What Would an Evangelical Christian Country Be Like

Don't Bogart

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In fact, one of the things that brainwashed people do is assume any criticism of their beliefs comes from the "other".
Or are told that by their leader/s. Remember their not allowed free thinking.
Critical race theory is a direct result of Marxist "critical theory" just adapted to be racist.
I think I miss the point here. If in fact it was adapted to be racist wouldn't the right like this?
Or are you saying that it points to racism, white suppression, and the right doesn't want it taught because they enjoy the status quo.

Found this article about Marx's thought process.

Also I found this brief break down of CRT.
 

CatHedral

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Or are told that by their leader/s. Remember their not allowed free thinking.

I think I miss the point here. If in fact it was adapted to be racist wouldn't the right like this?
Or are you saying that it points to racism, white suppression, and the right doesn't want it taught because they enjoy the status quo.

Found this article about Marx's thought process.

Also I found this brief break down of CRT.
It is fascinating to see how describing Marx’s critical theory vs Marxist critical theory completely changes the connotation.

It is a subtle but dishonest way to tar valid thinking with the brush of the red threat.

One layer down, the kicking against CRT strongly suggests this user feeling threatened. Why feel threatened by something ridiculous? So this is involuntary admission that there is something to CRT. Something if real consequence. It is to hmmmm.
 

Don't Bogart

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It is fascinating to see how describing Marx’s critical theory vs Marxist critical theory completely changes the connotation.
I actually missed that. I would've thought they were one and the same.
This feed started out with a"what if.." and has devolved or evolved to Marxism.
Totally opposite to the 1st several posts.
Marx was an atheist.
Weirder still, Hitler was motivated by reading Marx.
Here's a little segue some of you might like.
 

CatHedral

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I actually missed that. I would've thought they were one and the same.
This feed started out with a"what if.." and has devolved or evolved to Marxism.
Totally opposite to the 1st several posts.
Marx was an atheist.
Weirder still, Hitler was motivated by reading Marx.
Here's a little segue some of you might like.
Adolf was a consummate opportunist. He mined Marx for how to use pseudosocialist ideas in gaining his own political traction.
 

Don't Bogart

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A government and a religious cult are very similar.
No nononono, you can use Dump's time in office as an example of a cult following. And yes if he had his way would've held that seat till death do they part. But fortunately the system, our standard system, took care of that. A cult has an ironclad leader who will not be deposed nor is there a system in place to do so.
 

Rob Roy

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No nononono, you can use Dump's time in office as an example of a cult following. And yes if he had his way would've held that seat till death do they part. But fortunately the system, our standard system, took care of that. A cult has an ironclad leader who will not be deposed nor is there a system in place to do so.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

The government cult I'm referring to has a common theme of "an irrational belief". That exists regardless of which buffoon is the current leader.

So in that regard the leader is a more like a symptom or manifestation of the cult, the cult itself derives it's existence from the belief. If / when the irrational belief (the real ironclad binding agent of a coercion based system) is shown to be what it is, the cult loses it's power.

Yes, Trump is a clown, but that has nothing to with why the irrational faith based cultish belief in government exists. It predates him.
 

Fogdog

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Yes, yes, yes, yes.

The government cult I'm referring to has a common theme of "an irrational belief". That exists regardless of which buffoon is the current leader.

So in that regard the leader is a more like a symptom or manifestation of the cult, the cult itself derives it's existence from the belief. If / when the irrational belief (the real ironclad binding agent of a coercion based system) is shown to be what it is, the cult loses it's power.

Yes, Trump is a clown, but that has nothing to with why the irrational faith based cultish belief in government exists. It predates him.
You tout a made up philosophy that has no basis in history or human behavior. You tout the rightness of being kiddy diddlers. You tout racist policies from businesses. All in the name of freedom.

For you, freedom is a zero sum exchange. White men take and everybody else loses.
 

Don't Bogart

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You tout a made up philosophy that has no basis in history or human behavior. You tout the rightness of being kiddy diddlers. You tout racist policies from businesses. All in the name of freedom.

For you, freedom is a zero sum exchange. White men take and everybody else loses.
Not that I'm totally in line with FogDog. In fact I'm a little dizzy but, your statement needs a foundation. You lack foundation. Please post something, ANYTHING, that backs up your theory.
 

Don't Bogart

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I can't believe we are having these conversations.
We do this while the chicken is cooking in the grill.
Killing time.
 

schuylaar

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No nononono, you can use Dump's time in office as an example of a cult following. And yes if he had his way would've held that seat till death do they part. But fortunately the system, our standard system, took care of that. A cult has an ironclad leader who will not be deposed nor is there a system in place to do so.
for now. but he's a parasite without boundaries.
 

Fogdog

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Not that I'm totally in line with FogDog. In fact I'm a little dizzy but, your statement needs a foundation. You lack foundation. Please post something, ANYTHING, that backs up your theory.
That post was just a grenade I lobbed Roy's way with no expectations that it would be replied to in a meaningful way. I was trolling.

I have rob on ignore because I find his posts odious. Not going to dredge up his arguments in favor of his whacko Anarcho-Capitalism or his belief that children are able to consent to have sex with adults or his belief that a public institution shouldn't be required to respect everybody's rights. So, I won't post examples. I will say they aren't hard to find if you look at the crap he writes.

But I'm not recommending anybody waste their time doing so.

For a laugh, ask him about the time @Rob Roy was crabbed at by a clerk at a local 7-11 for menacing customers by ignoring the store's policies to reduce the spread of coronavirus. He jumps from "she told me stop stumbling all over everybody" to accusations of police state.
 
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CunningCanuk

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That post was just a grenade I lobbed Roy's way with no expectations that it would be replied to in a meaningful way. I was trolling.

I have rob on ignore because I find his posts odious. Not going to dredge up his arguments in favor of his whacko Anarcho-Capitalism or his belief that children are able to consent to have sex with adults or his belief that a public institution shouldn't be required to respect everybody's rights. So, I won't post examples. I will say they aren't hard to find if you look at the crap he writes.

But I'm not recommending anybody waste their time doing so.

For a laugh, ask him about the time @Rob Roy was crabbed at by a clerk at a local 7-11 for menacing customers by ignoring the store's policies to reduce the spread of coronavirus. He jumps from "she told me stop stumbling all over everybody" to accusations of police state.
I have him on ignore now too. Every now and again I will check his posts (looks like you do that too), and I always kick myself after for doing it.
 

Rob Roy

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You tout a made up philosophy that has no basis in history or human behavior. You tout the rightness of being kiddy diddlers. You tout racist policies from businesses. All in the name of freedom.

For you, freedom is a zero sum exchange. White men take and everybody else loses.

Wrong on all counts directed at me. I might come back and trounce your allegations, maybe. Not sure if it's worth it.

White men have the same rights as every other person, no more, no less. For me freedom is choice and includes responsibility. For you, freedom is government granted privilege. Your obedience and boot lickery is amusing.

I hesitate to call you ignorant and know nothing. You probably know how to do something pretty well, maybe.
 

Rob Roy

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I have him on ignore now too. Every now and again I will check his posts (looks like you do that too), and I always kick myself after for doing it.
Yet, you never offer any clear rebuttals. Not surprising.

You have me "on ignore" = You have no logical argument that isn't inconsistent with your other arguments, hence you conflate to avoid the exposure.

Laughable. Amusing. Not cunning.
 
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