There is a whole industry dedicated to reviewing cars and now EVs so the true numbers are out there and will be more so in the future. Batteries are the key the factories are going up and the new chemistries and battery types are arriving. Up until now all EV batteries were Li-on batteries that increased a bit in capacity and performance over decades and are flammable, but that is about to change in a big way with plenty more options and probably lower costs.
i know, i work in the automotive industry, and i've been doing it for bout 30yrs, so when i read articles from auto publications i get skeptical, cause some car manufactures will boast one thing while in reality it's not.....now when in comes to EV stuff, Li-on Stuff, and Hydrogen stuff, since it's new on the market, they can boast but in reality it's not.....it's got years to get where it needs too.....
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They are having trouble with insurance and home charging in the garage, fortunately there are nonflammable alternatives on the way. I think these issues will eventually drive flammable Li-on batteries out of the market, as soon as other options arrive. Sodium batteries might be the solution for small cheap EV and ebikes, nonflammable, very long life, great extreme temperature performance, lower costing and the power densities are approaching some Li-on batteries at a pack level because of reduced cooling requirements. They are making them in India using UK tech, in America and in China by a couple of different companies. Also new electrolytes have been developed for Li-on batteries that are nonflammable or less so and operate better at lower temps.Fire on cargo ship near Netherlands believed to be caused by EV
The Panama-registered Fremantle Highway was transporting 2,857 cars from Germany to Egypt, 25 of them electric.
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Sodium batteries are quite flammable. Ever play with sodium metal? I did. Good times.
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Sodium might be reactive, but the batteries are not flammable and use a water-based electrolyte, the answer for such batteries is a "pacification" layer or coating that modulates the reaction. Sodium batteries can also be shipped in a zero-volt state and around 3V is the lower limit for Li-ons. I've seen pictures of a hole drilled through a charged sodium cell with no reactions.
I was thinking sodium-sulfur, in which both ends are a fire risk.
If they were JUST sodium you would be right, but they aren't. They're a sodium ion, meaning sodium salt. About as flammable as the stuff you sprinkle on your veggies.
They are using them in cars in China now.
I know literally nothing about insurance systems in other countries but like I said in regards to the ebikes as well, it’s not a factor here in a way that it forms an obstacle for consumers. Suggesting a potentional or new EV (or ebike) owner he/she bought a firehazard would result in similar looks responsed to the claim Jesus will soon return. I think the insurance companies you’re talking about are perhaps more worried about profits than providing a service? In fact, the one I use for car insurance is non-profit and at the end of the year they pay me money back cause not enough people damaged their car or house to justify the $50 p/m I pay. Would be near double for a tesla but still.
( ok in reality they’ll probably rebuild and reship… plus the repair of the ship causes far more damage to the planet than the EVs would have saved ).
That’s still energy density unsuitable for anything but fixed installations or golf carts.
Chinese car companies are putting them in cars; think Nissan Leaf range. It makes more sense in China than here but it's a start.
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Here insurance is private and there are fire concerns with these batteries and even roof top solar and home battery storage. For things like home storage, Ebikes and low-end small cars I think sodium might be the way to go.I know literally nothing about insurance systems in other countries but like I said in regards to the ebikes as well, it’s not a factor here in a way that it forms an obstacle for consumers. Suggesting a potentional or new EV (or ebike) owner he/she bought a firehazard would result in similar looks responsed to the claim Jesus will soon return. I think the insurance companies you’re talking about are perhaps more worried about profits than providing a service? In fact, the one I use for car insurance is non-profit and at the end of the year they pay me money back cause not enough people damaged their car or house to justify the $50 p/m I pay. Would be near double for a tesla but still.
Nobody here is going to pass on the opportunity to get an EV because of that ship. And uhm… looking at it from a more positive perspective, 25 EVs just killed 2500 ICE cars.
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It’s private here too. The near-socialistic one I use is not the standard. If you look at actual cases, and the monetary damage involved, and divide that by everyone who has (mandator) insurance, it’s a non-issue.Here insurance is private and there are fire concerns with these batteries and even roof top solar and home battery storage. For things like home storage, Ebikes and low-end small cars I think sodium might be the way to go.
This gives you a small taste of what is happening in the battery industry and what we can look forward to, everything is in flux right now and the winners are uncertain, but I think the traditional Li-on battery is dead or will be and the fire hazard will be one of its pitfalls.
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I don't think it will be an issue much longer, progress marches on.
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