xtsho
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When was the plant finished and harvested?
Defoliation Trial - 4 Clones
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Horselover fat
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January 29th I spotted mold on a top and chopped at 10 weeks 12/12. It was about time anyway, but I would have waited a bit more if no mold.
Haitham600
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Any picture before you committed the ultimate crime and killed it? I would love to see your harvest from this girl. She looks awesome when defoliaged. So she was about 10 weeks into veg and training before flowering.
Horselover fat
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Not quite ten weeks.. 7-8 weeks I think... It seems I flipped 18th/19th nov. Let's not take more space in hobbes' thread, but here: https://www.rollitup.org/t/led-users-unite.240615/post-16793456
I'm also not saying everyone should strip their plants. I'm not even saying the plant grew faster. I had nothing to compare to so how would I know. What I am saying is it did not slow down by much. That much I'm sure of.
Hobbes
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I_grow_weed
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I love it, very cool stuff you guys
potpimp
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I just don't understand the logic of this. It takes energy to regrow the leaves, so why do you let them come back? I'm not being critical; I'm just trying to understand why stripping them of leaves, only to let them regrow is a net positive for the plant.I think I'll drop this here... The defo threads are usually too hectic and filled with laughing emojis.
My last grow I had some troubles in veg and most fans got a bit damaged. I fixed my problem and then decided to experiment. I removed pretty much all leaves except for the small new growth. I have defoliated quite heavily before so I didn't really fear for the plant, and having had problems with it I didn't care that much either.
This is the plant after removing most leaves. Pretty sad looking, right?
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This is the same plant one week later
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Such a shock for the plant
Haitham600
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Like any plant, the more you prune it the stronger it gets. This is not about energy balance. You are right it takes energy, thats why you let it grew for a week after pruning. But when its time for flowering the plant is strong and can pull more nutrients.
Rurumo
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It's a phenomenon known as "overcompensation" in botany. You can't generalize results though, overcompensation is highly genotype specific, and what works for one genotype may hinder the yield of another. Here is a nice overview if you're interested: https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ecy.2667
potpimp
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Great find; I'm reading it now. I have noticed that when I let my herbs (basil, cilantro, sage, etc) grow, they seemed to stall out. When the wife needed some culinary herbs, I cut them and noticed that a week later they had grown back vigorously. I'm not sure if herbivores eating the fan leaves are a real "threat" to MJ, but I'm enjoying this experiment and anxiously awaiting the final results.
Haitham600
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No matter what you call it. Pruning a plant is something done from the past 100's maybe 1000's of years. If you have a fruit trees you would know what it is. Grapes or mint or herbs or fruit trees, etc are prunes every season to increase the trunk size or the fruit output. Our Ancaster farmers did it without even knowing the science behind because they see the results.
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Pruning - Wikipedia
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PJ Diaz
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Any you consider pruning and leaf stripping to be the same thing? I'm asking, because the link you posted does not mention this at all.No matter what you call it. Pruning a plant is something done from the past 100's maybe 1000's of years. If you have a fruit trees you would know what it is. Grapes or mint or herbs or fruit trees, etc are prunes every season to increase the trunk size or the fruit output. Our Ancaster farmers did it without even knowing the science behind because they see the results.
.Pruning - Wikipedia
bk78
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I can’t say I’ve ever seen a fruit tree swazzled, have you?No matter what you call it. Pruning a plant is something done from the past 100's maybe 1000's of years. If you have a fruit trees you would know what it is. Grapes or mint or herbs or fruit trees, etc are prunes every season to increase the trunk size or the fruit output. Our Ancaster farmers did it without even knowing the science behind because they see the results.
.Pruning - Wikipedia
rkymtnman
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Haitham600
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Regardless if you are taking leafs off or branches that carries leafs not navi shoes on them, the plant will act to defend itself and bulk up on the trunk and the remaining branches and produce more leafs. This is also like topping. MJ plants are just plants not something new to nature. Maybe the only plants you know are MJs.
bk78
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Where are you getting this data from?
PJ Diaz
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My plum tree self-swazzles in late-fall.
I think what you mean is that if you strip a plant's leaves it will enter restorative survival mode, and regrow lost mass, albeit at a loss of overall productivity. Yep sounds about right to me.
Hobbes
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4 plants before selective swazzee:
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I snipped any leaf with a petiole but it left a lot of Larfy undergrowth,
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The control and the lollipop,: (in the back)
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Notice something missing from this picture:
No carbon filter. My AirROS gizmo takes care of powdery mildew and odor.
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4 plants before selective swazzee:
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I snipped any leaf with a petiole but it left a lot of Larfy undergrowth,
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The control and the lollipop,: (in the back)
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Notice something missing from this picture:
No carbon filter. My AirROS gizmo takes care of powdery mildew and odor.
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Billy the Mountain
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Cool
They're great for disinfecting the air but how well does it work for smell?
How much, roughly, do those go for?
Prices are by request on their website
Haitham600
Member
The leafs look yellowish and droopy. Maybe you need some nitrogen. So for swazzee you are supposed to do it on 1st day and on the 20th day of flowering time perior. I am assuming you started flowering cycle now?