Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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Killed him only 12 hrs after he tested positive, that's some mild shit.


Take the "mild" thing up with Dr. Fauci and the half dozen other experts I've seen on TV using the term in relation to omicron. They are speaking statistically, omicron still kills lot's of unvaxxed and vaxxed people, just not as many as delta would have. The fact is a large part of the expert community hope we will ride on omicron's back out of the pandemic, Fauci called it a "viral vaccine".

Like it or not this is the reality of the situation, eventually we will all deal with covid, omicron or some other version, until better vaccines come along. We should have home testing and antiviral therapeutics available when we do though, but these won't be used in every case because they will want people to develop natural immunity to new strains too. We already accept a lot of deaths every year from flu and RSV, this will be added to the list of seasonal woes.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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When I try to tell some friends about what covid can do to the human body, half of them don't like hearing it, not because they don't believe it, they just don't like thinking about bad things, it's human nature.



Insurance companies are already denying claims for covid claiming pre existing conditions with the covid comorbidities, if you're a fat diabetic they may turn you down because you had a pre-existing condition.
How about if they are unvaxxed? If obesity, diabetes, or a heart condition are preexisting conditions, then so is being unvaxxed in a declared pandemic.
 

captainmorgan

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I'm sure the assholes running insurance companies are republicans, so they don't give a shit about them, they deny claims, it's what they do.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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the latest expert opinion and they've been giving those with a large grain of salt lately
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i listen to what the CDC and the WHO say, because they have a better understanding of whats going on globally and locally than almost anyone else, but it seems like the further we get into this, the less they actually know....
yes, it is new territory, we've never been in a pandemic with the amount of world travel and world commerce we have now, and no ones ever had to deal with this...and that's why i still listen to the CDC and the WHO...but they are starting to fail to inspire confidence. of course, the alternative is joe rogan and steve bannon...so i guess i'll keep listening to the CDC and the WHO...
 

Fogdog

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i listen to what the CDC and the WHO say, because they have a better understanding of whats going on globally and locally than almost anyone else, but it seems like the further we get into this, the less they actually know....
yes, it is new territory, we've never been in a pandemic with the amount of world travel and world commerce we have now, and no ones ever had to deal with this...and that's why i still listen to the CDC and the WHO...but they are starting to fail to inspire confidence. of course, the alternative is joe rogan and steve bannon...so i guess i'll keep listening to the CDC and the WHO...
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We have learned a lot since the beginning of the epidemic and yes, it does feel as if we know less.

Dunston-Kugler won a Nobel prize on that very concept. As we gain more knowledge our understanding of how little we know also grows.

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Fogdog

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If they don't come up with a new approach on the vaccine we are fucked. They've discovered that covid-19 can infect cells in more ways than just ACE2. Another little tid bit is covid causes damage to the bodies repair system all the way down the DNA level. Covid leaves behind waste like plaques that cause brain disease and others that cause cancer. Did you know long covid involves infection of the brain stem? I'm not getting this info from facebook or some conspiracy theory website. It comes from research papers, many of them peer reviewed. I think "let it rip" is a act of desperation that will only speed up mutation and make things worse,if that's possible.

Ok, I'm a tinfoil hat wearing crazy, enjoy the mild covid.
I don't think you are a tinfoil hat type. It's just that we are out of options. I can self isolate and only go to gatherings where everybody has been recently tested and are negative. We aren't even a large minority in this country. Most people can't do that.

What is a working person to do?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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FFS
They started here in NS, but I figure they are idiots and wasting their time, soon the government won't care about proof of vaccination, if I'm reading the tea leaves right. Once all the unvaxxed and a large number of the vaxxed have been infected with omicron, the government won't care. They will need POV if they want to cross the border, they can protest all they want about it.
 

MAGpie81

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What ever is going on in Ohio doesn't sound right, the symptoms are extreme and numerous. Feeling like you have broken glass in your joints, one guy said he had a burning tingling sensation in his skull at the brain stem area,lots have serious headaches for days uncontrollable nose bleeds and others have symptoms similar to lupus,rashes and cold sores. Maybe there is just so many cases that these rarer symptoms just seem normal now but I don't think that's whats going on.
Maybe it’s exacerbating or piling on symptoms they already had from terrible environmental/safety regulations.
 

captainmorgan

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The Irish government says they believe that 114,500 people there have long covid and they don't know if they can take care of them all. How big is that number in the US?
 

captainmorgan

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Just did a quick calculation based on the population of the two countries. That means there should be 7.5 million long covid patients in the US.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i listen to what the CDC and the WHO say, because they have a better understanding of whats going on globally and locally than almost anyone else, but it seems like the further we get into this, the less they actually know....
yes, it is new territory, we've never been in a pandemic with the amount of world travel and world commerce we have now, and no ones ever had to deal with this...and that's why i still listen to the CDC and the WHO...but they are starting to fail to inspire confidence. of course, the alternative is joe rogan and steve bannon...so i guess i'll keep listening to the CDC and the WHO...
Back in the day, before the internet, the pronouncements of the CDC were divine writ, we never got to see the few scientific papers that lead to their conclusions. Now there are thousands of research teams globally cranking out papers of various quality about a dynamic novel situation in real time. We even have pre print articles that have not been peer reviewed and of course expert opinion and all kinds of other information on the internet. I'm just talking about the legitimate sources and media here, not the for profit disinformation system and there are thousands of those from across the globe.

So things are different and so are attitudes, we can now see the sausage of public health policy being made and the ingredients that go into to it in great detail. The CDC and other experts have learned right along with the rest of us during the pandemic as the data and variants emerged. We did learn a few things though, vaccines and masks work to reduce the spread and impact of this disease. We also learned who the selfish bastards were and that the antivaccer idiots can't think straight. In many cases the dumb brainwashed bastards are willing to die to own the libs, more useful information.
 

Sativied

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This is exactly why it’s healthy to start with “I know nothing and everything I think I know is quite possibiy not so”. Allows you to skip straight to “it’s starting to make sense“ and avoids doubling down on wrong. It’s at the second dot most people start anchoring their self-esteem to their knowledge, which makes the next two steps hard to reach. That’s where intellectual honesty comes into play. Once you’re on the segment of the path to the last dot, you‘ll realize knowledge comes from authoritative sources only and the democracy of knowledge is the start of idiocracy.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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FFS
well, they were highly effective...this is the first i heard of them, and hope it's the last...
and what a bunch of fucking dumbasses, a whole train of unvaccinated fucks, traveling from town to town, spreading happiness, and covid....................... :roll:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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well, they were highly effective...this is the first i heard of them, and hope it's the last...
and what a bunch of fucking dumbasses, a whole train of unvaccinated fucks, traveling from town to town, spreading happiness, and covid....................... :roll:
If they are all unvaxxed their convoy should peter out as it crosses the country, one by one they will get infected and drop out. They remind me of those antivaxx celebrities and hate radio jocks who catch covid and croak. If people want to run around in public with out a mask or vaccine, fuck them, the only issues I have is them clogging up the hospitals and pissing off the staff. In Canada tax payers foot the bill for these idiots, so I guess I care about the money wasted too, not to mention the vulnerable they needlessly infect.
 
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