Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 29.5%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 36 24.2%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 69 46.3%

  • Total voters
    149

Sativied

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perhaps climate destabilization would be a more descriptive term. Heating means energy input, which drives something like turbulence. The increase in extreme events is the apparent outcome.
Yes that sounds like a more accurate term but then that might be a negative. Convincing skeptics and contrarians it’s people who destabilize the climate comes ime usually after convincing them the climate is really changing and it’s not just a fluke occasion of weather we had in the past. Before you know it restaurants will have signs "we don't serve climate destabilizers"
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This Is The World’s CHEAPEST Solar Powered Car

127,052 views May 4, 2023 #lightyear #solarcar #electriccar
Jack heads to Breda to drive a prototype of the latest innovative solar-powered electric car to come out of the Netherlands: The Squad Solar. The brainchild of two former Lightyear employees, is this tiny, cheap and allegedly 'uncrashable' electric solar car the future of urban transportation? Or is it just a posh golf buggy?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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maybe a separate “speculative battery technologies” thread in tech&sci? Let’s reserve this thread for its stated topic.
It is the stated topic and converting to this technology is key to solving the problem and I consider MIT a reliable source of information and professional opinion. What is this thread about if not solutions? Whining about shit or solving problems with informed public opinion? The battery industry is seeing tremendous changes and growth with battery factories under construction all over North America and major government policy shifts supporting these changes. This technology is absolutely critical for both grid storage and transport with the various chemistries finding their niches in an evolving technological landscape. Climate change is about green technologies, wind, solar and geothermal as well as things like heat pumps and LED lighting technology.

Some people are meeting the challenges of the future head on and not whining and bitching constantly or destroying artwork with their personal vanity and an excuse of climate change. Technology got us into this shit and only technology can get us out or mitigate the damage, we can't all go "back to the land" and live like medieval peasants.

It is public policy and thus politics, so are guns, which is why there is not a separate gun nut section in RIU that nobody visits, but there are several threads on guns and mass murder in the politics section.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
It is the stated topic and converting to this technology is key to solving the problem and I consider MIT a reliable source of information and professional opinion. What is this thread about if not solutions? Whining about shit or solving problems with informed public opinion? The battery industry is seeing tremendous changes and growth with battery factories under construction all over North America and major government policy shifts supporting these changes. This technology is absolutely critical for both grid storage and transport with the various chemistries finding their niches in an evolving technological landscape. Climate change is about green technologies, wind, solar and geothermal as well as things like heat pumps and LED lighting technology.

Some people are meeting the challenges of the future head on and not whining and bitching constantly or destroying artwork with their personal vanity and an excuse of climate change. Technology got us into this shit and only technology can get us out or mitigate the damage, we can't all go "back to the land" and live like medieval peasants.

It is public policy and thus politics, so are guns, which is why there is not a separate gun nut section in RIU that nobody visits, but there are several threads on guns and mass murder in the politics section.
I disagree. Post after post after post of unproven Popular Mechanics-style speculation about batteries does not advance the thread’s program. I suggest compartmenting those elsewhere so we can get back to, oh I dunno, climate and climate politics.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I disagree. Post after post after post of unproven Popular Mechanics-style speculation about batteries does not advance the thread’s program. I suggest compartmenting those elsewhere so we can get back to, oh I dunno, climate and climate politics.
The last two posts were from IEEE.org and MIT and were professionally presented with realistic timelines and projections of the various technologies in the pipeline. It is US and Canadian policy to go EV in a serious way by 2030, that is a mere 7 years away. The third last post was about breakthroughs in zinc electrochemistry's that are apparently ready to go to market for cheap energy storage and the article and people involved put emphases this, hardly speculative. Several companies are producing sodium-based batteries or soon will be and silicon-based Li-on batteries are being produced now by several companies. So, there is a lot of news in the industry and not all of it is 5 or 10 years away. There is a lot of hype in this industry, and I tend not to post it and try to stick with things we should see implemented in a decade or less.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The last two posts were from IEEE.org and MIT and were professionally presented with realistic timelines and projections of the various technologies in the pipeline. It is US and Canadian policy to go EV in a serious way by 2030, that is a mere 7 years away. The third last post was about breakthroughs in zinc electrochemistry's that are apparently ready to go to market for cheap energy storage and the article and people involved put emphases this, hardly speculative. Several companies are producing sodium-based batteries or soon will be and silicon-based Li-on batteries are being produced now by several companies. So, there is a lot of news in the industry and not all of it is 5 or 10 years away. There is a lot of hype in this industry, and I tend not to post it and try to stick with things we should see implemented in a decade or less.
None of it has a catalog number. It’s Popular Mechanics.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I disagree. Post after post after post of unproven Popular Mechanics-style speculation about batteries does not advance the thread’s program. I suggest compartmenting those elsewhere so we can get back to, oh I dunno, climate and climate politics.
I didn't realize the thread had a program. I guess a "climate related technology" thread couldn't hurt. While i actually see the connection between batteries and the climate, I could do without seeing every speculative story about the subject that gets published.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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None of it has a catalog number. It’s Popular Mechanics.
Not a scientific or academic journal here, but most articles contain links and references to such articles, but they are not what most people would or could read. It is more about reliable information and future prospects so folks can make decisions about public policy, such publications have an extremely narrow focus and interest very few other than those working in the field.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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One of these outfits is installing its technology in California now and these kind of flow batteries might be common for grid storage and appear to make economic sense. It is economics, not technology that picks winners and losers, the tech used will depend on its application and these might make sense for grid scale storage and sodium, or even zinc-based batteries might make sense for home solar or as energy buffers at EV recharge stations. The way I see it there are three major markets for batteries, transport, grid storage and solar/wind home storage and all three might require a several technologies in each application. It seems flow batteries could appear pretty quickly and can be modularized for grid storage applications.


Why Salt Water may be the Future of Batteries

95,197 views May 9, 2023
Why Salt Water may be the Future of Batteries. The first 100 people to use code UNDECIDED at the link below will get 60% off of Incogni: https://incogni.com/undecided There’s no shortage of solutions to the world’s need for renewable energy storage, but there is a shortage of accessible and cheap resources to use for those solutions. Lithium and vanadium aren't limitless, so what about regular, run-of-the-mill salt? Redox flow batteries, or RFBs, can exploit the abundance of elements like sodium and iron. One U.S. company already has salt water batteries ready to go, with at least two others developing iron flow variations built to effectively run on rust. They promise to last longer and be far cheaper than the competition. So, what happens if we go with the flow?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I know it doesn't seem like a technological revolution, but we are in the beginning of one and by 2033 we should see big changes that will be visible mostly on the roads and rooftops. In 10 years, the market for gasoline should be very different with a lot less cars using it, along with lubricating oil, transmission, fluid antifreeze and even lifetime brake shoes or pads.


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Roger A. Shrubber

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https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/biden-administration-proposes-crackdown-power-plant-carbon-emissions-2023-05-11/

The biggest obstacle to this plan, that could help save the entire world?

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This republican in democrats clothing, this verminous piece of filth, that will try to sideline the entire bill to save his personal fortune...a fortune built on keeping one out of date power plant running, so he can sell it his filthiest of filthy, dirty, garbage coal no one else will buy.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/08/manchin-family-coal-company-00003218

This fuckbag sits on the committee for energy and natural resources, if you can believe that fucking insanity.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/biden-administration-proposes-crackdown-power-plant-carbon-emissions-2023-05-11/

The biggest obstacle to this plan, that could help save the entire world?

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This republican in democrats clothing, this verminous piece of filth, that will try to sideline the entire bill to save his personal fortune...a fortune built on keeping one out of date power plant running, so he can sell it his filthiest of filthy, dirty, garbage coal no one else will buy.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/08/manchin-family-coal-company-00003218

This fuckbag sits on the committee for energy and natural resources, if you can believe that fucking insanity.
Joe should tell him privately he will order the immediate closing of the mine and power plant and bankrupt the companies wiping out the shareholders, if America goes down, Joe will take this fucker and his buddies down with it and they will go down first.
 
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