Novel coronavirus introduced to humans in exotic animal meat market.

DIY-HP-LED

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What a great way TO SPREAD THE VIRUS!

A youtube video on how to make your own mask from common materials would be very popular and get a lot of views. I'll bet you could fashion an even better more effective mask yourself at home with a bit of DIY and some research online, make a video about making a mask and post it online. I'm not too sure about the efficacy of masks, but the medical community uses them for a reason, viruses often travel on much larger water droplets of moisture and a good mask can help with that, wash your hands frequently though and carry sanitizer if yer concerned. When you come home sanitize your mask and have several on hand.
Coronavirus: drone footage shows enormous queues for masks in South Korea
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I imagine you can get more elaborate than this with a DIY mask that is as effective or even more as a store bought one. In a jam ya sometimes need to be creative and prepared too, this might be your only option.
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[DIY] How to make FACE MASK for Coronavirus [TUTORIAL] [$0] [EASY]
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I can see Donald trying to suppress the news of the pandemic in America by ordering the CDC not to release data, it would negatively affect the markets. Donald would make China's response look tame, if he figured it would hurt the markets and his re election prospects, it would turn into a fiasco however, nobody would obey, but they would leak in outrage.
 

ColoradoHighGrower

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It may be organic, but it just knocked the stuffing out of the stock market and could trigger a recession in an already weak economy, unemployment means no more healthcare for many in America and their families as a pandemic approaches. Donald Trump is running the show and will deal with any financial crises, think he'll fuck it up bigly? He did bankrupt a casino and I believe he is the only person ever to manage his way to such a feat of incompetence. Also a pandemic would see healthcare premiums skyrocket as would the costs to the providers with mass hospitalizations etc.
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Dow plunges 1,000 points as coronavirus cases surge in South Korea and Italy
United Health leads the pack of losers, to little surprise. Worst single day drop in 3.5yrs. What happened 3.5yrs ago?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It's like comparing a baby to an adult.
Just found out on Maddow that trump fired the entire US pandemic response chain of command in 2018 and has not replaced them, thereby sabotaging the US response. Your close neighbor and friend thought you should know...
Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response
As it improvises its way through a public health crisis, the United States has never been less prepared for a pandemic.

 

abandonconflict

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In the last 24 hours:

US went from 15 cases to 50
Iran coronavirus deathtoll doubled with very few new cases confirmed
passed 80k cases confirmed
passed 2700 fatalities confirmed worldwide
Italy's number of cases passed Japan

More than a quarter of the 3700 passengers and crew of the Daimond Princess are confirmed to have contracted the corona virus and people are just starting to die. 10 were confirmed ill on February 3, 3 weeks ago.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Canada’s chief medical officer said today Canadians need to prepare for outbreak. Stocking up on food and meds ............ fuck!!!!
Be prepared to be housebound in other words, and if ya get sick stay home, call your doctor or the hospital, unless it's real bad. Be prepared for quarantine and economic disruption, is the underlying message, in many ways it's just like preparing for any other disaster I suppose. I imagine face masks are already in short supply and they won't be shipping any more from China for awhile!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Great news, the president says we are ok and the virus is going away, guess we don't need no stink'n deep state vaccine...
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Trump claims coronavirus is 'going to go away' despite mounting concerns

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump on Tuesday predicted the coronavirus is "going to go away" despite warnings from Democrats that his White House is asleep amid cresting fears in Washington that the outbreak could spark a pandemic.
The President maintained his sunny optimism about the virus that is showing signs of spreading around the world from its Chinese epicenter and is already having a huge impact on global commerce.
"I think that's a problem that's going to go away," Trump said during a trip to India, expressing confidence that the epidemic will not seriously harm the global economy.
But behind the scenes the President is less calm, and he is expressing frustration at some of the ways his administration is responding to the outbreak, sources familiar with the conversations told CNN. His mood reflects a growing realization among Trump's staff that the coronavirus is going to pose a greater challenge than previously understood.


After weeks of telling Americans that China has a lid on the situation, the President will return from India amid growing concern in Washington over the virus and partisan criticism of his attitude.
A panicked 1,000-point Wall Street sell-off, a building world supply-chain crunch and a looming hit to global growth together could pose peril for Trump by slowing the strong economy he plans to ride to reelection.
But even more worryingly, the virus is spreading to Europe and the Middle East in a way that has experts warning it could soon become a full-blown pandemic. In such a scenario, the US could not expect to escape from a wave of infections and Trump would face a test of his leadership and capacity to bring a jumpy nation together.
Trump acknowledged Monday's Wall Street plunge, but noted futures were higher ahead of Tuesday's market open in the United States and he said that his administration was putting "a lot of talent, brainpower" behind tackling the virus.
The President ticked though administration efforts to contain the virus, claiming the US had "essentially closed the borders."
"We're watching very carefully," Trump said. "We're fortunate so far and we think it's going to remain that way."
But Democrats are now sounding the alarm, with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer charging Monday that the President is "asleep at the wheel" as the threat builds.
A serious outbreak in the US could put a health system already facing a tough flu season under severe pressure, posing an organizational challenge for an administration that habitually stokes chaos and sends mixed messages.
Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Dr. Nancy Messonnier of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it's too soon to tell whether the problem will go away, as the President suggested.
"We're going to be, again, preparing as if this is going to continue, preparing as if we're going to see community spread in the near-term. But I'm always going to be hopeful that disease will decline either for the summer, or that we'll be over-prepared and that we won't see this kind of high levels of transmission here in the US," she said.
Trump could face a leadership test
Even if worst-case scenarios don't come to pass, Trump's so far blasé approach to the virus, assuring Americans that Chinese President Xi Jinping is on top of the epidemic, does not seem sustainable for much longer. The President has also confidently predicted that warming spring weather could snuff out coronavirus, despite no evidence that is the case.
Yet as disquiet mounted by the hour in Washington, Trump was still not showing much concern late Monday about a virus that has infected more than 80,000 people and killed at least 2,704 worldwide and has now popped up in South Korea, Iran, Italy, Afghanistan, Kuwait and elsewhere.
During a visit to India, the President sent a tweet suggesting all was well, and predicted the stock market would bounce back.
"The coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!" Trump tweeted.
The President was technically correct. Coronavirus cases here have been linked to Americans returning home from China or Japan, and have yet to spread outside contained areas. But his tone jarred with an increasingly ominous mood back home.
In a sign of increasing urgency, the administration gave senators a classified briefing on Tuesday morning about coronavirus contingency plans. Officials from the CDC, Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Homeland Security, the National Institutes of Health and the State Department took part.
Lawmakers leaving the briefing Tuesday said that officials told them that a vaccine is at least one year to 18 months away.
"The vaccine for the Coronavirus is moving more rapidly than any vaccine we have already tried to approve -- but it will take a year or 18 months," said retiring Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander, who chairs the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee. "The way to stop (an outbreak) is quarantine and monitoring."
He added, "I believe it's under control. Do I think it will spread in the United States? The advice we got today is inevitably it will spread."
The White House, meanwhile, asked Congress for $1.25 billion in emergency funding to combat the outbreak.
"The Administration believes additional Federal resources are necessary to take steps to prepare for a potential worsening of the situation in the United States," it said in a letter sent to Capitol Hill.
In a statement, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi blasted the emergency funding request as "long overdue and completely inadequate to the scale of this emergency." She hinted that her chamber would provide more resources than Trump requested.
"The House will swiftly advance a strong, strategic funding package that fully addresses the scale and seriousness of this public health crisis," Pelosi said.
Schumer had slammed Trump earlier Monday, saying the President was not taking the situation sufficiently seriously.
"All of the warning lights are flashing bright red. We are staring down a potential pandemic and the administration has no plan," the New York Democrat warned.
"The Trump administration has been asleep at the wheel. President Trump, good morning, there is a pandemic of coronavirus. Where are you?"
After the administration's funding request was unveiled, Schumer criticized it as "too little, too late."
Privately, Trump has lashed out against decisions made by his team and insisted stricter controls be put in place to prevent those with coronavirus -- even Americans -- from entering the United States, the sources told CNN
As The Washington Post first reported, Trump was upset to learn that 14 Americans who tested positive for coronavirus were allowed to fly back to the United States after spending weeks in quarantine on a cruise ship in Japan. He was initially told they would remain in Asia for further quarantine and was frustrated he wasn't kept abreast of the decision-making to allow them to return to the US.
He complained to multiple White House officials last week that he hadn't been consulted on the decision. But by Tuesday he seemed to agree it was ultimately the right call.
But Chelsea Clinton, who teaches at the Mailman School of Public Health at Columbia University, said the President was ignorant about global health and presided over an administration that had sought to cut funding in the area.
"The Trump administration is chronically inept at, and seemingly uninterested in, any type of long-term planning," Clinton wrote in an opinion piece on CNN.com.
But White House counselor Kellyanne Conway insisted in an interview with Fox News that Trump had taken "very robust action" working with local and state officials for weeks.
"The President has been so fully engaged on the issue from the beginning," she said, citing daily calls, policy meetings and restrictions on travelers entering the US from China
more...
 

Fogdog

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Great news, the president says we are ok and the virus is going away, guess we don't need no stink'n deep state vaccine...
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Trump claims coronavirus is 'going to go away' despite mounting concerns

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump on Tuesday predicted the coronavirus is "going to go away" despite warnings from Democrats that his White House is asleep amid cresting fears in Washington that the outbreak could spark a pandemic.
The President maintained his sunny optimism about the virus that is showing signs of spreading around the world from its Chinese epicenter and is already having a huge impact on global commerce.
"I think that's a problem that's going to go away," Trump said during a trip to India, expressing confidence that the epidemic will not seriously harm the global economy.
But behind the scenes the President is less calm, and he is expressing frustration at some of the ways his administration is responding to the outbreak, sources familiar with the conversations told CNN. His mood reflects a growing realization among Trump's staff that the coronavirus is going to pose a greater challenge than previously understood.


After weeks of telling Americans that China has a lid on the situation, the President will return from India amid growing concern in Washington over the virus and partisan criticism of his attitude.
A panicked 1,000-point Wall Street sell-off, a building world supply-chain crunch and a looming hit to global growth together could pose peril for Trump by slowing the strong economy he plans to ride to reelection.
But even more worryingly, the virus is spreading to Europe and the Middle East in a way that has experts warning it could soon become a full-blown pandemic. In such a scenario, the US could not expect to escape from a wave of infections and Trump would face a test of his leadership and capacity to bring a jumpy nation together.
Trump acknowledged Monday's Wall Street plunge, but noted futures were higher ahead of Tuesday's market open in the United States and he said that his administration was putting "a lot of talent, brainpower" behind tackling the virus.
The President ticked though administration efforts to contain the virus, claiming the US had "essentially closed the borders."
"We're watching very carefully," Trump said. "We're fortunate so far and we think it's going to remain that way."
But Democrats are now sounding the alarm, with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer charging Monday that the President is "asleep at the wheel" as the threat builds.
A serious outbreak in the US could put a health system already facing a tough flu season under severe pressure, posing an organizational challenge for an administration that habitually stokes chaos and sends mixed messages.
Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Dr. Nancy Messonnier of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it's too soon to tell whether the problem will go away, as the President suggested.
"We're going to be, again, preparing as if this is going to continue, preparing as if we're going to see community spread in the near-term. But I'm always going to be hopeful that disease will decline either for the summer, or that we'll be over-prepared and that we won't see this kind of high levels of transmission here in the US," she said.
LOL, he's shaking in his stained white pants over this. Republicans have hollowed out this country's economy and are touting low unemployment numbers as if growth in service sector jobs that will evaporate in a downturn, are a great achievement. What we needed was growth in manufacturing jobs and investments in infrastructure and education to keep up the strong growth that Obama set us up for. Republicans wasted our opportunity to do that when they passed their tax cuts for the wealthy and borrowed yet more money to finance even more welfare for the rich. Trump was setting up the economy to go into a nasty recession AFTER the elections, and positioned Republicans to take advantage of that too, win or lose.

Any bad economic news would have toppled Trump's debt fueled US economic projections for growth this year. Covit-19 was just the first. So, now, Trump is whistling in the wind, hoping nobody notices that his wig was blown off.

Next up, the drop in the economy is because of Nancy Pelosi and Democrats. Because liars lie. That's what they do.
 

hanimmal

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LOL, he's shaking in his stained white pants over this. Republicans have hollowed out this country's economy and are touting low unemployment numbers as if growth in service sector jobs that will evaporate in a downturn, are a great achievement. What we needed was growth in manufacturing jobs and investments in infrastructure and education to keep up the strong growth that Obama set us up for. Republicans wasted our opportunity to do that when they passed their tax cuts for the wealthy and borrowed yet more money to finance even more welfare for the rich. Trump was setting up the economy to go into a nasty recession AFTER the elections, and positioned Republicans to take advantage of that too, win or lose.

Any bad economic news would have toppled Trump's debt fueled US economic projections for growth this year. Covit-19 was just the first. So, now, Trump is whistling in the wind, hoping nobody notices that his wig was blown off.

Next up, the drop in the economy is because of Nancy Pelosi and Democrats. Because liars lie. That's what they do.
Trump has 5 months to go before he will try to get away with a recession being blamed on the Democrats (if they win the White House) because of the 3 month in a row of declines to call it a recession.
 

Fogdog

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So what this really boils down to, is it's just another reason to not go on fucking cruises.
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yuck, sharing quarters with a thousand or so passengers wracked by a disease and nowhere to go.

My mom lives in an assisted living facility. With the need for antibiotics to control disease among all of those immune challenged people, I expected the next super bug to come from one of them. I'm often wrong. Assisted living facilities are like cruise ships except they aren't going anywhere. All the people housed in those stationary cruise ships will be sitting ducks if this thing goes wild.
 

Budley Doright

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Be prepared to be housebound in other words, and if ya get sick stay home, call your doctor or the hospital, unless it's real bad. Be prepared for quarantine and economic disruption, is the underlying message, in many ways it's just like preparing for any other disaster I suppose. I imagine face masks are already in short supply and they won't be shipping any more from China for awhile!
Yup that’s what she’s saying lol.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Yup that’s what she’s saying lol.
See youtube for DIY solutions to a mask and make a better one than ya can buy, if required. If ya can grow pot ya can make a mask, out of a paper towel in a jam, but it's just as important to wash your hands and if your gonna wear a mask, carry hand sanitizer and use it.
 
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