Examples of GOP Leadership

doublejj

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TEXANS DIE FROM HEAT EXHAUSTION AFTER GOVERNOR BANS WATER BREAKS
House Bill 2127 preempts municipalities from enacting legislation in eight areas—with predictable results.

As a part of a bill critics have dubbed the “Death Star” bill—an expansive law that preempts legislation in eight key areas of local government—the Legislature has overridden local ordinances that require giving workers water breaks. Otherwise known as House Bill 2127, it was signed into law by Governor Greg Abbott on June 6.

Since then, 11 people between the ages of 60 and 80 have died of heat-related illness in Webb County
 

BudmanTX

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TEXANS DIE FROM HEAT EXHAUSTION AFTER GOVERNOR BANS WATER BREAKS
House Bill 2127 preempts municipalities from enacting legislation in eight areas—with predictable results.

As a part of a bill critics have dubbed the “Death Star” bill—an expansive law that preempts legislation in eight key areas of local government—the Legislature has overridden local ordinances that require giving workers water breaks. Otherwise known as House Bill 2127, it was signed into law by Governor Greg Abbott on June 6.

Since then, 11 people between the ages of 60 and 80 have died of heat-related illness in Webb County
yeah that bill sucked, the county i'm in is sueing as well as other counties down here, to get that overturned...

slowly Abbotts government is trying to take over city governing controls
 

BudmanTX

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no testify from Paxton


ur lawyer is using the orange avengers gaft as well......not good

wonder if Paxton realizes that the majority on that investigation was GOP.........hmmmm
 

Fogdog

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no testify from Paxton


ur lawyer is using the orange avengers gaft as well......not good

wonder if Paxton realizes that the majority on that investigation was GOP.........hmmmm
Paxton doesn't acknowledge anything other than how badly he says he's being treated by State House members of the GOP. Despite evidence and public testimony from prosecutors, witnesses, fraud victims and whistleblowers, he still seems to have a sizeable faction of Texan voters. They are even calling for the resignation of the Texas House speaker and talk of primarying of Republicans who voted to impeach him. A whopping 60 Republicans out of 60 out of 86 Republican legislators in the House voted to impeach him. Only 26 voted to acquit him. It's amazing that Paxton could have done enough to get them to vote to impeach him. After all, Trump is still their guy no matter how much evidence has been produced on him.

So, what are the charges?


> less than a year after Paxton was sworn in as attorney general, he was indicted on felony securities fraud charges for allegedly persuading investors to buy stock without disclosing that he would profit. Paxton denied wrongdoing and argued the case is politically motivated.
> Paxton did favors for a wealthy donor who employed his alleged mistress.
> I think they are most upset about the video record of Paxton drunk in public.

Resulting in 20 articles of impeachment leveled against Paxton by a House investigating committee in May (that) included allegations of bribery, unfitness for office and abuse of public trust.

MAGA GOP have no shame.
 

HGCC

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yeah that bill sucked, the county i'm in is sueing as well as other counties down here, to get that overturned...

slowly Abbotts government is trying to take over city governing controls
Dude...I'm so sorry the state you live in sucks. I stick by my statements that when you meet a dude from the south or rural areas while living in the northeast or on the coasts...hang out with them as it's going to be a rad time. But damn, fuck that state and the horse it rode in on.
 

BudmanTX

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Paxton doesn't acknowledge anything other than how badly he says he's being treated by State House members of the GOP. Despite evidence and public testimony from prosecutors, witnesses, fraud victims and whistleblowers, he still seems to have a sizeable faction of Texan voters. They are even calling for the resignation of the Texas House speaker and talk of primarying of Republicans who voted to impeach him. A whopping 60 Republicans out of 60 out of 86 Republican legislators in the House voted to impeach him. Only 26 voted to acquit him. It's amazing that Paxton could have done enough to get them to vote to impeach him. After all, Trump is still their guy no matter how much evidence has been produced on him.

So, what are the charges?


> less than a year after Paxton was sworn in as attorney general, he was indicted on felony securities fraud charges for allegedly persuading investors to buy stock without disclosing that he would profit. Paxton denied wrongdoing and argued the case is politically motivated.
> Paxton did favors for a wealthy donor who employed his alleged mistress.
> I think they are most upset about the video record of Paxton drunk in public.

Resulting in 20 articles of impeachment leveled against Paxton by a House investigating committee in May (that) included allegations of bribery, unfitness for office and abuse of public trust.

MAGA GOP have no shame.
no they don't this is asshat has been using his office to hide from federal authorities with that....


and Desantis and Abbott better watch out:

 

BudmanTX

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Dude...I'm so sorry the state you live in sucks. I stick by my statements that when you meet a dude from the south or rural areas while living in the northeast or on the coasts...hang out with them as it's going to be a rad time. But damn, fuck that state and the horse it rode in on.
yeah our gov sucks big ones, Abbott trying Authoritarian rule over texas with his other 2 minions......other than the gov, people are great especially where i'm at.....i do have to admit there are some that are just a little.....well lets say couple of french fries short from a happy meal
 

HGCC

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yeah our gov sucks big ones, Abbott trying Authoritarian rule over texas with his other 2 minions......other than the gov, people are great especially where i'm at.....i do have to admit there are some that are just a little.....well lets say couple of french fries short from a happy meal
I came from middle America originally man, it is what it is, as a region fuck them both, but that certainly doesn't mean anything on the individual level.
 

Fogdog

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Dude...I'm so sorry the state you live in sucks. I stick by my statements that when you meet a dude from the south or rural areas while living in the northeast or on the coasts...hang out with them as it's going to be a rad time. But damn, fuck that state and the horse it rode in on.
I've met some really good people from Texas, some not so much. I'd bet the same could be said about people from California. Regarding those I met from the East Coast who moved to CA while I lived there. I had a saying. The problems we had in CA were not from CA natives but people from the East Coast who came to CA to get away from the crappy people there and brought the crap with them. So many people moved to CA with their attitude. Brought the state down.
 

HGCC

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Idk, I seem to experience the opposite. I really embrace the idea of moving far away from wherever you are from and giving life a go without that baggage and support system, so I get stoked on people I meet that are outside of their comfort zone.

Past 5 years or so have been the first time I experienced that as kind of a middle aged person in a middle to middle-upper class area, much less impressed with it...most of who I meet now are the kinda conservative CA transplants rather than young people getting out there seeing what the world has to offer.
 

Fogdog

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Idk, I seem to experience the opposite. I really embrace the idea of moving far away from wherever you are from and giving life a go without that baggage and support system, so I get stoked on people I meet that are outside of their comfort zone.

Past 5 years or so have been the first time I experienced that as kind of a middle aged person in a middle to middle-upper class area, much less impressed with it...most of who I meet now are the kinda conservative CA transplants rather than young people getting out there seeing what the world has to offer.
yep, CA conservatives. Mostly old, mostly nearing retirement, mostly conservative, mostly anti-immigrant, mostly anti-govt, are selling their homes at a yuuuge profit and moving elsewhere. And bringing the neighborhoods down with them. Their CA real estate money pushes up housing prices wherever the go.

I used to live in Boise, which had very affordable cost of housing. Not any more. Boomers from LA showed up and ruined the market for the locals. A right winger from CA is still a liberal in Idaho. Or so the joke goes.
 

HGCC

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yep, CA conservatives. Mostly old, mostly nearing retirement, mostly conservative, mostly anti-immigrant, mostly anti-govt, are selling their homes at a yuuuge profit and moving elsewhere. And bringing the neighborhoods down with them. Their CA real estate money pushes up housing prices wherever the go.

I used to live in Boise, which had very affordable cost of housing. Not any more. Boomers from LA showed up and ruined the market for the locals. A right winger from CA is still a liberal in Idaho. Or so the joke goes.
They really are. Tbh most of who I meet now are pretty middle class folks that didn't buy early enough or their starter home+salary didn't go up enough to to get them out of a shitty area in LA.

I laugh my ass off and it takes a whole lot of restraint when I meet the actual conservative ones that left CA because of ye olde liberal whatever the fuck they try to claim.

California conservatives are ridiculous. Put them right over there with the log cabin republicans.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
They really are. Tbh most of who I meet now are pretty middle class folks that didn't buy early enough or their starter home+salary didn't go up enough to to get them out of a shitty area in LA.

I laugh my ass off and it takes a whole lot of restraint when I meet the actual conservative ones that left CA because of ye olde liberal whatever the fuck they try to claim.

California conservatives are ridiculous. Put them right over there with the log cabin republicans.
I have morphed from an East Coast Republican to a West (almost, desert) Coast liberal.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
That was something I noticed moving from the midwest to Boston as a young fellow. Their republicans were not the same as the ones in the midwest/south, that have gone on to dominate the party on a national stage.

It is what it is, hope leopards eat their faces.
The conservatives I remember were more polite but, at bottom, as radical. I saw the libertarian deviation already in full play some 45 years ago.
 

HGCC

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Regional differences are pretty interesting, I did watch the slide of working class white folks from the dems over to team R. Could ramble about it, but at this juncture it's sort of a moot point.

They didn't get lured by libertarians, but did feel pushed out by the Clinton version of neoliberalism, cant blame em for their "go fuck yourself" opinions. I did think Biden could have been a bridge back to win over those people, but was wrong and haven't seen much in outreach. At the same time, I see enough shittiness that I don't think that outreach should be made. It's all bad.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Regional differences are pretty interesting, I did watch the slide of working class white folks from the dems over to team R. Could ramble about it, but at this juncture it's sort of a moot point.

They didn't get lured by libertarians, but did feel pushed out by the Clinton version of neoliberalism, cant blame em for their "go fuck yourself" opinions. I did think Biden could have been a bridge back to win over those people, but was wrong and haven't seen much in outreach. At the same time, I see enough shittiness that I don't think that outreach should be made. It's all bad.
I don’t think outreach is a viable option when the mental poison of maga is driving a wedge between “follower” Republicans and a more centrist/liberal philosophy of government.

I don’t think Biden or moderate Democrats are at all lacking in the desire to build bridges and consensus. What I see however is a ruthless emphasis on ideology on the right. All the talk about baby-eating Demonrats points at equating compromise with “making a deal with the devil”. It pretty well kills any impulse toward coalition politics. So the Democrats are well-advised to remember the aphorism about pearls and swine.

“… not cast pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
 
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