the real way to know how many weeks into flower
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mcinnc
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not really. what if their just showing very strong signs of "pre-sex" characteristics under a long (like 60+ day) veg?
Huh??
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It is helpful to know how long the strain will take though,especially when you're not growing organic and are on a feeding schedule.Heres an idea...
Harvest when your plant is ready, and forget about how many weeks its been in flower
You're right,I'm sorry for talking down on you.
Chrisgrowbud
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What about if the plant showed sex in veg and you keep vegging. Then when would you count ?
Chrisgrowbud
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I'm 88 days from the day i flipped. So what week am I really in ?? Im so confused. I flipped on dec17th.
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Craigson
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Youre in wk13 then.
My above statement aso assumes that plants have been vegged to sexual maturity(show pre flowers)
OPs statement seems to refer to buds forming before counting which is different than simple flowers.
Also, you could pop 1 females and get all different finish times.(unless you have an IBL) Breeder recommendations are based on an average.
CoB_nUt
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Showing sex and bud/flower set are two different phases. Sex can show in veg as stated. Flower/Bud set only happens in flower.
This is when I start the count in MY garden. In most cases it lines up with breeder "flowering" times listed which I never go by. The plants will show/tell you when they are ready if you can listen/read them.
They have no schedule,they are ready when they are ready.
This is when I start the count in MY garden. In most cases it lines up with breeder "flowering" times listed which I never go by. The plants will show/tell you when they are ready if you can listen/read them.
They have no schedule,they are ready when they are ready.
Thundercat
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For the record I agree with the original post on this thread. Flowering time begins when the plant actually starts to form flowers, just like with outdoor plants. You wouldn't say it was flowering until it started forming flowers. I base how I grow on the biology of the plant, not just what a bunch of stoners think is common practice.
Now all opinions aside, it doesn't matter how many weeks your plant has been flowering. It never mattered
. It won't be done based on a time frame, it won't be done until it is done.
Budzbuddha
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About a pound
Since we are sharing opinions....
Actual flower is AFTER STRETCH ... transition has finished / budsites set. Now its offically “ blooming “ .
Plants will show sex in about 5-7 weeks anyways .
Means only that plant can either be kept in veg or move to flower. So counting from first pistils is a moot point. But you guys do you.
Counting weeks anyways is a waste as plant finishes “when they finish” ...
Peace
Since we are sharing opinions....
Actual flower is AFTER STRETCH ... transition has finished / budsites set. Now its offically “ blooming “ .
Plants will show sex in about 5-7 weeks anyways .
Means only that plant can either be kept in veg or move to flower. So counting from first pistils is a moot point. But you guys do you.
Counting weeks anyways is a waste as plant finishes “when they finish” ...
Peace
Plants are like adolescents they aren't ready until they are ready. Doesn't matter what the books say, they didn't read them and if they did they wouldn't care, refer back to adolescents.
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I end the 18/6 light cycle on 12:00AM Friday. Plants are left in total darkness until the 12/12 cycle begins 34.5 hours later, Saturday @ 8:30AM. That Saturday is when 12/12 starts for me. I think "Weeks to flower" are a guideline..
The question is when does Mother Nature switch to 12/12 Vs us indoor growers?
Let us use Dutch Passion White Widow as the example. If you plant outdoors, "Typically, White Widow is available for harvest around the end of October. "
The longest day of the year is June 20th this year. There are 4.4 weeks in a month. Let us assume "end of October" is the 20th. That's about 17 weeks & 3 days flowering for Mother Nature.
Dutch Passion says their White Widow flowers indoors at about 8 weeks.
Where did the 9 weeks and 3 days of Mother Nature flower time go? Subtract out July for Mother Nature's sexing and that's still 13 weeks 3 days of flower time.
Thoughts?
The question is when does Mother Nature switch to 12/12 Vs us indoor growers?
Let us use Dutch Passion White Widow as the example. If you plant outdoors, "Typically, White Widow is available for harvest around the end of October. "
The longest day of the year is June 20th this year. There are 4.4 weeks in a month. Let us assume "end of October" is the 20th. That's about 17 weeks & 3 days flowering for Mother Nature.
Dutch Passion says their White Widow flowers indoors at about 8 weeks.
Where did the 9 weeks and 3 days of Mother Nature flower time go? Subtract out July for Mother Nature's sexing and that's still 13 weeks 3 days of flower time.
Thoughts?
Thundercat
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Less available daylight hours as the year progresses to do the rest of the work makes it take longer to get the same work done I would think. Indoors we maximize everything usually pushing the plants and controlling things.
ChrispyCritter
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I count from flip to 12/12. I count from there to when I harvest and that's how long flowering was. I use that as future reference for that strain and as a general guide so I can share info with others. There is no interpretation of when anything shows or starts to show or someone thinks is starting to show. It is a for sure date. Bottom Line is harvest when it's ready of course.
Budzbuddha
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Breeders are running “ controlled “ grows to flesh out the strains under artificial means so we can have similar performance under indoor grow conditions . Even if we simulate “ their “ grow conditions we still will get some variation in end based on “ our “ grow setup and environment.
Thats the part of the dance as we try to master the dialing in of an optimal environment that we each have in our own environment. We cannot rely on the strains to always run “ as intended “ always , big differences between breeders and their stock.
Most push first gen seed stock and that alone opens more variety both good and bad.
Counting weeks becomes less of an importance over ACTUAL STAGE plant is showing. Thats why their harvest times are estimates. Had plenty of so called 8 weekers run 10-11. Heavy sativas go 15.....
Master what mature buds look like and throw counting fingers and toes out the window.
Thats the part of the dance as we try to master the dialing in of an optimal environment that we each have in our own environment. We cannot rely on the strains to always run “ as intended “ always , big differences between breeders and their stock.
Most push first gen seed stock and that alone opens more variety both good and bad.
Counting weeks becomes less of an importance over ACTUAL STAGE plant is showing. Thats why their harvest times are estimates. Had plenty of so called 8 weekers run 10-11. Heavy sativas go 15.....
Master what mature buds look like and throw counting fingers and toes out the window.
ChrispyCritter
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Old thread I know but perfect example of what we are talking about....I flipped to flower 79 days ago and 4 different strains are almost done. If I thought 56 days was all these would need I'd be going crazy. These are hybrids nothing crazy sativa leaning 50/50 to 60/40 mostly indica. Just have to wait it o ut.
Can...feel..patience...slipping...away...Must..try...to...hold...on..harvest...whe n...ready..
Can...feel..patience...slipping...away...Must..try...to...hold...on..harvest...whe n...ready..
getogrow
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The breeder still labels them from the flip .... ONLY rollituop has decided thats not the "correct" way of checking. 8 weeks from the flip we have amber......according to rollitup , they dont make an 8 week strain. If i started at preflower , then the 8 weekers would go to 10 or so ..... thats bad an NOT what the breeder intended.
ChrispyCritter
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Whatever day a person chooses to count from until harvest is fine and dandy but you still should harvest when it's ripe and ready. Seeing some amber doesn't necessarily mean a bud is ripe. To each his own for sure but when a bud matures the hairs retract and the calyxes fill in. Buds take on a fuller shape. I see lots of pics of harvests that look like they should have gone longer. I run far red at lights out and malted barley teas that sometimes shorten flowering but I rarely have gotten an 8 week harvests unless I was impatient or talked myself into harvest based on some amber trichs mixed in with what is mostly clear and a few milky. Now I wait. Unless I run short of bud then I'm forced to clip a few lower ones just because. But hey that's what I like to do.
getogrow
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il old school , i look for mostly milky with an amber or two. not quite as mature as the next man likes it.
You are correct , you can count from anywhere you want an come up with the same product. We just been counting from the flip so long , thats its the "norm" until the geniuses at rollitup decided to count different. (just like a strain is a species not a strain but im not gonna argue it HAAHAHAH)
You are correct , you can count from anywhere you want an come up with the same product. We just been counting from the flip so long , thats its the "norm" until the geniuses at rollitup decided to count different. (just like a strain is a species not a strain but im not gonna argue it HAAHAHAH)