January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

hanimmal

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Hey guys my time is up. The wife is waiting on me to go out to eat with the family. But I will answer questions when I return. Thanks again for the discussion and hope everyone stays safe and is well.
Have a great night. And I will totally believe that you are not this guy (or I guess waiting to be told how to respond by handlers):

https://www.rawstory.com/maga-rioter-hearing/
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On Thursday, NBC4 Washington's Scott MacFarlane reported that a court has agreed to allow January 6 Capitol insurrection defendant Thomas Caldwell to use the internet as part of the conditions of his pre-trial release.

But there's a catch: Caldwell can only use the internet for approved legal purposes — and his wife has to watch him to make sure he's not bending the rules.

"Mr. Caldwell is hereby permitted to use an internet-connected device solely to communicate with counsel, to review discovery, or to conduct legal research," said the order. "He is not granted permission to indiscriminately surf the internet for evidence relating to the events of January 6th. Mr. Caldwell's wife shall monitor any access to any internet-connected device to ensure compliance with this term of release."

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Caldwell is a member of the Oath Keepers, a far-right paramilitary group consisting mainly of current and former military and law enforcement. Their members swear an anti-government oath that requires them to refuse to follow any order or law that conflicts with their interpretation of the Constitution — and many of them were present at the January 6 attack.

Previously, Caldwell has generated controversy after his lawyer demanded the case be moved to another court, claiming that a fair jury can't be seated in Washington, D.C. because the city's residents are "very anti-Trump" and "despise" the values of "traditional America."
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Garland quote from today.

“The DOJ remains committed to holding all Jan. 6th perpetrators, at any level, accountable under the law whether they were present that day or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy. We’ll follow the facts wherever they lead.”
I didn't expect much more than that, he holds his cards close to his chest, at least I hope. No need to pile on I suppose, there is a mountain of evidence and witnesses already and the story is known in great detail by the press and public. Public exposure is for the press and congress, prosecution is his job and they are quiet about that by policy.
 

CatHedral

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I didn't expect much more than that, he holds his cards close to his chest, at least I hope. No need to pile on I suppose, there is a mountain of evidence and witnesses already and the story is known in great detail by the press and public. Public exposure is for the press and congress, prosecution is his job and they are quiet about that by policy.
If the noninformation serves the outcome, I’m good with that.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think Garland is perfect for this moment. It will be next to impossible to paint any indictments from this Justice Department as partisan.

To people living in reality, I should add.
That's why he's waiting for NY to do Donald, he and Joe will have clean hands, cause Donald is gonna whine about being a political prisoner. They can imprison him faster than Garland and have a solid case on the go, when Donald is in a NY cage, the point will be largely moot and they can take their time going after the kingpin. They already know the facts, they will want public testimony during the federal trial to discredit Trump and the big lie, probably in 2023 or 2024, no rush, Donald won't be going anywhere and nobody will be hearing much from him.
 

Skillcraft

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If it is proven?
I used the term if it is proven because he has not been convicted of any crime in a court of law. Do I personally believe he committed a crime? Yes I do and I hope it can be proven and that he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. An example needs to be made and a precedent set.
 

printer

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To be honest I am surprised I have not been locked out of this thread yet. I thought I would have been by now.
You have not written anything beyond belief. You may have your bias but that is just you, not you trolling the forum. Intent is the difference.
 

C. Nesbitt

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This has been entertaining catching up for the last 8 or so pages. @hanimmal has been remarkably patient. @Fogdog’s English lessons were fantastically clever, particularly the definition of “Safe”.
In the bad old days (like a month or so ago), I think unclebuck would have jumped in and made assumptions about people’s sexuality and detailed last night’s alleged trysts with people’s mothers. That tactic was at times entertaining too, but the current back and forth has been a bit more adult.
Still clinging to hope that a detailed response to Hanimmals post #1493 is forthcoming.
 

Skillcraft

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Sorry my internet is running slow. I live in a small town where service is not so good. Had to switch to my phone. Let me go find post 1618 and try to respond
 

CunningCanuk

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I used the term if it is proven because he has not been convicted of any crime in a court of law. Do I personally believe he committed a crime? Yes I do and I hope it can be proven and that he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. An example needs to be made and a precedent set.
It’s already been proven, don’t you think? I’ll give you due process is important if you give me trump’s own words make conviction a formality.
 
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