Recieved clones in poor health how to fix them?

Brettz

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I didnt buffer my coco because was told had enuff in my tap water and nutrients. Clearly wasnt enough.
 

nxsov180db

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It's an overall deficiency, not just calcium and/or magnesium. 1.2 is too light. Try 1.7-1.8, flush it through to bump up the medium EC..
 

ec121

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I didnt buffer my coco because was told had enuff in my tap water and nutrients. Clearly wasnt enough.
If you don't buffer, the coco steals Ca and Mg from the nutrient mix which then doesn't become available to the plant. As for 1.7 & 1.8, I don't even hit those numbers in flower, but certainly you can condition plants to accept high EC feeds.
 

Brettz

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Yeah if you were to just start feeding with water only that's how the plants would look after several days or so.. So no specific element, its all of them lol.
So whats plan to get them bak thriving? You not think 1.8 ec quite high for small stressed out plant.
 

Brettz

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If you don't buffer, the coco steals Ca and Mg from the nutrient mix which then doesn't become available to the plant. As for 1.7 & 1.8, I don't even hit those numbers in flower, but certainly you can condition plants to accept high EC feeds.
Yeh i think thats abit to high. Especially after reading runn offs. Whats going in is similar to whats coming out.. so not really asking for more. If i was feedin 1.4 ec an run off was 0.6-1 then yeh up the feed.. i like to here other coco growers thoughts.
 

ec121

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Yeah if you were to just start feeding with water only that's how the plants would look after several days or so.. So no specific element, its all of them lol.
If it were all of them, it would show all deficiencies. I don't think he was feeding just water.
 

nxsov180db

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If it were all of them, it would show all deficiencies. I don't think he was feeding just water.
was just giving an example, that its not one specific element its lacking. That's exactly what an underfed veg plant looks like. The runoff is the same as the feed because those small plants don't drink too much, so some water is evaporated, leaving a little salt behind.
 

ec121

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Yeh i think thats abit to high. Especially after reading runn offs. Whats going in is similar to whats coming out.. so not really asking for more. If i was feedin 1.4 ec an run off was 0.6-1 then yeh up the feed.. i like to here other coco growers thoughts.
If they were my plants, depending on how they were looking today, I'd keep the EC the same and bump feeding to twice a day.
 

nxsov180db

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So whats plan to get them bak thriving? You not think 1.8 ec quite high for small stressed out plant.
My clones get rooted in 2.2+ flower nutes, from there they get transplanted and fed 2.0 or so veg nutes. I'm actually going to start feeding them initially with 3.0 to get the medium EC up..
 

Brettz

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If the EC of the runoff falls, to 0.7, then your plant needs more nutrients. What you’re looking for is the run off to come out at around the same EC as it goes in..

And thats what my plantsare doing.
Copy an pasted from

Il post pics.up tomorrow growmies.
 

ec121

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was just giving an example, that its not one specific element its lacking. That's exactly what an underfed veg plant looks like. The runoff is the same as the feed because those small plants don't drink too much, so some water is evaporated, leaving a little salt behind.
An underfed veg plant would certainly show a N deficiency and this doesn't have that. The chlorosis is interveinal. He said he's been feeding for a week if I recall correctly, but wasn't adding calmag and didn't buffer the coco.
 

Brettz

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An underfed veg plant would certainly show a N deficiency and this doesn't have that. The chlorosis is interveinal. He said he's been feeding for a week if I recall correctly, but wasn't adding calmag and didn't buffer the coco.
Yeh thats correct and i normally buffer the coco as coco holds on to the cal an mag. Cation exchange.
This time becaus ei swapes nutrients i was told there was enough cal mag in the base nutes. But clearly looks like there wasnt
 

ec121

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My clones get rooted in 2.2+ flower nutes, from there they get transplanted and fed 2.0 or so veg nutes. I'm actually going to start feeding them initially with 3.0 to get the medium EC up..
Well, yes, clones are conditioned to take the same EC as the mother plant is conditioned to take.
 

coreywebster

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Light stress.
Up temps to 80f

And just because roots come out the bottom doesn't mean you need to pot up.
They explore and poking out the drain holes doesn't mean anything
 

ec121

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Yeh thats correct and i normally buffer the coco as coco holds on to the cal an mag. Cation exchange.
This time becaus ei swapes nutrients i was told there was enough cal mag in the base nutes. But clearly looks like there wasnt
Regardless of the nutrient line, the coco needs to be fed first before any plants go into it. If a nutrient line has a lot of calmag, then it just means you don't need a separate calmag additive, but you still have to buffer.
 

Brettz

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Light stress.
Up temps to 80f

And just because roots come out the bottom doesn't mean you need to pot up.
They explore and poking out the drain holes doesn't mean anything
Needed potting up mate. I dont pot up wen i see roots out bottom i wait a werk after that. Root ball was good.
Been growing five years. Jus stil figuring out every deficienecy as alot syptoms are similar...
 
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