What do i need with AN 3 series for RDWC

[Sour D from Dallas tx]

What’s good fellas !
Been growing in soil for years and have gotten bored
so about to start my first hydro grow in an rdwc system with two plant 2x 5gal bucket and one res 5 gal.
I have purchased Advanced Nutrients micro, gro, bloom as well as the voodoo juice!
Question is will this alone be enough to give my plants what they need all the way through to crop time with no other Nutes? Oh and i purchased HydroGuard as well
I’m just trying to get my feet wet and learn the system with least amount of issues as possible. But of course a mfer doesn’t want to do a bunch of work for some tiny ass yield either ! Lol
Any helpful information would be greatly appreciated from all you proooooooooos
Also why we are here the Nutes are ph perfect but will my ppms naturally fall in range using these combined and following fairly closely to the feeding chart in AN site ?
Any-other tips anyone can think of as well they had going from Soil to rdwc feel free to throw me some of that game too much information is a good thing for me when it comes to cannabis growing !

Thanks in advance
Happy harvest to you all

 

[calvin.m16]

I've used Advanced Nutrients for a couple years now religiously. I'm doing a run of Heavy 16 which has been nice but definitely not the same value as Advanced Nutrients.

I started using their 3 part Micro > Grow > Bloom and had phenominal results so I ended up switching to the next level the Advanced Nutrients 2 part Connoisseur line. I then added Big Bud and used nothing else.. This was in COCO and DWC.

DWC will get clogged up if you add certain supplements like organic ones or anything that can ferment or congeal. I would stick with the 3 part for this run and then add in Big Bud the next run and see if its worth it. Of course document everything possible, yield, harvest time, time to veg, time to flower, etc..

Good luck bro I bet you will kill it!

P.S Make sure you run the nutrients quite light in Hydroponics. Start out at like 50% what they recommend and only increase as you see plants yellowing or having deficiencies. If you run your stuff at full strength right off the rip you're going to end up with problems possibly since the nutrients are so much more available in a hydroponic system vs soil fertigation etc..

 

[calvin.m16]

I missed the part where you were asking for recommended dosages.

I would start out feeding like this in DWC.

DOSES FOR 5 GALLONS OF PURE WATER.
Week 1-2 Veg: 0.5 oz of Micro > Grow > Bloom (If you notice any deficiencies like yellowing, rusty spotting or anything like that immediately up the dosage to 1 oz per 5 gallons)
Week 2-3 Veg: 1 oz Micro > Grow > Bloom
Week 3-4 Veg: Continue Week 2-3 feeding

Week 1-2 Flower: 1-1.5 oz Micro > Grow > Bloom - in that order.

If your plants look like they don't have burnt tips (like in my pics above) then you can slowly bump the 3 part up in increments of 0.10 oz (3 ml) every few days and see if the plants are happy. If they're not showing any tip burn or issues then you can slowly bump it up. I was able to get as high as 1.5 ounces per/5 gal of water before seeing tip burn on 3 different strains.

AN is very consistent and even though people hate hard on it for some reason it does yield excellent results so long as you do your part. Sounds like you're covering all bases which is good. Less is more when it comes to growing Cannabis.

 

[Dirtyc38]

Following this formula it seems to be doing well, I'm using floragro 3 part series plus hydrogard, cal mag, si armor

 

[Sour D from Dallas tx]

Hell yeah thanks brotha ! Yeah I’m def a heavy studier on my things before i roll with it instead of a lot of folks who rush it and just wing it. I have been studying rdwc and taking down information for 4 weeks now and slowly gathering my supplies so i have the best possible outcome. Very helpful response and those girls look amazing!
im running a chocobang and a sweet breath from Humboldt seeds. Then I’m going to do one regular dwc bucket (not recirculating) and add one of the 5 strands I’ve been running in soil (gorilla glue ,pineapple chunk , pin citrus express , cookies kush, or LA kush ). Will decide this week.
One more question to finish it off ! As far as res changes I’ve read the theory’s on how you watch ec as to how much Nutes girls are drinking as far as top offs go.
on yours how often did you do a full res change ? And how did you top off your res inbetween. I havea 3 x5 gal system 2 plants one water res with water pump and two circle air stones. Thanks bro

 

[Sour D from Dallas tx]

Also i have already bought the Voodoo juice as well it says only to run it first two weeks of vegg and first two of flower for huge roots would you not run it first time i work with rdwc ?
and i also mentioned hydro guard ? Did you not use any of that in your res when you ran AN each time ? For real thank you very helpful

 

[93OG]

I run hydroguard in every reservoir and have not had an infection in years. In dwc Oxygen to the roots is your biggest concern. I put an air stone in every bucket sometimes 2 in the summer. Also I’ve tried adding molasses, bud candy, and a couple other carbohydrate additives and every time they caused bacterial problems. The 3 part with cal/mag and hydroguard is all you need to get from seed to smoke. I add an extra 10-15 ml bloom around week 3 and 6 of flower and give the a 1 week flush.
I top up with water everyday and do a complete change every 5-7 days. I’ve found going past 7-8 days causes minor deficiencies or imbalances. I add Nutes once mid week to bring it up to the original ppm. I start seedlings at 125ppm bringing them up to around 325ppm by flower time. But that’s just me.

 

[Sour D from Dallas tx]

Ok so you top off with regular RO water throughout the week except for more Nutes half way through ? Is that water you use then at the half strength? Obviously I’m going to take my measurements throughout and adjust accordingly but trying to get a general rule of how it works for others ya know! Thank you homies for all the help for real I’m going to post pics as i move along it is my first rdwc but I’m going to crush it for sure

 

[93OG]

Yes more nutes halfway through. I add ro water to the height I want, about 6” from the top, then add the nutes . You’ll get to know how many ppm they add per measurement.

 

[myke]

Hell yeah thanks brotha ! Yeah I’m def a heavy studier on my things before i roll with it instead of a lot of folks who rush it and just wing it. I have been studying rdwc and taking down information for 4 weeks now and slowly gathering my supplies so i have the best possible outcome. Very helpful response and those girls look amazing!
im running a chocobang and a sweet breath from Humboldt seeds. Then I’m going to do one regular dwc bucket (not recirculating) and add one of the 5 strands I’ve been running in soil (gorilla glue ,pineapple chunk , pin citrus express , cookies kush, or LA kush ). Will decide this week.
One more question to finish it off ! As far as res changes I’ve read the theory’s on how you watch ec as to how much Nutes girls are drinking as far as top offs go.
on yours how often did you do a full res change ? And how did you top off your res inbetween. I havea 3 x5 gal system 2 plants one water res with water pump and two circle air stones. Thanks bro

Ive seen a few theses systems on this site,there not well designed.Drains to small layout is wrong.RDWC is easy when there set up right,but companies gotta mess it up.

 

[Sour D from Dallas tx]

I made my own 5 gallon buckets 10 in net pots and got a water pump and air pump that is over the reccomeded settings for both but they are adjustable so i can turn down or up accordingly. Are you saying there is something i should change ? I’m def open to suggestions I’m not one of these know it alls for sure so please share .

And thanks 93 of when you say 6 inches from top don’t you start water at a lil above net pot bottom and then work the water down further to get the roots to grow towards It ?

Keep the info coming please for real !

 

[Sour D from Dallas tx]

Also should i always just add RO water to the res and add the Nutes to res after i fill water up. Or should i mix water with Nutes then add it to the res? That i am asking for full exchange and also for top offs where i will be adding Nutes ?

 

[93OG]

for a full exchange I mix up everything then put it in the res. For top offs you can do it either way, I add the water then the nutes just so I can control water level and nutes separately. This is just what works for me. As long as you get an air gap at the top of around 6” and your ppms and ph are where you want it it really doesn’t matter how you get there.

 

[93OG]

I also recommend going this route for you ph and ppm monitoring needs. Instead of pens that you have to open the res for to check ppms ph and temp I get monitors that stay in the res at all times. I’ve come up with a cost effective collection that works really well for me with minimal hassle.

 

[93OG]

The ph monitor is like $35 the ph probe it comes with is garbage but the brain works as good as any bluelab. I buy that $50 probe to replace the one it comes with and it works great. I calibrate weekly but it often doesn’t need adjusting. It has a thermometer in it too. The tds meter is like $50 too, has two probes so you can put them in different places in your system to get a better idea of what’s going on. Anyway, all this is just how I like to do things.
All on amazon

 

[93OG]

Forgot the last photo
Ph meter:

 

[93OG]

I made my own 5 gallon buckets 10 in net pots and got a water pump and air pump that is over the reccomeded settings for both but they are adjustable so i can turn down or up accordingly. Are you saying there is something i should change ? I’m def open to suggestions I’m not one of these know it alls for sure so please share .

And thanks 93 of when you say 6 inches from top don’t you start water at a lil above net pot bottom and then work the water down further to get the roots to grow towards It ?

Keep the info coming please for real !

Sorry, yes in the beginning you def want the water high enough to keep the roots moist. Lower the water level as the roots grow eventually ending up with a 6” air gap and the rest of the roots in the water/ nute solution, 6” from the top of the bucket works for me but I use 6” pots with hydroton.

 

[Sour D from Dallas tx]

Yeah I’m using 10 inch pots with Hydroton and I’m seeing that it def takes up quite a lot of the res like to fill up my 3 bucket rdwc system to the bottom of net pots it only takes 10 gallons and I’ve been thinking this may run me into a problem with room for roots to grow in? Especially since I’m going to run voodoo juice and I’ve seen a lot of videos of massive root growth when using that? Do you think those 10 inch net pots are too big and should i go down ? Do you know anyone who has used the bigger ones?
Also thank you i probably will grab those meters i am using the ph perfect AN line is the pen should work for me on the ph since i can just take ph during top off or res changes. But def would be nice to have Ppm and temp readings at all times in both water res and plant res to see differential in each etc. thank you man that def will be something i will go with

 

[Tangerine_]

I've only cursed over this thread, but just a quick PSA - AN Voodoo Juice is a waste. ODA microbial analysis showed the spore counts were so low, they were undetectable. Same for Piranha and Tarantula. Its literally bottled water and truly "snake oil".
Look into Southern AG as a replacement for Voodoo

Their bases are fine and have similar ratios as others on the market but most of their supplements are redundant.
Budfactor X and Big Bud are two worth adding.
Oh and when mixing nutes, remember AN uses the 700 scale.

Thats all. Good luck and happy growing.

 

[93OG]

You’ll probably be fine with the bigger pots. I used to run ebb and flow tables and had 1/2 lb plants in a 1 gal pot with hydroton in there too. Don’t know anyone that’s run pots that big but that doesn’t mean anything and I have to use a screen to keep them from falling over with the 6” so maybe 10s are better?
Ph perfect is far from perfect but it does help. It seems to be more stable through the middle of the res life. I gave up on pens because I run 16 plants on 4 res and I can just glance around the room and see what’s going on with everyone. Instead of having to do it individually. And you can do it for the same or less the a quality pen