lokie
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Your presence or frequency is not at issue here.
Covid-19
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
You blew your credibility when you said that this virus is a hoax. That’s a Russian troll classic.
I don’t know why you’re here fighting for the enemy in a very real war of disinformation and propaganda with over 170 thousand known casualties in this country alone and millions of wounded.
Don’t speak your corrosive lies here. You are an agent of the enemy.
raratt
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So what have 170,000+ people died of, malpractice, or as you incorrectly called it homicide?
You are right, there is something very bad going on. It's the fact we have such a large body of intellectually bereft individuals they fall prey to the thinnest of conspiracy theories and revel in their ignorance.
While you have the right to speak you do not have a ticket to this conversation. The mere fact you refer to people strapped into ventilators, given barbiturates and homicide make my case. The problem is you do not know what you do not know and pride in ignorance makes you utter things that would make someone with mere passing familiarity with the subject blush.
Welcome to life in a post-fact world.
Chunky Stool
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Note: OP requested this be a Medical thread that did not include politics.
Please play by the rules.
Please play by the rules.
Thank you, it belongs in a flat earth thread equivalent.
Bazinga two in a row LOL
There really is and that's what makes it very hard to keep the political side out of it.
Laughing Grass
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I'm pretty sure we're seeing the second wave here.
BC and Alberta are rising quickly, hitting Ontario numbers. BC was seeing single digit days in June and July. Both provinces are around 5 million people, Ontario has 15 million.
BC and Alberta are rising quickly, hitting Ontario numbers. BC was seeing single digit days in June and July. Both provinces are around 5 million people, Ontario has 15 million.
Laughing Grass
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Edmonton's active COVID-19 cases more than double Toronto's; Hinshaw calls continuing surge 'a wake-up call'
With Edmonton's active COVID-19 cases more than double Toronto's, Alberta's chief medical officer of health says the city's continuing surge should be a wake-up call.
Edmonton has more than double the new cases that Toronto has. Edmonton population 980,000 Toronto 6.1 million.
I'm gonna be so pissed if we end up on lock down again.
DCcan
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Link to research for treating indoor air cheaply:
New weapon against COVID-19: Food coloring
"Instead of using expensive medical photosensitizers, we have identified several FDA-approved food coloring dyes that can be used to generate free radicals in visible light. We use ultrasound to generate small aerosols containing the food coloring so that the dyes can float and linger in the air. The aerosols are barely visible, and their small size and short lifespan in light means they don’t stain surfaces.
Photodynamic therapy was first demonstrated as a means of fighting bacterial infection. Oxygen free radicals, specifically singlet oxygen, can also inactivate viruses by damaging the nucleic acids, proteins and lipids that they are composed of. In particular, singlet oxygen is effective at breaking down the lipid envelopes that form protective shells around many viruses. Most of the viruses that are harmful to humans, including SARS-CoV-2, have these envelopes.
Several other disinfection techniques are available, for example aerosolized hydrogen peroxide, hydrogen peroxide vapor, ozone, steam and UV-C or “deep UV” illumination. However, these are more appropriate for disinfecting surfaces than disabling pathogens floating in the air. Also, they can be hazardous to humans. For example, deep UV is commonly used as a disinfectant, but is carcinogenic."
Personally, I think it would turn everyone orange.
New weapon against COVID-19: Food coloring"Instead of using expensive medical photosensitizers, we have identified several FDA-approved food coloring dyes that can be used to generate free radicals in visible light. We use ultrasound to generate small aerosols containing the food coloring so that the dyes can float and linger in the air. The aerosols are barely visible, and their small size and short lifespan in light means they don’t stain surfaces.
Photodynamic therapy was first demonstrated as a means of fighting bacterial infection. Oxygen free radicals, specifically singlet oxygen, can also inactivate viruses by damaging the nucleic acids, proteins and lipids that they are composed of. In particular, singlet oxygen is effective at breaking down the lipid envelopes that form protective shells around many viruses. Most of the viruses that are harmful to humans, including SARS-CoV-2, have these envelopes.
Several other disinfection techniques are available, for example aerosolized hydrogen peroxide, hydrogen peroxide vapor, ozone, steam and UV-C or “deep UV” illumination. However, these are more appropriate for disinfecting surfaces than disabling pathogens floating in the air. Also, they can be hazardous to humans. For example, deep UV is commonly used as a disinfectant, but is carcinogenic."
Personally, I think it would turn everyone orange.
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greg nr
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N.Y. Nurses Say Used N95 Masks are Being Re-Packed in Boxes to Look New
Source: Newsweek
Nurses working at an intensive care unit in a New York hospital say they discovered used N95 respirator masks in a storage closet that are being made to look new and distributed for use by hospital officials.
The ICU nurses sent a video to News 12 Sunday showing dozens of the N95 masks, which provide the best protection against COVID-19, hanging on a clothesline in a storage closet at the Vassar Brothers Medical Center (VBMC) in Poughkeepsie.
The nurses said the hospital was recycling the masks and boxing them up to make them appear new, something hospital administrators denied.
"All those masks were there to be packed away and saved," VBMC President Peter Kelly told News 12 Thursday, adding that VBMC and other hospitals around the country have saved masks to be sanitized and reused only if there's another national shortage of personal protective equipment (PPE), like the one seen earlier this year when the pandemic first hit the U.S.
Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/ny-nurses-say-used-n95-masks-are-being-re-packed-in-boxes-to-look-new/ar-BB18ehxP?li=BBnb7Kz
Source: Newsweek
Nurses working at an intensive care unit in a New York hospital say they discovered used N95 respirator masks in a storage closet that are being made to look new and distributed for use by hospital officials.
The ICU nurses sent a video to News 12 Sunday showing dozens of the N95 masks, which provide the best protection against COVID-19, hanging on a clothesline in a storage closet at the Vassar Brothers Medical Center (VBMC) in Poughkeepsie.
The nurses said the hospital was recycling the masks and boxing them up to make them appear new, something hospital administrators denied.
"All those masks were there to be packed away and saved," VBMC President Peter Kelly told News 12 Thursday, adding that VBMC and other hospitals around the country have saved masks to be sanitized and reused only if there's another national shortage of personal protective equipment (PPE), like the one seen earlier this year when the pandemic first hit the U.S.
Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/ny-nurses-say-used-n95-masks-are-being-re-packed-in-boxes-to-look-new/ar-BB18ehxP?li=BBnb7Kz
tangerinegreen555
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Seems like everybody is pissed these days.Edmonton's active COVID-19 cases more than double Toronto's; Hinshaw calls continuing surge 'a wake-up call'
With Edmonton's active COVID-19 cases more than double Toronto's, Alberta's chief medical officer of health says the city's continuing surge should be a wake-up call.edmontonjournal.com
Edmonton has more than double the new cases that Toronto has. Edmonton population 980,000 Toronto 6.1 million.
I'm gonna be so pissed if we end up on lock down again.
China lied early, the feds didn't take it seriously (but certain gov't officials dumped stock in January after a meeting), it became politicized, everybody who got laid off is pissed, everybody who lost money is pissed, everybody who got sick is pissed, school kids are pissed, sports leagues are pissed, etc., etc.
I don't like it one bit either, but I keep thinking of my parents and grandparents living through a depression that lasted a decade, serving in two world wars, surviving the Cuban middle crisis, the cold war, Vietnam and all of it without ever saying they were pissed about anything. But they were tough people.
Maybe we had it too easy until now and this is the test we have to weather.
We lost a lot of people. I'm just trying not to be one of them. Dying would ruin my day.
Laughing Grass
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I was pissed before covid, this just pushed me over the edge.
I can only speak for my generation but I don't think we've had it easy. Previous generations have been shit stewards of the future. Taking every opportunity for themselves alone, keeping us in a perpetual state of war, looting and plundering the economy and environment and screwing their children along the way. You can't survive without a university education, which costs as much as a house, and will take most of your adult life to pay off. Even with a degree jobs are few since most have been shipped overseas, competition is high so salaries are depressed and saving for the future is almost impossible. The future is honestly bleak.
I'm willing to do whatever is necessary to protect my parents and the older generations, just wish they would have done the same for me.
raratt
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Dr's, lawyers, and CEO's still need their cars, plumbing, and heat/air conditioning repaired and houses built by the trades to live in. Without concrete, electrical, and steel workers the corporations would have no place to do business in. I believe the trades should be better supported by our education system for those people who college may not be a direction they want to go in yet they can still earn an excellent living.