Sacrificed a plant "2 week flush" - Pics Included

[calvin.m16]

So many new growers without any experience are flushing plants and then posting in the newbie section "why do my plants look like this?"

Flushed Example ;(

Not Flushed Example


The plant on the left was flushed where the plant on the right is still being fed 2.2 EC in Sunshine #4 Advanced mix. The plants are under the same light equally spaced from the center. You can see the plant on the right is filling out whereas the plant on the left (same genetics, same veg time, same mainline training) is burnt, crispy and necrotic.

If you are going to do a plain water "flush" then it should be only a few days prior to harvest. Flushing the plants for 5+ days with plain water is not necessary and you should never flush a plant prior to it being finished, always flush a few days prior to harvest if you really just can't help yourself.


p.s I had a run in with some thrips early into bloom, the problem was resolved, so you will see some specking on the leaves from them little arseholes.
The plants look really untamed because they are, these plants vegged a bit too long and I was unable to prune them to my liking due to them being very prone to herming when stressed (Since gotten rid of these genetics, this is the last run of ETHOS Mandarin Sunset).

 

[calvin.m16]

EC of Flushed plant is 1.78 whereas EC of unflushed plant is 2.37 12 hours after last watering.

Flushing is useful for resetting a grow medium by clearing out excess salt buildup (usually caused by running low end nutrient salts bottled or powder doesn't matter) and or just giving the plants enough water to where when you harvest the leaves aren't flopped over.

 

[VincenzioVonHook]

Doing God's work brother.

The amount of times have seen this here is astounding...people asking that exact question, but still in denial when someone mentions flushing being the reason.

A few months later, the same thing from the same grower, with the sam technique. Some people will never learn.

 

[VincenzioVonHook]

In before the flushing crew throws the

"Wait until you smoke it, the flushed plant tastes so much better, smokes better and is just better because I did it"

I've seen people flush, end up with crispy, necrosed leaves which have in turn caused bud rot. Lost a pound or two.

 

[xtsho]

If you don't flush you'll be smoking nutes. My buddy told me his friend has a friend that knows a dude that grows dank and flushes.

 

[90'sStoner]

If you don't flush you'll be smoking nutes. My buddy told me his friend has a friend that knows a dude that grows dank and flushes.

Is this why my tomatoes always taste like horse shit and wood Ash? Lol

 

[calvin.m16]

In before the flushing crew throws the

"Wait until you smoke it, the flushed plant tastes so much better, smokes better and is just better because I did it"

I've seen people flush, end up with crispy, necrosed leaves which have in turn caused bud rot. Lost a pound or two.

haha yeah they are the same people feeding 3 EC 2100 ppms to a clone wondering why it looks like shit. "This dude on YouTube with lots of subscribers said to use 3 EC and PH balance the inert RO water I flush with!

 

[Jjgrow420]

2.2 EC. Wow that's fucking high!

 

[xtsho]

Is this why my tomatoes always taste like horse shit and wood Ash? Lol

Mine tasted like eggs last year because I amended the soil with ground eggshells around the plants. I literally just sliced a tomato, put it on a couple slices of bread and it tasted like an egg salad sandwich. True story.

 

[calvin.m16]

If you don't flush you'll be smoking nutes. My buddy told me his friend has a friend that knows a dude that grows dank and flushes.

Yeah the nutrients will push their way up the stems and into the buds making it burn harsh.

 

[calvin.m16]

2.2 EC. Wow that's fucking high!

20 gallon pots of sunshine advanced #4, by tomorrow it'll be down to 1.6-1.8 each plant is 25 sq/ft they love it!

 

[calvin.m16]

2.2 EC. Wow that's fucking high!

This ones been getting 2.2 loving it. 6' tall beast 1000w Double Ended HPS.

 

[Jjgrow420]

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This ones been getting 2.2 loving it. 6' tall beast 1000w Double Ended HPS.

Ya 1.6 I can see. If you keep Riding high you'll notice things going south soon. Generally week 6-7. I used to feed high like that but realized I can feed between 1.2-1.4 basically the whole grow and not end up with issues. Usually I'll boost them up a bit in weeks 3-6 then taper down again
I do feed every watering as well are you doing feed feed water or something like that?

 

[calvin.m16]

2.2 EC. Wow that's fucking high!

They get dumb, I had to feed this one as high as 2.6 EC for it to not yellow. Ended up with just under 2 pounds on that plant.



These plants get so big that the netting doesn't really work optimally. Going to start staking the plants perior to netting and doing 3 layers of net.

 

[calvin.m16]

Ya 1.6 I can see. If you keep Riding high you'll notice things going south soon. Generally week 6-7. I used to feed high like that but realized I can feed between 1.2-1.4 basically the whole grow and not end up with issues. Usually I'll boost them up a bit in weeks 3-6 then taper down again
I do feed every watering as well are you doing feed feed water or something like that?

I feed every other day due to being in large 20 gal containers. I give them water with real growers recharge once every week with Cyco's "kleanse" basically sugar water for microbes. I got 3 5 liter jugs from a sales rep when I was checking out last time. I only run their silica, base, potash & swell.

Environment:
Lights On: 78 °F / 45% Humidity
Lights Off: 68 °F / 40% Humidity
Co2: 1200 ppm

Lots of good airflow above and below the canopies using high & low wall mounted oscillating fans.

 

[Nixs]

Flushing is for virgins

 

[Jjgrow420]

I feed every other day due to being in large 20 gal containers. I give them water with real growers recharge once every week with Cyco's "kleanse" basically sugar water for microbes.

I have a full line of cyco I haven't used yet

 

[calvin.m16]

I have a full line of cyco I haven't used yet

It's way better than you'd think for the price. I personally cut out their B1 Boost (Thiamin water), Uptake (Leonardite), Ryzofuel (Kelp), Suga Rush (Bloom additive) and zyme.

I run Grow A&B in veg and Silica, Bloom A&B, Potash+ (First 20 days of bloom), Swell (PK) +Supa Stiky (MPK) (20+ Days of bloom, cut out Potash).

Every time I mix in RO with my recipe I'm hitting 5.8 PH for coco/soilless mix. Plants LOVE it I never screw with PH at all. I ran their entire line but slowly cut out certain sh*t due to price and it being a "may help" product vs a necessary product. I'm also growing at moderate scale so I don't wanna run the entire line due to it being uneconomical.

Cyco is very forgiving compared to H&G Cocos which I ran for 2 years. I had to run that at a reduced strength or it would cause pretty severe N burn and burnt tips, also it seemed pretty PH sensitive and the rootzone with H&G would dip in PH really bad in-between feedings.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

20 gallon pots of sunshine advanced #4, by tomorrow it'll be down to 1.6-1.8 each plant is 25 sq/ft they love it!

Those plants are not 5 ft by 5 ft each lol

 

[Herb & Suds]

Mine tasted like eggs last year because I amended the soil with ground eggshells around the plants. I literally just sliced a tomato, put it on a couple slices of bread and it tasted like an egg salad sandwich. True story.

Use bacon fat instead of a wetting agent