When to start counting?

DaFreak

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Must have eaten white glue then...why would you count from flip when the plant is not even in flower ? You are inducing the hormones to tell it to flower at the flip but she certainly is not flowering....so when they tell you 12 weeks flower you count from flip ? Knowing that 2-3 of those weeks the plant is not in flower ?
Because shantibaba said so
 

Ausweed

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Because shantibaba said so
Who gives a fuck what Shantibaba said ? Is he growing your weed for you million dollar bullshit artist ? I’m convinced your one of those fools that sit here all day trying to disprove peoples experience based on what you have read and I would bet your a psych ward patient....muppet factory is alive and well
 

DaFreak

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experience and understanding are two different things. Sadly you prove that they are not always linear. I was a commercial grower for 20 years in a country where weed sold for $50 a gram. I did well and got out when the getting was good. Don’t get but hurt buddy. I don’t hate on small personal growers from oz where it’s illegal and they can’t make money from it. Personally I think It’s crazy to do something illegal if you aren’t making bank. It that’s a personal choice. Some people are willing to risk everything for nothing. Anyway, I’m sure you grow fine weed, just don’t have a fcking clue what you are talking about.
 

Ausweed

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experience and understanding are two different things. Sadly you prove that they are not always linear. I was a commercial grower for 20 years in a country where weed sold for $50 a gram. I did well and got out when the getting was good. Don’t get but hurt buddy. I don’t hate on small personal growers from oz where it’s illegal and they can’t make money from it. Personally I think It’s crazy to do something illegal if you aren’t making bank. It that’s a personal choice. Some people are willing to risk everything for nothing. Anyway, I’m sure you grow fine weed, just don’t have a fcking clue what you are talking about.
Your the clown who came on here with your initial retort.....$50 a gram; highway robbery or more bullshit dripping from your mouth.
Just for the record I believe you to be totally and utterly full of shit.
 

Ausweed

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start from the day you flip.
If you count from the flip; let’s say it’s a 12 week flowering guide....now knowing that many newbs would take the breeders advice and get to twelve weeks and pull....they would have weed that they wasted their time on.
 

Renfro

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I personally consider any day after flip as part of the flowering process. Stretch is an important part of flower as it largely determines yields. It's that stretch that turns into colas. It wouldn't stretch unless it started flowering and hormones are doing their magic, it's definitely not veg anymore... need for feed increases... It's flower even though the first few weeks aren't part of bud set it's still flower IMO.

I don't care what a breeders flowering time is or what a buddy tells me, I go by the plants trichomes and they tell me when it's ready.
 

jondamon

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The plant doesn’t but your body does

OMG lol. Really?

So if a plant doesn’t uptake IONs what does it uptake?

Actually do you know what? Forget it don’t answer that.

no wonder we used to send all the criminals to Australia back in the day!

Good luck with your own grows (oh wait have you even posted any pictures of your own grows)
 

Ausweed

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OMG lol. Really?

So if a plant doesn’t uptake IONs what does it uptake?

Actually do you know what? Forget it don’t answer that.

no wonder we used to send all the criminals to Australia back in the day!

Good luck with your own grows (oh wait have you even posted any pictures of your own grows)
Seek and you shall find....synthetic ions I do not want...
 

jondamon

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Seek and you shall find....synthetic ions I do not want...

The plant doesn’t but your body does
You need to stick to one line of advice.

so now they do uptake IONS but you don’t want synthetic ions!

Ffs.

my last post in here is just to say this.

now I’m beginning to remember why I didn’t come on this site for nearly 6 years.

it’s the same broscience bullshit from old hippie growers like yourself that refuse to learn anything new.

good luck with your outdoor grows. Your G13 looks a little under developed and hungry and you have some lower leaf die off in the centre.

good luck with your white widow which also looks underdeveloped and hungry.

also next time you may wish to consider a larger pot size as it appears you’ll be shit out of room in your pots in the next couple if weeks.

goodbye fucking muppet.
 

Ausweed

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You need to stick to one line of advice.

so now they do uptake IONS but you don’t want synthetic ions!

Ffs.

my last post in here is just to say this.

now I’m beginning to remember why I didn’t come on this site for nearly 6 years.

it’s the same broscience bullshit from old hippie growers like yourself that refuse to learn anything new.

good luck with your outdoor grows. Your G13 looks a little under developed and hungry and you have some lower leaf die off in the centre.

good luck with your white widow which also looks underdeveloped and hungry.

also next time you may wish to consider a larger pot size as it appears you’ll be shit out of room in your pots in the next couple if weeks.

goodbye fucking muppet.
Wow the herb obviously has the opposite affect for you doesn’t it you poor schizophrenic ? The synthetics are proof in your warped attitude you poor psych ward regular...No your actually looking at pure organic; and a fair ways off from harvest yet.
I’m not into clouding my mind with useless dribble from young wankers who are now learning what us “old hippies” have now long forgotten and decided is too much effort to worry about .... precious little thing you are. I hope you have mummy there to calm you down.
Listen when I smoke my “underdeveloped” “old hippy” weed I will be thinking of you and how the chemicals you have smoked in your short but sad life time have given you such a feeble small mind; to think someone decided to feed you at birth.
 

jondamon

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Wow the herb obviously has the opposite affect for you doesn’t it you poor schizophrenic ? The synthetics are proof in your warped attitude you poor psych ward regular...No your actually looking at pure organic; and a fair ways off from harvest yet.
I’m not into clouding my mind with useless dribble from young wankers who are now learning what us “old hippies” have now long forgotten and decided is too much effort to worry about .... precious little thing you are. I hope you have mummy there to calm you down.
Listen when I smoke my “underdeveloped” “old hippy” weed I will be thinking of you and how the chemicals you have smoked in your short but sad life time have given you such a feeble small mind; to think someone decided to feed you at birth.
So your old enough to remember the seeded weed that old dickheads like yourself didn’t realise you needed to separate males from the females to get sensimelia. “Progression”

I’m 40 years old “wanker” and I am not a fucking Kid.

I work as an ICT network manager with a degree in computer sciences, CCNA and CCNP.

it’s not a dick swinging contest in here.
The issue is your narrow minded logic is clouding your judgement.

I hope one day you realise that the earth isn’t flat.
 

Ausweed

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So your old enough to remember the seeded weed that old dickheads like yourself didn’t realise you needed to separate males from the females to get sensimelia. “Progression”

I’m 40 years old “wanker” and I am not a fucking Kid.

I work as an ICT network manager with a degree in computer sciences, CCNA and CCNP.

it’s not a dick swinging contest in here.
The issue is your narrow minded logic is clouding your judgement.

I hope one day you realise that the earth isn’t flat.
Sounds like your swinging your dick in here clown...actually pulling the little twad you call a dick....no I’m a little older than you and never had seedy weed unless I meant it for breeding.
Chill in the Sativas butter cup you obviously can’t handle your more psychedelic strains as they seem to be playing with what is left with your brain...
 

Ausweed

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ICT network manager....WOW....means fuck all to me and most that would read your proud chest pumping moment......I will also bet your one of these insecure geese with a so “original” sleeve tatt with beach muscles and a small dick to compensate for....
 

Daylee

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Thanks for all the advice guys
Im gonna try both ways and see for myself.
Btw one last thing, i saw alot of posts that talk about not being fed properly.
Is there a way to know you are feeding the right way?
Do you guys mean just keeping the plant healthy and not burning the leaves?
 

jondamon

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ICT network manager....WOW....means fuck all to me and most that would read your proud chest pumping moment......I will also bet your one of these insecure geese with a so “original” sleeve tatt with beach muscles and a small dick to compensate for....

Nope. I’m a 40 year married man with 2 kids and only a couple of tattoos that are out of sight.


By my “chest pumping” I was merely saying that I have a brain and my sythetic unlfushed weed has obviously had a detrimental effect on my brain comprehension.


Maybe you’ve got it backwards.


Maybe due to the amount of crap you’re spewing out, the crap (bat guano, Worm castings (worms skin) ) that you’re feeding your plants has possibly affected your cognitive development lol.
 

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Ausweed

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Nope. I’m a 40 year married man with 2 kids and only a couple of tattoos that are out of sight.


By my “chest pumping” I was merely saying that I have a brain and my sythetic unlfushed weed has obviously had a detrimental effect on my brain comprehension.


Maybe you’ve got it backwards.


Maybe due to the amount of crap you’re spewing out, the crap (bat guano, Worm castings (worms skin) ) that you’re feeding your plants has possibly affected your cognitive development lol.
Jesus Christ I was right....but to think your that insecure you actually posted a pic
 

jondamon

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Jesus Christ I was right....but to think your that insecure you actually posted a pic

So actually you’ve not been here since 2014 and your still spitting the same shit you did back then.

You started gorilla growing in ‘91 to ‘93. Seems like your still stuck in the 90’s mate.


In 2014 you said The same shit you’re saying now.

But then disappeared for 6 years and this thread is where you decide to reside yourself for humour lol.

Whatever mate.

I’ll stick to giving people advice based on knowledge and testing.

No wonder I usually hang out in the plant problems, grow room design and advanced cultivation threads.

Hmm I wonder why I don’t see you in any of those threads??
 

2cent

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I count when the stretch stopps
2or 3 week strain dependant.

Stretch is plant adjusting and still vegging as it stretches for more light. Its unnatural for us to flip
They are in a hormonal change

So when stretch is over i start count as this is when flower begins when pistl3s start to ball up and stretch ends
 
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