40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip

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Renfro

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So today I did some lollipoping of the bottoms and inner bits, these made a very thick bushy amount of nodes, lots of them will never see light so they gotta go. I can't wait to see how the buddies that Teknik sent me handle that. So spending some time on my hands and knees today. My back is hating me for it but it's gotta get done. In a few days they will get some defoliation of the larger fans that are blocking out some canopy. They really packed the trellis. This strains tendency to grow straight up and the woodier stems do make her a beast to train in this setup.

Room B is getting it's first 12 hour dark period today and they will get their final trellis training tonight when the lights are on, these ones vegged a few days more than I did in room B, they were/are very difficult to get the side fill on the trellis. Gonna be a multiple cookie (edible) day for my back lol.

I will post some pictures later.
 

max420thc

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I went from 5 gallon buckets to 10's and yield went up, I do believe that 20 would do even better.

I went to a larger size I would definitely use a tote in a tote type setup so it won't get any taller (the pot).
30 gallon and you production will go up further , you could use 55 gallon barrles cut down , or animal feeding trough to keep the hieght down ,
 

Renfro

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Before lollipop.

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After lollipop.

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One done and one not (side by side)

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Up-skirt about halfway into the pruning:

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there was a lot of bullshit in there to cull, anything that i could pull to some light i did that with, anything else that wont get any light, even after some defoliation up top, is gone. Sometimes you can pull a branch to where it will get some light from the sides, those get their larfy nodes cut off (lollipoped). Example:

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I have a 10 gallon bucket packed with larfy branches.

30 gallon and you production will go up further
there is definitely a limit to how much medium I am willing to haul up and down. i also think that there is a sweet spot. probably plateaus at some point.

I am getting bored playing in dirt and feeling like I wanna do some hydro again. honestly if i was gonna play with changing things up, i would consider an ebb and grow type system with large capacity res and large totes for sites. Just have to use larger pumps and i would want to use good parts so it is reliable. Float switches seem to be a weak link.

I would want big plants of course but I don't like DWC because it's just too sketchy on the root rot and energy intensive with chilling. I have done it before so I know what I am missing. I think that large site flood and drain (deep flood) would be a kick ass way to do trees, provided I come up with a reliable setup.
 

max420thc

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Before lollipop.

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After lollipop.

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One done and one not (side by side)

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Up-skirt about halfway into the pruning:

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there was a lot of bullshit in there to cull, anything that i could pull to some light i did that with, anything else that wont get any light, even after some defoliation up top, is gone. Sometimes you can pull a branch to where it will get some light from the sides, those get their larfy nodes cut off (lollipoped). Example:

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I have a 10 gallon bucket packed with larfy branches.


there is definitely a limit to how much medium I am willing to haul up and down. i also think that there is a sweet spot. probably plateaus at some point.

I am getting bored playing in dirt and feeling like I wanna do some hydro again. honestly if i was gonna play with changing things up, i would consider an ebb and grow type system with large capacity res and large totes for sites. Just have to use larger pumps and i would want to use good parts so it is reliable. Float switches seem to be a weak link.

I would want big plants of course but I don't like DWC because it's just too sketchy on the root rot and energy intensive with chilling. I have done it before so I know what I am missing. I think that large site flood and drain (deep flood) would be a kick ass way to do trees, provided I come up with a reliable setup.
 

max420thc

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In ebb and grow I use pure purlite, a billion gallons of it weighs 2 lbs or something like that, until it is wet and full of roots, it is not possible to overwater or get root rot ,
 

Renfro

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In ebb and grow I use pure purlite, a billion gallons of it weighs 2 lbs or something like that, until it is wet and full of roots, it is not possible to overwater or get root rot ,
Yeah I have a bunch of the large stuff from growing mushrooms lol. I would rather just let the roots hang in the air and get flooded. Then there is zero medium (except just a few LECA pellets in the small net pot).
 

Sif1

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Before lollipop.

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After lollipop.

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One done and one not (side by side)

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Up-skirt about halfway into the pruning:

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there was a lot of bullshit in there to cull, anything that i could pull to some light i did that with, anything else that wont get any light, even after some defoliation up top, is gone. Sometimes you can pull a branch to where it will get some light from the sides, those get their larfy nodes cut off (lollipoped). Example:

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I have a 10 gallon bucket packed with larfy branches.


there is definitely a limit to how much medium I am willing to haul up and down. i also think that there is a sweet spot. probably plateaus at some point.

I am getting bored playing in dirt and feeling like I wanna do some hydro again. honestly if i was gonna play with changing things up, i would consider an ebb and grow type system with large capacity res and large totes for sites. Just have to use larger pumps and i would want to use good parts so it is reliable. Float switches seem to be a weak link.

I would want big plants of course but I don't like DWC because it's just too sketchy on the root rot and energy intensive with chilling. I have done it before so I know what I am missing. I think that large site flood and drain (deep flood) would be a kick ass way to do trees, provided I come up with a reliable setup.
Looking great as usual mate.
 

Sif1

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I posted this grow just after planting, Its now in flower using Coco and a flood and drain table. The strain is called Pink Plant, F....kd if I know, got it from my bro as I needed 100 clones. Don't think will use again. They are stretchy motherfuckers. The LEDs are Ecospeed LEDs, equate to about 2000w total on a 2.4m table and a 3m tent. I prefer HPS and CMH so depends on the return of this crop the decision whether to continue with LED will be made.

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max420thc

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Yeah I have a bunch of the large stuff from growing mushrooms lol. I would rather just let the roots hang in the air and get flooded. Then there is zero medium (except just a few LECA pellets in the small net pot).
Deep water culture is great, until something goes wrong , if you are confident of 100 percent success every single time from now on, good idea, I am not that good a grower , I can guarantee 100 percent success with perlit and ebb and grow
 

Renfro

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I posted this grow just after planting, Its now in flower using Coco and a flood and drain table. The strain is called Pink Plant, F....kd if I know, got it from my bro as I needed 100 clones. Don't think will use again. They are stretchy motherfuckers. The LEDs are Ecospeed LEDs, equate to about 2000w total on a 2.4m table and a 3m tent. I prefer HPS and CMH so depends on the return of this crop the decision whether to continue with LED will be made.

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You have a current pic of them? I bet they are a lot beefier now.
 

Renfro

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Deep water culture is great, until something goes wrong , if you are confident of 100 percent success every single time from now on, good idea, I am not that good a grower , I can guarantee 100 percent success with perlit and ebb and grow
Yeah when I did DWC the yields were staggering in my setup. I used large totes and had a high volume of nutrients in the system. I had one strain that never had a problem with DWC, Kandy Kush. When people got tired of buying that I was trying other strains and found out that many weren't as tolerant to the DWC as the Kandy Kush. I got tired of losing a plant here and there halfway through a run to root rot.
 

Renfro

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That's was taken about an hour ago. They are just beginning. Time will tell Renfro. In reflection, I probably should have stretched more netting to control the canopy more.
Netting? Do you use the string kind or the stronger plastic stuff like Hortitrellis?
 

Renfro

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That's was taken about an hour ago. They are just beginning. Time will tell Renfro. In reflection, I probably should have stretched more netting to control the canopy more.
Oh it said 4/5/2020 so I just figured it was old. Better fix the date on your camera or turn off the timestamps lol.
 

Sif1

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Had this double-sided LED laying around so thought would put to use. Renfro, these are the LED bars I suggested trying using vertical in the middle of your monsters. Just a thought.

I have noticed with LEDs the hairs begin to go brown long time before they are ready, Has anyone else noticed this? And why? Spectrum burn??? I don't know.

Note the date..lol
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Renfro

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Had this double-sided LED laying around so thought would put to use. Renfro, these are the LED bars I suggested trying using vertical in the middle of your monsters. Just a thought.

I have noticed with LEDs the hairs begin to go brown long time before they are ready, Has anyone else noticed this? And why? Spectrum burn??? I don't know.

Note the date..lol
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I have tried some LED up under the plants as you have in the image, I didn't notice much gain, I imagine because the light was hitting the plants from the wrong angle. I plan to try and put some of teknik's buddies in the middle of a plant, will see how that goes, two strains back to back like a big rope light lol. Christmas comes early I suppose, hanging the lights lol.

As to the brown hairs, no clue, I hadn't noticed that at all. Perhaps it's environmental?
 
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