, Mitch wants to fuck him I can feel it in my bones, he just needs to figure out a way. This is a preview of Boltons testimony in the house too, so if the senate ignores it, it will come out later and closer to the election in the house. Even if the republicans acquit Trump the democrats will keep the story alive all spring and summer, at the top of the news with shit like Boltons testimony, documents and taxes.

This is the perfect storm for the GOP and Mich, they are fucked with the electorate if they acquit and accountable for Trump's future crazy and criminal acts until the election. The base might win them primaries, but the general election and public elect them and when election day rolls around it's not gonna look good for the republicans in most places. I figure the damage has been done to the GOP with the general electorate whether they acquit or remove Trump, but if Trump is leading them into 2020 it will be a disaster for the republicans.
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Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Inquiries He Sought, Bolton Book Says
Drafts of the book outline the potential testimony of the
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/trump-bolton-book-ukraine.html

WASHINGTON — President Trump told his national security adviser in August that he wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens, according to an unpublished manuscript by the former adviser, John R. Bolton.

The president’s statement as described by Mr. Bolton could undercut a key element of his impeachment defense: that the holdup in aid was separate from Mr. Trump’s requests that Ukraine announce investigations into his perceived enemies, including former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, who had worked for a Ukrainian energy firm while his father was in office.

Mr. Bolton’s explosive account of the matter at the center of Mr. Trump’s impeachment trial, the third in American history, was included in drafts of a manuscript he has circulated in recent weeks to close associates. He also sent a draft to the White House for a standard review process for some current and former administration officials who write books.

Multiple people described Mr. Bolton’s account of the Ukraine affair.

The book presents an outline of what Mr. Bolton might testify to if he is called as a witness in the Senate impeachment trial, the people said. The White House could use the pre-publication review process, which has no set time frame, to delay or even kill the book’s publication or omit key passages.

Over dozens of pages, Mr. Bolton described how the Ukraine affair unfolded over several months until he departed the White House in September. He described not only the president’s private disparagement of Ukraine but also new details about senior cabinet officials who have publicly tried to sidestep involvement.
For example, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo acknowledged privately that there was no basis to claims by the president’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani that the ambassador to Ukraine was corrupt and believed Mr. Giuliani may have been acting on behalf of other clients, Mr. Bolton wrote.
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DIY-HP-LED

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Another nervous witness, or perhaps co conspirator who could be looking at prison time and knows it. Another guy with a lot riding on the outcome of the 2020 election, he was in the "loop" and that loop turned into a noose. When Pompeo goes down there won't be too many tears shed at Foggy Bottom after he failed to protect an ambassador and was involved in corruption and treason.
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Emails support NPR host after Pompeo calls her a liar in setting up contentious interview

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says an NPR host lied in setting up an interview with him on Friday, but email records support the journalist’s account of how the contentious exchange came to be.
The emails, obtained by The Washington Post, indicate that Pompeo’s staff was aware that NPR’s Mary Louise Kelly would ask Pompeo about several topics in the interview and raised no objections, contrary to Pompeo’s characterization.
In an extraordinary statement issued on State Department letterhead on Saturday, Pompeo blasted Kelly for repeatedly asking him why he refused to express support for the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch. Kelly said afterward Pompeo berated her using profanity and challenged her to locate Ukraine on an unmarked map, which Kelly said she did.

“NPR reporter Mary Louise Kelly lied to me, twice,” Pompeo said in his statement. “First, last month, in setting up our interview and, then again yesterday, in agreeing to have our post-interview conversation off the record. It is shameful that this reporter chose to violate the basic rules of journalism and decency.”

Pompeo’s statement implied that Kelly had agreed before the interview to confine her questions to developments in Iran and that he would not be asked about other subjects. He made the same claim during the interview but Kelly pushed back, telling him she’d worked out a different arrangement with his staff.
But emails between Kelly and Pompeo’s press aide, Katie Martin, a day before the interview show that there was no such agreement and that Kelly made clear her intention to question Pompeo about other topics.

“Just wanted to touch base that we still intend to keep the interview to Iran tomorrow,” Martin wrote. “Know you just got back from Tehran so we would like to stick to Iran as the topic as opposed to jumping around. Is that something we can agree to?”
Kelly responded, “I am indeed just back from Tehran and plan to start there. Also Ukraine. And who knows what the news gods will serve up overnight. I never agree to take anything off the table.”

Martin replied, “Totally understand you want to ask other topics but just hoping . . . we can stick to that topic for a healthy portion of the interview . . . Wouldn’t want to spend the interview on questions he’s answered many times for the last several months.”

Kelly: “My plan is to start with Iran and, yes, to spend a healthy portion of the interview there. Iran has been my focus of late as well. And yes — I also would not want to waste time on questions he’s answered many times in recent months.”
Martin, whose official State Department title is deputy assistant secretary for the Bureau of Global Public Affairs, did not respond to a request for comment. Kelly declined to comment.
Kelly, a veteran journalist who is a co-host of NPR’s signature news program, “All Things Considered,” said on the program on Friday that neither Pompeo nor his aides made any request that his post-interview comments be kept off the record. She said she would not have agreed to such terms if they had.
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hanimmal

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It might not make a difference to the base, but it puts heat on the GOP senate, adds to the mountain of evidence and that will make a difference in november when the ultimate jury decides this matter. Anything that triggers a secret vote in the senate is very bad for Donald, Mitch wants to fuck him I can feel it in my bones, he just needs to figure out a way. This is a preview of Boltons testimony in the house too, so if the senate ignores it, it will come out later and closer to the election in the house. Even if the republicans acquit Trump the democrats will keep the story alive all spring and summer, at the top of the news with shit like Boltons testimony, documents and taxes.

This is the perfect storm for the GOP and Mich, they are fucked with the electorate if they acquit and accountable for Trump's future crazy and criminal acts until the election. The base might win them primaries, but the general election and public elect them and when election day rolls around it's not gonna look good for the republicans in most places. I figure the damage has been done to the GOP with the general electorate whether they acquit or remove Trump, but if Trump is leading them into 2020 it will be a disaster for the republicans.
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Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Inquiries He Sought, Bolton Book Says
Drafts of the book outline the potential testimony of the
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/trump-bolton-book-ukraine.html

WASHINGTON — President Trump told his national security adviser in August that he wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens, according to an unpublished manuscript by the former adviser, John R. Bolton.

The president’s statement as described by Mr. Bolton could undercut a key element of his impeachment defense: that the holdup in aid was separate from Mr. Trump’s requests that Ukraine announce investigations into his perceived enemies, including former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, who had worked for a Ukrainian energy firm while his father was in office.

Mr. Bolton’s explosive account of the matter at the center of Mr. Trump’s impeachment trial, the third in American history, was included in drafts of a manuscript he has circulated in recent weeks to close associates. He also sent a draft to the White House for a standard review process for some current and former administration officials who write books.

Multiple people described Mr. Bolton’s account of the Ukraine affair.

The book presents an outline of what Mr. Bolton might testify to if he is called as a witness in the Senate impeachment trial, the people said. The White House could use the pre-publication review process, which has no set time frame, to delay or even kill the book’s publication or omit key passages.

Over dozens of pages, Mr. Bolton described how the Ukraine affair unfolded over several months until he departed the White House in September. He described not only the president’s private disparagement of Ukraine but also new details about senior cabinet officials who have publicly tried to sidestep involvement.
For example, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo acknowledged privately that there was no basis to claims by the president’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani that the ambassador to Ukraine was corrupt and believed Mr. Giuliani may have been acting on behalf of other clients, Mr. Bolton wrote.
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I dont trust this 'leak' because it was another obvious plant from the white house to this guy:
Michael Schmidt.

I wish I could get behind the paywall of the NY times to look up the stories of his I always thought were plants, but I have built up a strong distrust of the reasons why he gets the leaks he has.

I really would hate to see anything happen to the 'protecting sources' thing, so I don't believe it would be right to pressure this guy about it. But I do think he should get some media scrutiny about what he has written by other journalists.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I dont trust this 'leak' because it was another obvious plant from the white house to this guy:
Michael Schmidt.

I wish I could get behind the paywall of the NY times to look up the stories of his I always thought were plants, but I have built up a strong distrust of the reasons why he gets the leaks he has.

I really would hate to see anything happen to the 'protecting sources' thing, so I don't believe it would be right to pressure this guy about it. But I do think he should get some media scrutiny about what he has written by other journalists.
It was leaked by the NSC part of the WH and a savvy, reputable, experienced reporter broke the story, the WH leaks like a sieve remember, Donald has many enemies there too. It puts a lot of heat on Pompeo, Barr, Mulveny and others who are mentioned to testify before the senate and if not there, the house this spring and summer. Donald publicly said what Bolton said wasn't true and that makes it contestable in the impeachment trial and more likely to draw testimony. This is not a good thing for Donald and very bad timing too, whoever leaked it didn't have Trump's interests in mind!
 

hanimmal

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It was leaked by the NSC part of the WH and a savvy, reputable, experienced reporter broke the story, the WH leaks like a sieve remember, Donald has many enemies there too. It puts a lot of heat on Pompeo, Barr, Mulveny and others who are mentioned to testify before the senate and if not there, the house this spring and summer. Donald publicly said what Bolton said wasn't true and that makes it contestable in the impeachment trial and more likely to draw testimony.
Or it breaks the news on Trump's terms being leaked by him at a time of Trump's choosing because he knows this guy will publish it. I may be wrong, and at this time I am not going to pay for a NY times subscription so can't look up the 'leaked' stories he has done to provide evidence of my point.

I haven't seen where it was said that it was the "NSC" that leaked it, I just heard that very few people in the top of the White House had access to the book, so unless someone big gets fired today by Trump, Trump leaked it on purpose.

But in the mean time, I find this dude suspect.


The NY Times has done some suspect stories in the last few years pushing the Russian/Trump propaganda. And buried it when they turned out wrong.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Or it breaks the news on Trump's terms being leaked by him at a time of Trump's choosing because he knows this guy will publish it. I may be wrong, and at this time I am not going to pay for a NY times subscription so can't look up the 'leaked' stories he has done to provide evidence of my point.

I haven't seen where it was said that it was the "NSC" that leaked it, I just heard that very few people in the top of the White House had access to the book, so unless someone big gets fired today by Trump, Trump leaked it on purpose.

But in the mean time, I find this dude suspect.


The NY Times has done some suspect stories in the last few years pushing the Russian/Trump propaganda. And buried it when they turned out wrong.
He is the NYT national security WH reporter and has contacts there, Bolton would have had to submit his manuscript to them for vetting of classified info and the NSC is where the most patriots reside in the WH.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Parnas tape is a real problem for Trump
Opinion by Dean Obeidallah


(CNN)"But her emails" became a shorthand way after the 2016 election to explain -- often in jest and as memes -- why Hillary Clinton, who was favored to win, lost to Donald Trump. However, all jokes aside, post-election studies confirmed that Clinton's emails were the most-covered topic during the campaign between May 2015 and November 2016.

That was in part because of the "drip, drip" drip" nature of the scandal over her use of a private email server while secretary of state. New developments -- from investigations being opened and closed to the release of previously unreported emails -- resulted in ever more media coverage.
Well, it's looking like Trump may be facing a similar "drip, drip, drip" type scandal that could result in "but her emails" being replaced after the 2020 election with "but his tapes."

The tapes in question are audio recordings secretly made of Trump by Lev Parnas, an associate of Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who was indicted last year for alleged campaign finance violations to which he has pleaded not guilty. And from what we've seen in past few days, the unexpected release of these tapes has the power to grab headlines, disrupting the media narrative Trump wants to be pushing in this election year and even forcing him or his GOP congressional allies to answer questions about the tape's contents.

What got us here was that a little over a week ago Parnas appeared on CNN and other media outlets to explain that his efforts helping Giuliani and Trump push Ukrainian officials to investigate Joe Biden were not about US national interests or rooting out corruption, but solely to help Trump win in 2020
In response to Parnas' allegations, Trump denied knowing Parnas (again), and the White House even tried to smear Parnas by releasing a statement noting that he is "a man who's under indictment and who's actually out on bail."
Lev Parnas has taken the impeachment stakes even higher
Lev Parnas has taken the impeachment stakes even higher

But then came the tape. On Friday night, Parnas' lawyer played an excerpt from a recording made at an exclusive dinner for pro-Trump super PAC donors held in a private room at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, DC in April 2018, which Parnas attended along with the President. On the tape, Trump can be heard pushing for ouster of the US ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a month before she was recalled.
The stunning part is not just the content of his message, but the language Trump used to express his desire to fire Yovanovitch: "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care," adding, "Take her out. OK? Do it." He sounds more like a mob boss ordering a person to be whacked than a president seeking the removal of a political appointee. The short clip went viral for the most of the day Saturday on Twitter with the hashtag #TrumpTapes.
Then in the drip, drip style of the Clinton email scandal, the rest of the audio recording of this dinner -- which totals nearly 90 minutes -- was released on Saturday night. In the full tapes, Trump can be heard mocking Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters as being "low IQ" to big laughs, bragging that he could've beaten President Barack Obama in 2012 and more, which prompted additional news coverage.
Pelosi's Ukrainian impeachment stew needs salt
Pelosi's Ukrainian impeachment stew needs salt

But it gets worse for Trump. Parnas' lawyer Joseph Bondy told CNN's Anderson Cooper on Saturday night that Parnas has more recordings of Trump. When asked if he plans to release them in the future, Bondy responded, "Perhaps."
That should keep Trump up at night. Look at what the release of this one tape did.
Even though we are in the middle of Trump's Senate impeachment trial, it made headlines and is resulting in GOP senators being asked to respond to the recordings on national TV. On Sunday morning, CNN's Jake Tapper asked GOP Sen. James Lankford if the tape raised questions about whether Trump lied about not knowing Parnas, to which Lankford responded, unconvincingly, "Certainly the President meets a lot of people."

There's no way to know what is on other tapes that Parnas' lawyer states that exist, or even if there are any. They may be nothing headline-grabbing. But the track record of secret audio recordings featuring Trump has been both damning and newsworthy. Before the election, there was the "Access Hollywood" tape in which Trump bragged about grabbing and kissing women without their consent.
And in 2018, CNN obtained audio of Trump speaking to his former lawyer Michael Cohen, who is now in prison, about an apparent scheme to pay hush money shortly before the 2016 election to a woman Trump allegedly had an affair with.
Who knows what other secret recordings of Trump are out there and how many will be released between now and November. But after this year's elections, if Trump loses, people might just be invoking "but his tapes" the same way "but her emails" came to define Clinton's loss.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Patriots in the White House. You gotta be shittin me!
More patriotic, some are there to keep an eye on things as a duty etc, they are there alright, they do most of the leaking (and whistleblowing too) and holding on for dear life, some are in the military. These are not the people who support and surround Trump who are criminals and traitors, they are the cogs in the machine of government and Trump requires them to get anything done, he doesn't listen to their council, but he and his henchmen order them around like pawns. The Trump WH leaks like a sieve and at historic levels.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Or it breaks the news on Trump's terms being leaked by him at a time of Trump's choosing because he knows this guy will publish it. I may be wrong, and at this time I am not going to pay for a NY times subscription so can't look up the 'leaked' stories he has done to provide evidence of my point.

I haven't seen where it was said that it was the "NSC" that leaked it, I just heard that very few people in the top of the White House had access to the book, so unless someone big gets fired today by Trump, Trump leaked it on purpose.

But in the mean time, I find this dude suspect.


The NY Times has done some suspect stories in the last few years pushing the Russian/Trump propaganda. And buried it when they turned out wrong.
I have noticed in the past that you often overlook the obvious. I think you did so about the Ukrainian jet being shot down by accident.

Bolton has publicly said he has a story to tell. He has signalled his willingness to appear before the Senate. And he has written a book. So what? Maybe the guy has a story to tell and wants to tell it. It makes no difference to me that he will make money by publishing. If it's an interesting and important story, he can go ahead and tell it. He hasn't said "I have a story to tell and only by buying my book can you hear it." I think the guy wants to tell what he knows. I don't care how it got leaked - we have a right to hear it.
 
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