First Hydro Grow!!

Will he ever see bud from this op?

  • Just another newb.

    Votes: 2 4.2%
  • Looks like he could make it if he doesn't start smoking his clones.

    Votes: 9 18.8%
  • Obviously getting his shit together and will most likely get some smoke in short order

    Votes: 25 52.1%
  • The next Weed Baron of the midwest

    Votes: 12 25.0%

  • Total voters
    48

Abnjm

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So if I am reading this chart correctly, if Al is using a Truncheon meter and is measuring 1400ppm and I am using a Hanna and measuring 1000ppm then we would both measure the juice at 2.0EC?

:wall: If this is the case then I am lucky I didn't burn them up.
Yes. I read through Al's posts and couldn't find out if he was using the 0.5 or 0.7 conversion. I believe 0.5 is prevalent in the US and 0.7 is used across the pond. If he was using 0.7, and you used 0.5, your 1400 ppm would be an EC 2.8 instead of the desired EC 2.0.

EC is the constant, that's why I always put the EC and ppm in my nute reports.

You know how new I am to this, so I could be just talking out my a**. :spew:

Hopefully someone more experienced will stop by to tell us if I'm right or not...

EDIT: I use the BlueLab truncheon. It reports CF, EC and ppm.
 

kpw555

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I know I must seem extremely dense at this point :dunce: but I want to make sure. I should be mixing for 2.0 EC and not 1400ppm?
 

Abnjm

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I know I must seem extremely dense at this point :dunce: but I want to make sure. I should be mixing for 2.0 EC and not 1400ppm?
Without knowing Al's conversion factor, I can't tell you with certainty. But, an EC of 2.0 (1000ppm for 0.5 conversion) sounds about right for a good starting point. I've always tried to be on the low end of the EC range in my grow, and just bump the nutes up if the plants look healthy.
 

Styl!st07

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Sorry i been out for a while.

Which meter do u have from Hanna? Is it the blue pin?

I always convert to the EC scale to make sure im on target.

So i wood start at 2.0 for the first week of flower.
(1400 @ 700 scale) (1000 @ 500 scale)

I dont think Al never said which scale he uses cuz i dont think any body asked. I suprised that he even used the PPm scale cuz i thought he should be using the EC scale since he is over sea's. He always uses the Euro metric scale in his Measuring. Who knows...... Only Al could give u an answer......
 

Styl!st07

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Whats up KPW?

How is everthing buddy?

Ur still flowering right?

I have sum bad new from me to u, my f**king clone died cuz my temp in the room dropped under 70deg and the clone had no chance. I was so close to get sum roots, i started to see sum bumps on the stem and i think its was getting close to root. I was a lil after 7-8 days old and then croked. Oh well i will take sum more here soon i just nee sum more space in my tent to fit them. I will be back and better than before. Thank u for all ur help and usefull info.

Keep up the good work. I be around here from time to time

- Styl!st
 

Scalded Dog

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bongsmilie Hey all what's up been a while since I have been able to get on here.:-(
Hope everyone will have a great turkey day :bigjoint:
 

kpw555

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Whats up Dog? Glad to see you up and about. Sty!ist I too am sorry for your loss. I have had some clone losses here also, but that goes with the territory..

I haven't made any posts for a while, I have been really busy at work and with the new grandbaby I have had precious little time to do anything but keep the garden up.

Yeah, I'm still flowering and it is starting to look like flowering weed.:weed:

All the clones from one of my mothers has struck but the others are hit and miss. I even re-cut some of them to try again.

I have 8 clones flowering and two of the soil mothers as well. I will try to get some pics this morning to show you all.

Dog here is a before and after pic of the little baby you brought me.


Here is a pic of some bag seed that I started a few weeks ago.


My first totally hydro start.:shock:
 

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Styl!st07

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Styl!st sorry to hear about your loss :cry:
:eyesmoke:Better luck with the next one
Its all good, u win sum- u lose sum!!!!!!

Thanx for the luck, DAWG.........

No worries KP, i will do better next time, Im glad i only cut one :bigjoint:


Here is a pic of some bag seed that I started a few weeks ago.


My first totally hydro start.:shock:
I have also had sum good luck with a White Widow seed i have germed in a RW cube, i was going to ask a few ???? on what ur way of doing it from the time it pops out of the cube.

I have placed mine in my tray/dome on a heatmat. How long do u leave them in there?

How often do u water them and how much water?

How long do u keep them civered with the dome?

When did u start to feed them nutes?

Do u keep the humidity high once they sprout?

Thanx for all the help from u KP, This is my 1st hydro run from seed and do want to fuck this one up. I know this is urs to but u are a week or so ahead of me and just wanted ur opinion on the grow from seeds the hydro way. Urs look very healthy and strong, i hope mine get that far.
Sorry if i took allot of space in ur thread. Ur doing so well at this i want to know ur secrets.:lol:

-Styl!st bongsmilie
 

kpw555

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Hey Sty!ist, always nice to see you here.

I started these seeds directly in the container that you see them in now.

There is weed block fabric in the bottom covered with a handful of pea gravel for weight and to hold the weed block in place. Then the pot was filled with perlite to where I wanted the RW to be and set the the cubes in and filled in with more perlite to just below the top of the cubes.

I soaked it down from the top with pHed water with h202 in it.

I cut a ziplock bag along the sides and layed it over both pots and left it there till the seedlings touched the plastic, then I took it off. They have been under 4 40W tubes the whole time.

When I put the nutes to them at 9 days I think it was still too early and one of them got a little curl to it but it didn't seem to slow it down.

I got home tonight just in time to shut the hatch for the night and didn't get any pics today. I will get some tomorrow for sure.


Hope you and everyone has had a happy turkey day.bongsmilie
 

Styl!st07

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Hey Sty!ist, always nice to see you here.
Aww, thank bud ;-)

I started these seeds directly in the container that you see them in now.

There is weed block fabric in the bottom covered with a handful of pea gravel for weight and to hold the weed block in place. Then the pot was filled with perlite to where I wanted the RW to be and set the the cubes in and filled in with more perlite to just below the top of the cubes.
What is a WEED BLOCK?

I soaked it down from the top with pHed water with h202 in it.

I cut a ziplock bag along the sides and layed it over both pots and left it there till the seedlings touched the plastic, then I took it off. They have been under 4 40W tubes the whole time.
Im wondering if i need to do that with mine. I just have my RW cube in an tray with the lid on. Im scared to take if off cuz i dont want it to dry out, but its soo humid in thr that i might start rotting things if its on there too long, RIGHT?

When I put the nutes to them at 9 days I think it was still too early and one of them got a little curl to it but it didn't seem to slow it down.
I guess i will waith the whole 14 days, What PPM did u start at?

I got home tonight just in time to shut the hatch for the night and didn't get any pics today. I will get some tomorrow for sure.
Sweet cant wait bud!!!!!!

I guess when u put that weed block in all that perlite it keeps the block from dyying out too fast, right? I think im at this point in my stage of growing that i need to do this before i start root or molding sumthing. Thanx for posting that lil piece of info, buddy, that helped allot. This is my first hydro grow from seed and im kind of stuck on waht to do next. Seems to me that u have done ur home work and have a plain on what to do next. I read so many threads but cant find anything on this stage on growing at the moment. Keep up the good work KP...........

This is my lil baby at 2 days old
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- Styl!st bongsmilie
 

Abnjm

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Whats up Dog? Glad to see you up and about. Sty!ist I too am sorry for your loss. I have had some clone losses here also, but that goes with the territory..

I haven't made any posts for a while, I have been really busy at work and with the new grandbaby I have had precious little time to do anything but keep the garden up.

Yeah, I'm still flowering and it is starting to look like flowering weed.:weed:

All the clones from one of my mothers has struck but the others are hit and miss. I even re-cut some of them to try again.

I have 8 clones flowering and two of the soil mothers as well. I will try to get some pics this morning to show you all.

Dog here is a before and after pic of the little baby you brought me.


Here is a pic of some bag seed that I started a few weeks ago.


My first totally hydro start.:shock:
Looking good kpw! Do you think the difference in strikes between the two mothers was genetic, or did you do something different?
 

kpw555

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Do you think the difference in strikes between the two mothers was genetic, or did you do something different?
Hey Ab,

Thanks for coming over.

I cannot say with absolute certainty, however I believe the difference to be genetic. I used a standardize method so that I could spot differences, and then hopefully attribute those differences to a specific root cause.

And of course the only mother that I set aside under a shelf in the dark is the mother of the clones that all struck.:wall: Now I have to get her back in shape for child rearing.

I have to go shut the flowering chamber now and will check to see if my camera is back yet for some pics.
 

kpw555

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Finally got my camera back!!!!!!

Here is some update photos.

Here is a shot of the whole table. The four in the front row are the original main stem clones that came from mothers I grew in soil.




Here is a close up of one of those original 4 clones.




One of the soil mothers, a White Widow at 16 days with four nice colas starting to fatten up. I don't have my table filled yet so I am taking up room with 3 1/2gal buckets and I am flowering the soil mothers right on the flood table. I had to use a bungie cord to hold it down during flood but it will be done in a few weeks and it really is no hassle once the cord is attached properly.



This one is a BubbleGum soil mother, also 16 days on 12/12. She is making up five sweet sticks of Bubblegum bud for me.



This is my entry into the bagseed arena. I just can't seem to make her really happy. All other plants are really happy just the bagseed has a slight droop to her. She seems to be growing fine otherwise.




They still have about two weeks of vertical growth left before they start really filling out. But I am happy with the result so far. I am almost totally hydroponic now and it feels kind of weird.

So sorry for the long post, it has just been a while since I have had my camera.

I have 4 more clones started after the first set of 4, then another 2 just two days ago for 10 total clones and two soil mothers flowering.








:leaf: :peace:Happy Holidays Everyone!!!!:peace: :leaf:


Whooooooooopiiiieeeeeeeeeee
 

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Abnjm

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The WEED BARON MEGA CLONES (TM) look awesome!

Did you get your res EC/ppm issues figured out?

Grow on! :blsmoke:
 

kpw555

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Hey thanks for chacking in guys. I always look foreword to seeing you all here.

Ab, I think I have a grip on my nute solution now. I dumped and mixed for 2 EC and everything looks ok. I will gradually bump it up over the next few changes till I think I am there.
 
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