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dwc420letsgo

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Coco is much easier than happy frog. If it dries out, coco doesn't go hydrophobic. I am feeding around 2.3ec lately everything green in coco
 

dwc420letsgo

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+2 on the lights being too much. I have a gavita 1700e and run it at 50% in veg. 600w can be a lot if not dialed in.
 

conor c

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Unbuffered coco contains all sorts of stuff. But even high quality buffered coco is not blank, it naturally contains a lot of K , which is good.
But it doesn't contain much else.
So that EC is not a full balanced nutrient profile

It's not soil, it requires feeding daily as others have said.

All you need to do is mix up a base nutrient to about 1.2-1.4 ec and ph it to 5.8-6.2 and feed every day in veg and preferably multiple times a day in flower.

Your under LED so you want to be keeping it mid 80s in veg.

With that light I'd be running at 50% or less or raising it , then bumping it to 100% in flower.

All this has been mentioned, but I thought I'd consolidate the important bits.

You really should read the link mick posted.
Yeah from what i gather with some coco you gotta wash excess salt outta it salt as in common salt as it can have alot in it?
 

DanKiller

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Salts as in nutes, not normal salt..
Every element that has a crystalized structure is some type of salt, unlike rocks.
When you buffer coco you exchange a lot of K nutrient "salt crystals" with Mg and Ca,
The washing is to make sure you can create a good balanced npr to your plants when you start with a blank medium such as coco.
Also you wanna get rid of fine coco dust which
Is not so good for air/water exchanges in that buffer process.
All in all coco is a brilliant medium, for new growers I recommend not growing in 100% coco as it's more responsibility on the grower and can lead to problems fast.
For me, a good coco, peat, ewc mix is always good and takes care of itself a good amount of time before grower input is needed.
 

coreywebster

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Yeah from what i gather with some coco you gotta wash excess salt outta it salt as in common salt as it can have alot in it?
Yeah sodium I think, from the way it's processed, which is basically filled up on a beach in many cases. Depends where its from and who it's made for.
 

coreywebster

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This is just crazy. How can growing in coco possibly be easier than growing in happy frog?
I mean I'd argue that I know what's in my coco and what it needs, vs guessing what's left in happy frog and what nutrient levels I need as time goes on.

Anything hydroponic takes the guessing away.
But that's just me, grown most types of hydro and never soil.

We can only talk from our experience and I'm sure every seasoned soil grower thinks their method is easiest.
 

pureweed

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All you need to do is mix up a base nutrient to about 1.2-1.4 ec and ph it to 5.8-6.2 and feed every day in veg and preferably multiple times a day in flower.
That sounds good

I gave them starting with 0.0 cal/mag to 0.4, then i went to 0.6 to maybe 1.0, but at 0.6 the medium showed me an EC of 1.6 and when i put in surely not over 1.0 it looked like they were overfed

should i just try?

+ i really fed not much ever

I think i will test the runoff - will tell what it says
 
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conor c

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I mean I'd argue that I know what's in my coco and what it needs, vs guessing what's left in happy frog and what nutrient levels I need as time goes on.

Anything hydroponic takes the guessing away.
But that's just me, grown most types of hydro and never soil.

We can only talk from our experience and I'm sure every seasoned soil grower thinks their method is easiest.
Definitely we will all politely agree to disagree dont get me wrong as ease of growth and quality of the smoke goes coco is very close it is what i would switch to if i ever ditch the dirt imo it is defo the best hydro method overall for sure i just think soil/compost edges it slightly more like you said thats my opinion and its what works for you in the end is what you gonna go with
 

dwc420letsgo

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Definitely we will all politely agree to disagree dont get me wrong as ease of growth and quality of the smoke goes coco is very close it is what i would switch to if i ever ditch the dirt imo it is defo the best hydro method overall for sure i just think soil/compost edges it slightly more like you said thats my opinion and its what works for you in the end is what you gonna go with
I love soil, I have a 2x4 raised bed and a 30gal tote with living soil. But in like a 5 gal pot, I wouldn’t do a soil run
 

coreywebster

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Definitely we will all politely agree to disagree dont get me wrong as ease of growth and quality of the smoke goes coco is very close it is what i would switch to if i ever ditch the dirt imo it is defo the best hydro method overall for sure i just think soil/compost edges it slightly more like you said thats my opinion and its what works for you in the end is what you gonna go with
If I didn't live in a terrace with no garden I'd likely try my hand at organics because I have the utmost respect for the method and the level of knowledge I see on here always impresses me.
 

DanKiller

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Coco is easiest at getting insane results if you know how to and what your doing.
Soil is easiest at just doing nothing and letting things run their course with slight adjustments.
It's a lot more tricky getting coco results in soil no doubt.
Two ways to skin a cat here, every one will go the path life enables them.
I will never run 100% coco, ewc is magic and I need it in my pot :weed:
 

pureweed

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I now gave the 2 ones that doing good a higher concentrates feed as described the one that was under the shower yesterday and another one 2 others i had under the shower idk.
And i gave a few of them a little soil topping (with a lot of nuts (growmix)) seemed to do well on the one in the Back.. so

Do you guys think that it would be poossible that this is really a deficiency???? not to much (i'll try in that direction now)
 

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