Anyone else remember when growing weed was simple?

It's a hobby...there will always be 2 ends of the spectrum in any niche hobby. Some people will spend their life savings to have the coolest, some spend just enough for a little satisfaction.
Of course. I'm not being critical. Just a curiosity I guess more than anything. I see things and I'm like "you don't have to do that". It is put out there in a way that could make people believe they need it. Humans tend to over complicate any given situation. It is just a reminder that more dollars spent doesn't always mean better results.
 

vertnugs

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Of course. I'm not being critical. Just a curiosity I guess more than anything. I see things and I'm like "you don't have to do that". It is put out there in a way that could make people believe they need it. Humans tend to over complicate any given situation. It is just a reminder that more dollars spent doesn't always mean better results.

Come on Now Jimmy.....we all NEED $400 sneakers to walk through the mall in.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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Of course. I'm not being critical. Just a curiosity I guess more than anything. I see things and I'm like "you don't have to do that". It is put out there in a way that could make people believe they need it. Humans tend to over complicate any given situation. It is just a reminder that more dollars spent doesn't always mean better results.
One of my other side-gigs is as a professional musician...and music forums (guitar, bass, etc.) are just filled with this debate. Some guys have a single instrument and amplifier (mass produced budget to mid grade) and call it a day. Some have rooms full of amps and instruments. Some buy hand/custom built high end stuff. There's no right or wrong and I've heard all levels of that consumption be both great players and awful players.

Same here.
 

Star Dog

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Your environment is the most important factor of growing if you want it 100% in a cool/damp climate it costs money to keep that environment on point and requires a lot of hardware to keep it right.

The simple light and a fan set up is never going to yeild anything worthwhile it's not for a serious grower imo.
 

shnkrmn

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Of course. I'm not being critical. Just a curiosity I guess more than anything. I see things and I'm like "you don't have to do that". It is put out there in a way that could make people believe they need it. Humans tend to over complicate any given situation. It is just a reminder that more dollars spent doesn't always mean better results.
Part of what you are observing stems from the culture of growing cannabis and the advent of online forums. It was clandestine for so long that a lot of knowledge exists in a quasifolkloric realm. New growers are often without the slightest gardening experience and they just want to get high and they start chugging broscience hard from forums and youtube and go with a kitchen sink approach. Failure often follows, frequently at the seedling stage. Moderately successful growers don't always know what they are doing either and dig in to their own way and look down at everything else. Equipment suppliers gladly cater to everyone with money to spend so you get insane nutrient regimens and fancier lights. We all get a buzz from our hobby.
 

Gemtree

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Sure it sold a whole bunch from the back of Playboy/Penthouse magazines back in the 80's and early 90's but don't you get the feeling that the people who bought them weren't really interested in growing...that was the point...it does it all for you. Beyond a few people here who have them as hand-me-down oddities, it's not like they really did much for anyone as far as I can tell.
Yeah my friends dad had one and grew some decent larf in it. I think the Omega still tops them all remember that spinning column grow thing lol. Or the stealth boxes that everyone started making their own metal storage grow boxes to copy.
 

Tolerance Break

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Simple is a matter of perspective and experience. I worked for a guy for 5 years cleaning his reservoirs, flood trays, assisting with feeding, and doing the heavy lifting. I've read all about the science, to my level of understanding, and it all boils down to feeding them what they want in the environment they desire. You can make it as simple or as complex as your heart desires, but the plant will tell you what you need to know. Most people just aren't good listeners.
 

efi2

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So many options now! I look at some of this grow tent bling and wonder why all this is needed. Grow light in a basement corner used to be standard lol.
I live in so cal weather great except smog ( believe there still very dirty air , you just can not see it or smell it or if you leave and come back feel your eyes burning like back in the 70s & 80s). In any a event you could just throw it in the ground and water and it just grew.
I just wondering if genetic of current strains are weaken to the point of having to have to environmental controls . instead of the plant adapting to the environment.
 

orangejesus

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One of my other side-gigs is as a professional musician...and music forums (guitar, bass, etc.) are just filled with this debate. Some guys have a single instrument and amplifier (mass produced budget to mid grade) and call it a day. Some have rooms full of amps and instruments. Some buy hand/custom built high end stuff. There's no right or wrong and I've heard all levels of that consumption be both great players and awful players.

Same here.
Very spot-on observation, and I'll bet I can guess one or two of those forums. I've not yet taken the plunge in purchasing a light/tent/fans/etc., but my limited research suggests that this hobby - for those who view it as such - is actually less prone to 'gear-silliness' than others.
I've yet to see a 'limited edition' LED where the only difference is special colors or graphics, or pots that are cast in limited edition shapes/etc.; I can't even begin to count the synths and drum machines - and guitars/basses - re-released with nothing more than a paint job or some douche's sloppy signature.
Paintball is just as bad, if not more so; bound to happen on something that's often viewed as a sport, but allows one also to tinker (gun builds) and collect (custom/vintage) under the same 'hobby.'
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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Very spot-on observation, and I'll bet I can guess one or two of those forums. I've not yet taken the plunge in purchasing a light/tent/fans/etc., but my limited research suggests that this hobby - for those who view it as such - is actually less prone to 'gear-silliness' than others.
I've yet to see a 'limited edition' LED where the only difference is special colors or graphics, or pots that are cast in limited edition shapes/etc.; I can't even begin to count the synths and drum machines - and guitars/basses - re-released with nothing more than a paint job or some douche's sloppy signature.
Paintball is just as bad, if not more so; bound to happen on something that's often viewed as a sport, but allows one also to tinker (gun builds) and collect (custom/vintage) under the same 'hobby.'
Yep. Also with any 'side' like this you have to look at the 'buy in'. What it will cost to outfit you for a reasonably comfortable setup that has all the stuff you'll need, plus enough quality to increase your likelihood of success. When I started keeping bees, the buy in was around 1200$ the first year., etc.

The other thing with some activities like instruments and sports gear is that sometimes good gear DOES make a difference. Having a good light mountain bike made the first year of riding for me less of a slog than a heavy cheap mass produced bike. I prefer instruments that are not just 'playable' but pleasurable to play. There's a certain pricepoint to get there, then above that is just gravy and the land of diminishing returns for your cash. Sometimes those diminishing returns are worth it to me, other times not.
 
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