The UK Growers Thread!

[Star Dog]

I've had this happen a few times and I allways attributed it to me taking away nutrients from the plant, the older leaves are the least efficient at photosynthesis and eventually just act as water and nutrient stores for the more efficient faster growing new leaves, when the new stuff needs food or water it's far easier for them to grab it from an older leaf where it's allready been metabolised, when we remove them we force the plant to get its food from the root zone which can take abit longer than if it were taking it directly from other parts of the plant. Kind of like us realising we're hungry and going to a fully stocked fridge vs having to go to the shops. Haha weird analogy but i find it fitting. I may be way off but there's my 2 pence dog

Hey bud thanks for this, that situation had crossed my mind, I think it makes sense and maybe or probably made worse by using small pots and 24hrs light?

An observation I've made a number of times now is roots pouring out the bottom of the pots when letting them grow on then after I trim them back heavily the new white roots die back.

Afaik I've ruled out ec/ph/cal/mag so
I've been looking in the wrong place I'll be paying attention to it now.

I raised the light a few days back after a 6hr dark period so I'll see what happened with that, as yet I can't call either way?

 

[Star Dog]

Do any of you guys keep an area for like long term mothers to clone from?

 

[Blue brother]

Hey bud thanks for this, that situation had crossed my mind, I think it makes sense and maybe or probably made worse by using small pots and 24hrs light?

An observation I've made a number of times now is roots pouring out the bottom of the pots when letting them grow on then after I trim them back heavily the new white roots die back.

Afaik I've ruled out ec/ph/cal/mag so
I've been looking in the wrong place I'll be paying attention to it now.

I raised the light a few days back after a 6hr dark period so I'll see what happened with that, as yet I can't call either way?

Yeah totally get what ur saying here about the 24 hour light (high demand) and the small pots (limited stores).

your obeservation makes sense, I would imagine the roots were supplying a need (increased transpiration surface area) once you removed that need, the extra roots become surplus to requirement maybe?

 

[Blue brother]

Do any of you guys keep an area for like long term mothers to clone from?

I have in the past and I am right now as I hunt a few phenos, what you thinking ?

 

[Liamp1603]

Do any of you guys keep an area for like long term mothers to clone from?

I have a small 2x2 tent that I have cut clones before flower and keeping them in there the plan is to cut down the three strains keep 3 small mothers and run 9 plants at a time with a few seeds here and there for variation .... but I carnt bring myself to kill any plants ... I've run the gmo z for about 3 years now and it gets better every run

 

[Liamp1603]

Here's three pictures of the Bluchi v3 plant that I've found ... lowers are stacked with trichomes .... day 43f getting the shogun fertilisers nutrient line up .... in a 2.5 litre plastic pot

 

[lozac123]

Need some help here can someone please break down how much it would cost per watt and based on an 18hour light cycle and 12 hour light cycle please I don't understand electric and usage Thankyou

Hey man, people answered this for you, but teach a man to fish and all that jazz so I just want to break it down, took me a while to get it but now I do it saves a lot of time and some electricity companies are killer- they'll give you a better unit price but charge way more for the standing charge.

So 1kwh is the same as 1000wh, the hour bit is the way they measure electricity. Its 23.66p per unit, a unit is 1kwh.

Per day of a 18 hour cycle, based on a 400w would be:

0.4kwh x 18= 7.2 kwh per day. 7.2kwh x unit rate of £0.2366p= £1.656 per day, plus the standing charge of 64.11p, rounded up works out at £2.30 a day for 18/6.

for 12/12 works out at around £1.78 per day (£1.13 for unit rate plus the 64p standing charge).

 

[Liamp1603]

Hey man, people answered this for you, but teach a man to fish and all that jazz so I just want to break it down, took me a while to get it but now I do it saves a lot of time and some electricity companies are killer- they'll give you a better unit price but charge way more for the standing charge.

So 1kwh is the same as 1000wh, the hour bit is the way they measure electricity. Its 23.66p per unit, a unit is 1kwh.

Per day of a 18 hour cycle, based on a 400w would be:

0.4kwh x 18= 7.2 kwh per day. 7.2kwh x unit rate of £0.2366p= £1.656 per day, plus the standing charge of 64.11p, rounded up works out at £2.30 a day for 18/6.

for 12/12 works out at around £1.78 per day (£1.13 for unit rate plus the 64p standing charge).

Thankyou I'm gna have to read over that a few times before i get my head round it

 

[Blue brother]

Some decently priced leds about atm in the uk.

Has anyone seen these, you hook 1 or 2 regular digi ballasts upto it for 720w could be a good shout if ur just dipping ur toes into leds.

LUMii BLACK2 LED 720/960W 6 Bar Fixture

The LUMii Black2 LED 720/960W 6 Bar Fixture is a full spectrum LED grow light with a maximum PPF output of 2596 µmol/s. Buy online today.

www.londongrow.com

also these from one of the best manufacturers in the game, aimed more to the budget end ( for what you get)

Dimlux Xplore Series 730W

Dimlux has achieved a breakthrough with the Xplore Series, bringing high-quality LED lighting within reach for every grower. This new series reflects Dimlux's unwavering commitment to quality, now available at an affordable price. The Dimlux Xplore Series offers an unprecedented...

hollandhorticulture.co.uk

And finally these, which I'm probs gonna get in the 1000w configuration

Omega Infinity 3.0 Pro 600w LED - Grow Guys

Produces a ground-breaking 3.0 µmol per watt of electricity (1890 µmol/s ppf) Intense and efficient - gets better value-for-money from your energy spend Puts out very little excess heat - makes it much easier to control temperatures Comes in at a ridiculously low price-point Controllable...

growguys.co.uk

I've allways reccomended kingbrite from alibaba for the budget conscious as they use top components but waiting for them from china is a mission

lately after listening to migro and bugbee I'm leaning towards cheaper outlay high par vs higher outlay maximum longevity components.

It would be nice to have all the extra far red infra red and uva but it appears the best bang for the buck is just more par, higher intensity does more for yield and frost than the extended spectrum according to the experts

 

[Liamp1603]

Some decently priced leds about atm in the uk.

Has anyone seen these, you hook 1 or 2 regular digi ballasts upto it for 720w could be a good shout if ur just dipping ur toes into leds.

LUMii BLACK2 LED 720/960W 6 Bar Fixture

The LUMii Black2 LED 720/960W 6 Bar Fixture is a full spectrum LED grow light with a maximum PPF output of 2596 µmol/s. Buy online today.

www.londongrow.com

also these from one of the best manufacturers in the game, aimed more to the budget end ( for what you get)

Dimlux Xplore Series 730W

Dimlux has achieved a breakthrough with the Xplore Series, bringing high-quality LED lighting within reach for every grower. This new series reflects Dimlux's unwavering commitment to quality, now available at an affordable price. The Dimlux Xplore Series offers an unprecedented...

hollandhorticulture.co.uk

And finally these, which I'm probs gonna get in the 1000w configuration

Omega Infinity 3.0 Pro 600w LED - Grow Guys

Produces a ground-breaking 3.0 µmol per watt of electricity (1890 µmol/s ppf) Intense and efficient - gets better value-for-money from your energy spend Puts out very little excess heat - makes it much easier to control temperatures Comes in at a ridiculously low price-point Controllable...

growguys.co.uk

I've allways reccomended kingbrite from alibaba for the budget conscious as they use top components but waiting for them from china is a mission

lately after listening to migro and bugbee I'm leaning towards cheaper outlay high par vs higher outlay maximum longevity components.

It would be nice to have all the extra far red infra red and uva but it appears the best bang for the buck is just more par, higher intensity does more for yield and frost than the extended spectrum according to the experts

I have the omega 600w it's a really good light in a space of around 8 x 4 I have this and a mars hydro tsl2000 running and I've been gettin great results with it ... its a little tricky to assemble as it's not a solid fixture the light fixtures are sort of rails that clip into either sides metal brace to build the light but it's a great fixture

 

[Star Dog]

So that was a week+ straight using mosquito bits and I'm still seeing fungus gnats and live larvea and finding pupae, so yesterday I wrapped the pouches in clingfilm then realised I could've saved myself the trouble by using food bags with the bottom cut out them however it's done now.
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I only pour nutrient into the tray and letting them suck it up so there's no inconveniences feeding them.

I was thinking with bigger plants I could use shopping bags with twist tie to seal them at the top...assuming they die with it?

It's getting on for like 6 weeks now I didn't see any new gnats for around 2 weeks then mon/tues I re potted one of the pouches I'd sealed and a few days later I seen fresh gnats?

I'm hoping it's just a couple of stragglers I know for sure they can take a month plus to hatch. (Pic last week)

That bag hasn't been open in 4/5wks...this is when I wish I'd kept exact dates.

Overall they're 90% gone I've not killed any others for ages in the other pots I just need to be certain before I take them out.

I'd prefer a reliable poison/ chemicals tbh but I'm unable to find anything that kills fungus gnat adults, larvea and eggs and that's safe to use on plants I'm going to smoke,

Have a great weekend folk's

 

[Nutty sKunK]

2nd time in two winters I get a queen wasp hiding out in my tent! Last one I used the hoover on.. this one is in a bit more of a precarious position lol

 

[go go kid]

2nd time in two winters I get a queen wasp hiding out in my tent! Last one I used the hoover on.. this one is in a bit more of a precarious position lol

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DON'T KILL IT, EVERYTHING HAS A RIGHT TO LIVE, JUST USE A GLASS AND PLAYING CARD AND PUT IT SOMEWARE OUT OF THE COLD. THEY WONT HARM YOU

 

[coreywebster]

I worked it out to be the same, if your on a key like I used to be u will pay a higher kWh rate.

I thought they banned that as it penalised the folks with the least money.

 

[Nutty sKunK]

DON'T KILL IT, EVERYTHING HAS A RIGHT TO LIVE, JUST USE A GLASS AND PLAYING CARD AND PUT IT SOMEWARE OUT OF THE COLD. THEY WONT HARM YOU

Aye didn’t kill the last one. Released it but I’m wondering if it’s the same one? Haha

Wasp numbers have been super low the past couple of years so will put her in the garage!

 

[conor c]

2nd time in two winters I get a queen wasp hiding out in my tent! Last one I used the hoover on.. this one is in a bit more of a precarious position lol

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Yeah fair doos for not killing it I hate wasps I don't mind bees but wasps are dicks I get there good for killing pests and such but there aggressive little buggers Ime as for low numbers I keep hearing that yet where I'm at there still flying about they normally would have died off by now but global warming has fucked the seasons up and that's giving them a harder time on the plus side I seen more honey bees this year Vs last

 

[conor c]

I thought they banned that as it penalised the folks with the least money.

Nope it's a barcode they give you instead of a key but same principle as a key fob there still doing pay as you go meters

 

[go go kid]

Aye didn’t kill the last one. Released it but I’m wondering if it’s the same one? Haha

Wasp numbers have been super low the past couple of years so will put her in the garage!

SIMPLE, DON'T GROW SUCH GOOD WEED LOL oops, soz 4 shouting

 

[go go kid]

Yeah fair doos for not killing it I hate wasps I don't mind bees but wasps are dicks I get there good for killing pests and such but there aggressive little buggers Ime as for low numbers I keep hearing that yet where I'm at there still flying about they normally would have died off by now but global warming has fucked the seasons up and that's giving them a harder time on the plus side I seen more honey bees this year Vs last

lucky you, we hardly had any this year, hornets and wasps yes, some as you say, still buisy in the roof. but sad the lack of insects and i live in wales, farming comunity

 

[coreywebster]

Nope it's a barcode they give you instead of a key but same principle as a key fob there still doing pay as you go meters

"However, Chancellor Jeremy Hunt announced that from 1 July 2023 this penalty will end. Prepayment meter households on their supplier's standard variable tariff will no longer pay more than those with credit meters and paying via monthly direct debit.5 Jun 2023"