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'Political terrorists without any demands': Joe rips House GOP’s ousting of McCarthy
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The House voted Tuesday to oust Kevin McCarthy from the speaker's chair, with Rep. Matt Gaetz and seven other conservatives joining all Democrats present to remove him. The Morning Joe panel discusses the latest details.
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20 GOP senators led by Rick Scott vow to block bills not related to funding government
Facing a pileup of spending bills and a possible government shutdown, 20 Republican senators led by Sen. Rick Scott (Fla.) say they will delay any legislation moving on the Senate floor that does not relate directly to funding the government.
Scott circulated a letter at the Senate Republican lunch Wednesday warning Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) that GOP lawmakers will not tolerate further delay to the annual appropriations bills, none of which has yet passed the Senate.
“Nothing can stand in the way of this work. For this reason, we the undersigned senators pledge to withhold our support for any vote to proceed to items unrelated to appropriations bills,” the senators wrote.
The GOP senators are warning Schumer not to bring any non-appropriations bills to the Senate floor because they fear that letting the spending legislation pile up until December will inevitably lead to Congress passing another massive omnibus spending package.
“We urge you to present a plan to the Republican Conference for how you intend to pass the remaining appropriations bills and conference them with the House in a manner that respects an open amendment process and which does not end in a December omnibus spending package,” they wrote.
The senators, however, pledged to consider the spending bills “expeditiously” if Schumer commits to a plan for passing them in an orderly way and with an open amendment process.
The signatories include Senate Republican Whip John Thune (S.D.), Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), Senate Republican Conference Chairman John Barrasso (Wyo.), GOP Policy Committee Chairwoman Joni Ernst (Iowa) and GOP Conference Vice Chairwoman Shelley Moore-Capito (W.Va.).
Sens. Mike Braun (Ind.), Katie Britt (Ala.), Ted Cruz (Texas), Mike Lee (Utah), Kevin Cramer (N.D.), Cindy Hyde-Smith (Miss.), Ron Johnson (Wis.), Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.), Roger Marshall (Kan.), Eric Schmitt (Mo.), Thom Tillis (N.C.), Tommy Tuberville (Ala.) and Roger Wicker (Miss.) also signed the letter.
Republicans on Wednesday expressed frustration over Schumer’s decision not to bring a spending bill to the floor this week before senators leave for the Columbus Day recess.
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), the vice chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, said she was puzzled why Schumer instead scheduled votes on noncontroversial nominees this week.
Cornyn on Tuesday called for Schumer to cancel the recess so senators would have more time to debate the annual spending days.
“We had 45 days from Saturday to fund the government on an ongoing basis, and the majority leader has chosen to send the members of the Senate home for the next two weeks. It’s outrageous. It’s irresponsible. The American people deserve better,” he said.
Cornyn on Wednesday told Schumer to “quit wasting time” and get moving on the appropriations bills right away.
That sentiment was echoed by the senators who signed Scott’s letter to Schumer.
“There is no more important work for the Senate during this time than debating, amending and passing appropriations bills without resorting to a giant package dumped on the conference right before the December holiday,” they wrote.
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Facing a pileup of spending bills and a possible government shutdown, 20 Republican senators led by Sen. Rick Scott (Fla.) say they will delay any legislation moving on the Senate floor that does not relate directly to funding the government.
Scott circulated a letter at the Senate Republican lunch Wednesday warning Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) that GOP lawmakers will not tolerate further delay to the annual appropriations bills, none of which has yet passed the Senate.
“Nothing can stand in the way of this work. For this reason, we the undersigned senators pledge to withhold our support for any vote to proceed to items unrelated to appropriations bills,” the senators wrote.
The GOP senators are warning Schumer not to bring any non-appropriations bills to the Senate floor because they fear that letting the spending legislation pile up until December will inevitably lead to Congress passing another massive omnibus spending package.
“We urge you to present a plan to the Republican Conference for how you intend to pass the remaining appropriations bills and conference them with the House in a manner that respects an open amendment process and which does not end in a December omnibus spending package,” they wrote.
The senators, however, pledged to consider the spending bills “expeditiously” if Schumer commits to a plan for passing them in an orderly way and with an open amendment process.
The signatories include Senate Republican Whip John Thune (S.D.), Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), Senate Republican Conference Chairman John Barrasso (Wyo.), GOP Policy Committee Chairwoman Joni Ernst (Iowa) and GOP Conference Vice Chairwoman Shelley Moore-Capito (W.Va.).
Sens. Mike Braun (Ind.), Katie Britt (Ala.), Ted Cruz (Texas), Mike Lee (Utah), Kevin Cramer (N.D.), Cindy Hyde-Smith (Miss.), Ron Johnson (Wis.), Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.), Roger Marshall (Kan.), Eric Schmitt (Mo.), Thom Tillis (N.C.), Tommy Tuberville (Ala.) and Roger Wicker (Miss.) also signed the letter.
Republicans on Wednesday expressed frustration over Schumer’s decision not to bring a spending bill to the floor this week before senators leave for the Columbus Day recess.
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), the vice chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, said she was puzzled why Schumer instead scheduled votes on noncontroversial nominees this week.
Cornyn on Tuesday called for Schumer to cancel the recess so senators would have more time to debate the annual spending days.
“We had 45 days from Saturday to fund the government on an ongoing basis, and the majority leader has chosen to send the members of the Senate home for the next two weeks. It’s outrageous. It’s irresponsible. The American people deserve better,” he said.
Cornyn on Wednesday told Schumer to “quit wasting time” and get moving on the appropriations bills right away.
That sentiment was echoed by the senators who signed Scott’s letter to Schumer.
“There is no more important work for the Senate during this time than debating, amending and passing appropriations bills without resorting to a giant package dumped on the conference right before the December holiday,” they wrote.
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House GOP takes revenge on Democrats after McCarthy ousting
Allies of toppled former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) are fuming at Democrats for failing to back him amid his historic ejection — leaving Democrats arguing the GOP has no one to blame but themselves.
Republican ire hasn’t just been centered on the eight members of their own conference who ignited and backed the vote to oust McCarthy, but the Democrats who voted in unison to remove him.
And Speaker Pro Temp Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) exacted some swift revenge — booting both Speaker Emeritus Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and former House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) from their hideaway offices in the Capitol.
The move came after McCarthy called out Pelosi, who is in California for the funeral of Sen. Dianne Feinstein, claiming she failed to keep a promise made during his 15-vote battle for the Speakership to back him if his members ever sought to vote him out.
Staff began cleaning out the office late Tuesday night.
“It’s fairly petty stuff. And the odd thing to me is we’re getting blowback from moderate Republicans who really could have fixed this internally months ago and should have fixed it months ago, but they’re mad, they’re mad at the Democrats now for not bailing out McCarthy. I just find it, frankly, kind of immature,” said Rep. Glenn Ivey (D-Md.).
“This is their caucus, their internal voting, their internal meetings. It’s really incumbent on them to take care of their own problem and take care of their own internal civil war.”
Rep. Garret Graves (R-La.) told reporters Wednesday that Pelosi’s office space would be given to McCarthy.
But the offices are just the physical targets of a GOP seething that Democrats enabled a coup from the eight Republicans.
It’s an assertion Democrats wholly reject, noting that McCarthy has repeatedly capitulated to the MAGA-wing of his party, including by launching an impeachment inquiry into President Biden — and by frequently failing to negotiate with Democrats, even as his job hung in the balance.
Graves vented to reporters Wednesday, saying his colleague Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who spearheaded the movement, was “played” by Democrats.
“Let me say it again, the House of Representatives is frozen. And it’s frozen because Matt Gaetz was played like a drum by AOC, by Nancy Pelosi, and others … with just eight Republicans getting together with 208 Democrats. Every single Democrat in this chamber threw out the Speaker of the House with only eight so-called Republicans,” he said.
But it was clear his frustration wasn’t just centered on the other side of the aisle, at one point calling Gaetz an “arsonist” and again dragging him for fundraising off the whole episode.
“If we’re going to continue to have clowns like Matt Gaetz as part of the Republican conference as part of this Congress, then you’re going to have to have rules in place that prevent him from doing his charade. Every single week, every single month, where he goes out and he does his thing where he creates some manufactured crisis,” that he then uses to fundraise, Graves said.
“I think this should be illegal. I think people should be in jail for this crap,” Graves said.
“He’s the arsonist who lit the house on fire.”
McCarthy aired frustration with those members, as well as Pelosi, during a surprisingly upbeat press conference Tuesday night after the vote.
“They don’t get to say they’re conservative because they’re angry and they’re chaotic,” he said.
McCarthy said he spoke to Pelosi as he was struggling to secure the Speakership, in round after round of voting, saying she told him to accept the deal from conservative conference members that just one member could call a vote to oust him.
“She said, ‘Just give it to ‘em. I’ll always back you up,’” he said. “I think today was a political decision by the Democrats.”
Pelosi, in a statement, noted she was in California during the sudden call of the vote, and was unable to retrieve her belongings as they were removed from her office.
“This eviction is a sharp departure from tradition. As Speaker, I gave former Speaker Hastert a significantly larger suite of offices for as long as he wished,” she said.
“Office space doesn’t matter to me, but it seems to be important to them. Now that the new Republican Leadership has settled this important matter, let’s hope they get to work on what’s truly important for the American people.”
McHenry did not respond to a request for comment about the rationale for his decision.
Some Republicans felt that Democrats should have sided with McCarthy.
“You have [House Minority Leader] Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) acting like he’s trying to work in a bipartisan manner. He says we’re going to continue putting people over politics. That is the biggest load of garbage I’ve ever heard. They literally just aligned themselves with Matt Gaetz and the MAGA extremists to burn down the House. And they act as though you know, ‘We stand up for democracy; we stand up for our institutions.’ This was an opportunity to actually show leadership, real leadership, not nonsensical BS,” Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.) said in response to a question from The Hill.
“Frankly, it’s not serious to hear their outrage about the need for bipartisanship. They’re not serious about it. Because if you were, this was a moment to actually stand up for the institution and say, ‘Yeah, we’re not playing part to this.’ Yes, it’s Republicans’ responsibility. We’re in the majority. But they aligned themselves and facilitated this. They can’t act like they have clean hands in this.”
But Democrats were quick to point out that McCarthy made a number of strategic errors: caving to insistence from some in the conference that allowed for just one member to call for a motion to vacate, repeatedly giving in to right-wing demands, and refusing to negotiate with Democrats but then blaming them at various turns, including ahead of the vote to eject him.
McCarthy also could have delayed the vote to oust him for 48 hours to give himself more time to coordinate with colleagues – an option he did not avail himself of.
“I get that they’re upset about what happened and you’re sort of flailing around to find some sort of messaging to explain it. But this is the chickens coming home to roost on the way they’ve run their caucus and allowed it to be run since the 15 votes in January. And they really have only themselves to blame for where they are right now,” Ivey said.
Ivey said McCarthy’s firing wasn’t entirely surprising, as his agreeing to let just one member bring a vote to remove him from office left him incredibly vulnerable.
“He changed that rule. And I think all of us knew in January that that would end up being a problem for him, just because it took him 15 votes to get it. And so you knew there was a solid core of people who were going to be ready to hit the eject button at any time. And, you know, in some ways it’s surprising it took this long for it to happen.”
Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) also pushed back when asked about the role Democrats played in McCarthy’s removal.
“You’re talking about the chaos in the Republican Party. Look, right-wing Republicans have to solve the problems that right-wing Republicans create. And so the civil war within the Republican Party has nothing to do with us,” he said, noting Democrats have consistently pushed Jeffries to lead the House.
“I voted 15 times for Hakeem Jeffries for speaker, and I will vote 15,000 more times for Hakeem Jeffries for speaker.”
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House GOP takes revenge on Democrats after McCarthy ousting
Allies of toppled former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) are fuming at Democrats for failing to back him amid his historic ejection — leaving Democrats arguing the GOP has no one to blame but themselves.
Republican ire hasn’t just been centered on the eight members of their own conference who ignited and backed the vote to oust McCarthy, but the Democrats who voted in unison to remove him.
And Speaker Pro Temp Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) exacted some swift revenge — booting both Speaker Emeritus Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and former House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) from their hideaway offices in the Capitol.
The move came after McCarthy called out Pelosi, who is in California for the funeral of Sen. Dianne Feinstein, claiming she failed to keep a promise made during his 15-vote battle for the Speakership to back him if his members ever sought to vote him out.
Staff began cleaning out the office late Tuesday night.
“It’s fairly petty stuff. And the odd thing to me is we’re getting blowback from moderate Republicans who really could have fixed this internally months ago and should have fixed it months ago, but they’re mad, they’re mad at the Democrats now for not bailing out McCarthy. I just find it, frankly, kind of immature,” said Rep. Glenn Ivey (D-Md.).
“This is their caucus, their internal voting, their internal meetings. It’s really incumbent on them to take care of their own problem and take care of their own internal civil war.”
Rep. Garret Graves (R-La.) told reporters Wednesday that Pelosi’s office space would be given to McCarthy.
But the offices are just the physical targets of a GOP seething that Democrats enabled a coup from the eight Republicans.
It’s an assertion Democrats wholly reject, noting that McCarthy has repeatedly capitulated to the MAGA-wing of his party, including by launching an impeachment inquiry into President Biden — and by frequently failing to negotiate with Democrats, even as his job hung in the balance.
Graves vented to reporters Wednesday, saying his colleague Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who spearheaded the movement, was “played” by Democrats.
“Let me say it again, the House of Representatives is frozen. And it’s frozen because Matt Gaetz was played like a drum by AOC, by Nancy Pelosi, and others … with just eight Republicans getting together with 208 Democrats. Every single Democrat in this chamber threw out the Speaker of the House with only eight so-called Republicans,” he said.
But it was clear his frustration wasn’t just centered on the other side of the aisle, at one point calling Gaetz an “arsonist” and again dragging him for fundraising off the whole episode.
“If we’re going to continue to have clowns like Matt Gaetz as part of the Republican conference as part of this Congress, then you’re going to have to have rules in place that prevent him from doing his charade. Every single week, every single month, where he goes out and he does his thing where he creates some manufactured crisis,” that he then uses to fundraise, Graves said.
“I think this should be illegal. I think people should be in jail for this crap,” Graves said.
“He’s the arsonist who lit the house on fire.”
McCarthy aired frustration with those members, as well as Pelosi, during a surprisingly upbeat press conference Tuesday night after the vote.
“They don’t get to say they’re conservative because they’re angry and they’re chaotic,” he said.
McCarthy said he spoke to Pelosi as he was struggling to secure the Speakership, in round after round of voting, saying she told him to accept the deal from conservative conference members that just one member could call a vote to oust him.
“She said, ‘Just give it to ‘em. I’ll always back you up,’” he said. “I think today was a political decision by the Democrats.”
Pelosi, in a statement, noted she was in California during the sudden call of the vote, and was unable to retrieve her belongings as they were removed from her office.
“This eviction is a sharp departure from tradition. As Speaker, I gave former Speaker Hastert a significantly larger suite of offices for as long as he wished,” she said.
“Office space doesn’t matter to me, but it seems to be important to them. Now that the new Republican Leadership has settled this important matter, let’s hope they get to work on what’s truly important for the American people.”
McHenry did not respond to a request for comment about the rationale for his decision.
Some Republicans felt that Democrats should have sided with McCarthy.
“You have [House Minority Leader] Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) acting like he’s trying to work in a bipartisan manner. He says we’re going to continue putting people over politics. That is the biggest load of garbage I’ve ever heard. They literally just aligned themselves with Matt Gaetz and the MAGA extremists to burn down the House. And they act as though you know, ‘We stand up for democracy; we stand up for our institutions.’ This was an opportunity to actually show leadership, real leadership, not nonsensical BS,” Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.) said in response to a question from The Hill.
“Frankly, it’s not serious to hear their outrage about the need for bipartisanship. They’re not serious about it. Because if you were, this was a moment to actually stand up for the institution and say, ‘Yeah, we’re not playing part to this.’ Yes, it’s Republicans’ responsibility. We’re in the majority. But they aligned themselves and facilitated this. They can’t act like they have clean hands in this.”
But Democrats were quick to point out that McCarthy made a number of strategic errors: caving to insistence from some in the conference that allowed for just one member to call for a motion to vacate, repeatedly giving in to right-wing demands, and refusing to negotiate with Democrats but then blaming them at various turns, including ahead of the vote to eject him.
McCarthy also could have delayed the vote to oust him for 48 hours to give himself more time to coordinate with colleagues – an option he did not avail himself of.
“I get that they’re upset about what happened and you’re sort of flailing around to find some sort of messaging to explain it. But this is the chickens coming home to roost on the way they’ve run their caucus and allowed it to be run since the 15 votes in January. And they really have only themselves to blame for where they are right now,” Ivey said.
Ivey said McCarthy’s firing wasn’t entirely surprising, as his agreeing to let just one member bring a vote to remove him from office left him incredibly vulnerable.
“He changed that rule. And I think all of us knew in January that that would end up being a problem for him, just because it took him 15 votes to get it. And so you knew there was a solid core of people who were going to be ready to hit the eject button at any time. And, you know, in some ways it’s surprising it took this long for it to happen.”
Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) also pushed back when asked about the role Democrats played in McCarthy’s removal.
“You’re talking about the chaos in the Republican Party. Look, right-wing Republicans have to solve the problems that right-wing Republicans create. And so the civil war within the Republican Party has nothing to do with us,” he said, noting Democrats have consistently pushed Jeffries to lead the House.
“I voted 15 times for Hakeem Jeffries for speaker, and I will vote 15,000 more times for Hakeem Jeffries for speaker.”
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Allies of toppled former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) are fuming at Democrats for failing to back him amid his historic ejection — leaving Democrats arguing the GOP has no one to blame b…
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Republicans call for making it harder to remove Speaker after McCarthy ouster
A growing chorus of Republicans are demanding the House change or get rid of the rule that paved the way for former Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s (R-Calif.) ouster this week.
McCarthy was removed from the top spot in a 216-210 vote on what’s known as a “motion to vacate,” making him the first Speaker ever to be ousted by the House. All House Democrats and eight Republicans voted to remove the Speaker’s gavel from the California Republican.
As part of the dramatic, 15-ballot election that handed McCarthy the gavel in January, the former Speaker agreed to lower the threshold to force a vote on a motion to vacate from five to one — which allowed Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) to single-handedly call for the vote this week.
Now, Republicans furious at the mutiny want to make sure that can’t happen again.
Rep. Carlos Gimenez (R-Fla.) said Wednesday he will withhold support for a new Speaker candidate until the motion to vacate is reformed.
“I’m not supporting ANYONE for Speaker until there is a commitment to reform the Motion to Vacate,” Gimenez said in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter. “The coup against Speaker McCarthy was DESPICABLE & must never happen again. No one can govern effectively while being threatened by fringe hostage lawmakers.”
Calling the motion to vacate a “toddler security blanket,” Rep. Kelly Armstrong (R-N.D.) said the cost for his vote for Speaker is a change to the rule.
“Apparently the motion to vacate is now a toddler security blanket. Well, we’re grown up, we need to take it away,” Armstrong said Tuesday on CNBC.
Armstrong told The Hill he is “flexible” on what the change to the rule would look like.
“My answer is, I want to know how the next Speaker is going to ensure what happened yesterday never happens again,” Armstrong said.
Armstrong’s comments echo those from the Main Street Caucus, a prominent House GOP caucus of more than five dozen members, which said the current House rules “will keep a chokehold” on the lower chamber.
“The ability for one person to vacate the Speaker of the House will keep a chokehold on this body through 2024,” the group wrote in a statement Wednesday morning. “Personal politics should never again be used to trump the will of 96 percent of House conservatives. Any candidate for Speaker must explain to us how what happened on Tuesday will never happen again.”
The 96 percent is in reference to McCarthy’s comments Tuesday night, where he pointed out 4 percent of the Republican conference can join Democrats and “dictate who can be the Republican Speaker.”
Centrist Republican Rep. Mike Lawler (N.Y.) indicated a change to the process needs to be made, though he did not detail exactly what that might include.
“No Speaker should have this proverbial gun to their head when trying to do the right thing by the American people, especially in a divided government,” Lawler told reporters Wednesday. “There’s a reality that some folks just don’t seem to grasp and I think moving forward, there needs to be change.”
Even Senate leaders are weighing in on the issue, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who called on the next Speaker to get rid of the motion to vacate, warning the rule will make the next Speaker’s job “impossible.”
McConnell told reporters Wednesday that he didn’t have much advice to give House GOP lawmakers, but that they should give the next Speaker more job security.
“I hope whoever the next Speaker is gets rid of the motion to vacate,” he said.
The House is tasked with making its own rules, which are largely based on “Jefferson’s Manual,” which the House adopted in 1837 as its first set of rules. While a lot of the contents have remained the same throughout the years, the House has the ability to change the rules with a majority vote.
It wasn’t immediately clear when such a rules vote could take place or if it could get enough support to pass.
Prior to Tuesday’s vote, a motion to vacate the Speakership was made on only two occasions, neither of which were successful. In 1910, the House voted on whether to remove then-Speaker John Cannon, who secured enough votes to keep the gavel.
In 2015, then-Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) field a motion to oust then-Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), which was referred to committee and never received a vote.
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A growing chorus of Republicans are demanding the House change or get rid of the rule that paved the way for former Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s (R-Calif.) ouster this week.
McCarthy was removed from the top spot in a 216-210 vote on what’s known as a “motion to vacate,” making him the first Speaker ever to be ousted by the House. All House Democrats and eight Republicans voted to remove the Speaker’s gavel from the California Republican.
As part of the dramatic, 15-ballot election that handed McCarthy the gavel in January, the former Speaker agreed to lower the threshold to force a vote on a motion to vacate from five to one — which allowed Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) to single-handedly call for the vote this week.
Now, Republicans furious at the mutiny want to make sure that can’t happen again.
Rep. Carlos Gimenez (R-Fla.) said Wednesday he will withhold support for a new Speaker candidate until the motion to vacate is reformed.
“I’m not supporting ANYONE for Speaker until there is a commitment to reform the Motion to Vacate,” Gimenez said in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter. “The coup against Speaker McCarthy was DESPICABLE & must never happen again. No one can govern effectively while being threatened by fringe hostage lawmakers.”
Calling the motion to vacate a “toddler security blanket,” Rep. Kelly Armstrong (R-N.D.) said the cost for his vote for Speaker is a change to the rule.
“Apparently the motion to vacate is now a toddler security blanket. Well, we’re grown up, we need to take it away,” Armstrong said Tuesday on CNBC.
Armstrong told The Hill he is “flexible” on what the change to the rule would look like.
“My answer is, I want to know how the next Speaker is going to ensure what happened yesterday never happens again,” Armstrong said.
Armstrong’s comments echo those from the Main Street Caucus, a prominent House GOP caucus of more than five dozen members, which said the current House rules “will keep a chokehold” on the lower chamber.
“The ability for one person to vacate the Speaker of the House will keep a chokehold on this body through 2024,” the group wrote in a statement Wednesday morning. “Personal politics should never again be used to trump the will of 96 percent of House conservatives. Any candidate for Speaker must explain to us how what happened on Tuesday will never happen again.”
The 96 percent is in reference to McCarthy’s comments Tuesday night, where he pointed out 4 percent of the Republican conference can join Democrats and “dictate who can be the Republican Speaker.”
Centrist Republican Rep. Mike Lawler (N.Y.) indicated a change to the process needs to be made, though he did not detail exactly what that might include.
“No Speaker should have this proverbial gun to their head when trying to do the right thing by the American people, especially in a divided government,” Lawler told reporters Wednesday. “There’s a reality that some folks just don’t seem to grasp and I think moving forward, there needs to be change.”
Even Senate leaders are weighing in on the issue, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who called on the next Speaker to get rid of the motion to vacate, warning the rule will make the next Speaker’s job “impossible.”
McConnell told reporters Wednesday that he didn’t have much advice to give House GOP lawmakers, but that they should give the next Speaker more job security.
“I hope whoever the next Speaker is gets rid of the motion to vacate,” he said.
The House is tasked with making its own rules, which are largely based on “Jefferson’s Manual,” which the House adopted in 1837 as its first set of rules. While a lot of the contents have remained the same throughout the years, the House has the ability to change the rules with a majority vote.
It wasn’t immediately clear when such a rules vote could take place or if it could get enough support to pass.
Prior to Tuesday’s vote, a motion to vacate the Speakership was made on only two occasions, neither of which were successful. In 1910, the House voted on whether to remove then-Speaker John Cannon, who secured enough votes to keep the gavel.
In 2015, then-Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) field a motion to oust then-Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), which was referred to committee and never received a vote.
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The Real Story of How Kevin McCarthy Lost Power | Charlie's Shots
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Watch the Bulwark's Charlie Sykes on the self-inflicted collapse of Kevin McCarthy's leadership within the Republican Party. McCarthy's historically short Speakership was a study in political opportunism, misguided alliances, and a blatant disregard for democratic norms. From his desperate alliances with the Freedom Caucus to last-ditch appeal for Democratic support, McCarthy was a leader so consumed by ambition that he lost sight of principle. In the end, he was distrusted by all factions.
The turmoil within the Republican Party isn't just an internal right — it's a ticking time bomb with implications for the entire country.
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Steve Schmidt explains why Kevin McCarthy deserved to be being ousted as Speaker | The Warning
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Steve Schmidt reacts to Kevin McCarthy being ousted as Speaker of the House. Steve explains that no one should feel sorry for Kevin as he repeatedly betrayed his principles to support former President Donald Trump.
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Trump Won't Rule Out Speakership: 'I Would Do It'
While former President Donald Trump said he is "focused" on running for president, he would not rule out being the GOP speaker of the House on Wednesday.
"A lot of people have been calling me about speaker," Trump told reporters before heading into the courtroom for Day 3 of his $250 million civil trial. "All I can say is we'll do whatever is best for country and for the Republican Party.
"We have some great, great people."
Reporters noted Trump did not rule out becoming speaker if he was asked, admitting only that there are a lot of people asking.
"A lot of people have asked me about it," Trump continued. "I'm focused. You know, we're leading — I'm sure you don't read too much in the papers — but we're leading by like 50 points for president.
"My focus is totally on that."
House rules do permit a nonmember to be the speaker, but it has not been done before. Trump stressed only that he will "help" the GOP in any way possible in terms of the currently vacant position.
"If I can help them during the process, I would do it," he said. "But we have some great people in the Republican Party that could do a great job as speaker."
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., and other Trump backers in the House have floated Trump's name.
"I think she's a wonderful woman," Trump said, noting she is not the only one calling him to ask him to save the House. "A lot of other people have called for that, too."
Ultimately, it is about saving America, Trump concluded, before heading into the courtroom.
"I'll do whatever it is to help, but my focus, my total focus is being president and quite honestly making America great again, because we are living in a country in decline," Trump said, turning to the campaign mantras he often repeats at his political rallies.
"This is a country that's failing badly. We're not respected in the world. Interest rates are through the roof. Taxes are through the roof. Inflation is horrible, what it's done to us: It's eating us alive. Energy is now over $5. It was at $1.87. It's over $5. What's happened to our country with Afghanistan — that horrible removal, the most embarrassing moment, I think, in our country's history.
"So, I'm running for president. I'm up 40-50 points and more in some cases. But whatever I can do to help with regard to speaker.
"By the way, I'm also leading Biden by a lot. If I wasn't, I wouldn't have trials like this."
Trump Won't Rule Out Speakership: 'I Would Do It'
While former President Donald Trump said he is "focused" on running for president, he would not rule out being the GOP speaker of the House on Wednesday.
"A lot of people have been calling me about speaker," Trump told reporters before heading into the courtroom for Day 3 of his $250 million civil trial. "All I can say is we'll do whatever is best for country and for the Republican Party.
"We have some great, great people."
Reporters noted Trump did not rule out becoming speaker if he was asked, admitting only that there are a lot of people asking.
"A lot of people have asked me about it," Trump continued. "I'm focused. You know, we're leading — I'm sure you don't read too much in the papers — but we're leading by like 50 points for president.
"My focus is totally on that."
House rules do permit a nonmember to be the speaker, but it has not been done before. Trump stressed only that he will "help" the GOP in any way possible in terms of the currently vacant position.
"If I can help them during the process, I would do it," he said. "But we have some great people in the Republican Party that could do a great job as speaker."
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., and other Trump backers in the House have floated Trump's name.
"I think she's a wonderful woman," Trump said, noting she is not the only one calling him to ask him to save the House. "A lot of other people have called for that, too."
Ultimately, it is about saving America, Trump concluded, before heading into the courtroom.
"I'll do whatever it is to help, but my focus, my total focus is being president and quite honestly making America great again, because we are living in a country in decline," Trump said, turning to the campaign mantras he often repeats at his political rallies.
"This is a country that's failing badly. We're not respected in the world. Interest rates are through the roof. Taxes are through the roof. Inflation is horrible, what it's done to us: It's eating us alive. Energy is now over $5. It was at $1.87. It's over $5. What's happened to our country with Afghanistan — that horrible removal, the most embarrassing moment, I think, in our country's history.
"So, I'm running for president. I'm up 40-50 points and more in some cases. But whatever I can do to help with regard to speaker.
"By the way, I'm also leading Biden by a lot. If I wasn't, I wouldn't have trials like this."
DIY-HP-LED
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It would be the perfect ending for the GOP, Donald riding the screaming elephant over the cliff and into the abyss. Of course, he would demand their support for his upcoming trial in DC, even ordering them to storm the courthouse, if they won't take a bullet for him, they would be RINOs!
It would be fucking chaos and a fiasco of unimaginable proportions, if you thought the house was dysfunctional now, wait!
Even though not elected, it is still a public office and covered by the 14th amendment too...
printer
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And nobody has been able to make the 14th stick on him yet. It would be a total shit show with him as speaker.It would be the perfect ending for the GOP, Donald riding the screaming elephant over the cliff and into the abyss. Of course, he would demand their support for his upcoming trial in DC, even ordering them to storm the courthouse, if they won't take a bullet for him, they would be RINOs!
It would be fucking chaos and a fiasco of unimaginable proportions, if you thought the house was dysfunctional now, wait!
Even though not elected, it is still a public office and covered by the 14th amendment too...
DIY-HP-LED
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Him as speaker would force the issue on the SCOTUS immediately, I figure they want decisions and arguments from state courts first before becoming involved, since there is time before the primaries begin. We all know what would happen with him as speaker, the country would be held hostage and people would starve to death FFS. It would be Trump whine time all the time as he freaked out about losing his money in NY and trying to wiggle out of accountability for his crimes. It would be, give me a pardon for everything, or I shut the government down said to Biden in public! Any republican who said a peep would be snowed under with death threats.
Budzbuddha
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topcat
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Ha! He'll testify, too.
Budzbuddha
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He can barely hold a water bottle ….. so what’s he gonna do with the gavel ?
Budzbuddha
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Trump be like …..
