The UK Growers Thread!

[Fish scale]

Aye need to clean it out so humidity is low in photo.

Righto! Yea it took me a while to decide on what to do so was late to the party. See how they go from now on.

Can you run mother plants under 24/7 or do they need a little rest?

Yeah you can run a mother under 24/7 light, I always do it when I am in veg, with all of my plants in veg. I think they grow slightly faster on 24/7

 

[conor c]

Aye need to clean it out so humidity is low in photo.

Righto! Yea it took me a while to decide on what to do so was late to the party. See how they go from now on.

Can you run mother plants under 24/7 or do they need a little rest?

You can bud it's the cost more than anything that stops folk doing it if you got anything extremely photosensitive then it's the only way think semi autos stuff like that you need high hours and plenty of root space to keep them going

 

[conor c]

Yeah you can run a mother under 24/7 light, I always do it when I am in veg, with all of my plants in veg. I think they grow slightly faster on 24/7

They deffo have tighter internodes that way idk about faster what I think it is is they initiate into bloom faster if they been kept that way so they respond faster to the the drop in light hours more than anything I would say mate so it appears faster ime

 

[Nutty sKunK]

You can bud it's the cost more than anything that stops folk doing it if you got anything extremely photosensitive then it's the only way think semi autos stuff like that you need high hours and plenty of root space to keep them going

Right fair enough, makes sense! I want them slow growing and be on the smaller side on things to manage. So keep it cool long light hrs.

I think I saw star dog trim the rootball of his mother plant once so that could be an option down the line

 

[conor c]

Right fair enough, makes sense! I want them slow growing and be on the smaller side on things to manage. So keep it cool long light hrs.

I think I saw star dog trim the rootball of his mother plant once so that could be an option down the line

Yeah it is always an option just don't go too nuts if your trimming the roots and do too much cos besides it might die it might herm on you as well ages ago some folks used to make seeds by messing with the roots to herm one plant to pollinate another obviously this is a bad idea and should not be encouraged as herms begets herms that's why you don't hear of many doing it now luckily

 

[RobbieP]

If your going to keep mothers id recommend just getting a 18w t5 strip light or 2 , loads cheaper to run 24/7 and will keep mothers plenty happy under them

 

[Nutty sKunK]

If your going to keep mothers id recommend just getting a 18w t5 strip light or 2 , loads cheaper to run 24/7 and will keep mothers plenty happy under them

Sounds like a plan! Give off a little warmth too which should help

 

[Star Dog]

I took these clones about 2 weeks into flowering. How long would u say before the reveg stops and normal leaves grow? Been growing for about 10-14 days now so far

Cheers!

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They're pretty much re vegged ± new growth from those green tipped shoots should be regular growth if not they don't have long.

 

[Star Dog]

Right fair enough, makes sense! I want them slow growing and be on the smaller side on things to manage. So keep it cool long light hrs.

I think I saw star dog trim the rootball of his mother plant once so that could be an option down the line

I defoliate them pretty regularly, presumably it prevents them growing as much as they would without, if the clone is for a mother to clone in future I trim them back to 1st regular growth/shoot on the stem.

I only pruned the roots on that plant because it had been growing in its 4" pot for as far back as I remember (7/8mths+) I didn't want to encourage any root problems being dense and coupled with low temps.

 

[lozac123]

Alright chaps.

Question for you.

My cloner has started making stems black.
There's no slime, no soft stem, no smell and roots are continuing white and pristine.

It happened last set of clones and after I potted them up there's been no issues with them.

And it's happening again.

Water temps are about 66f as its in a cool basement.

Everything on Google says rot , but there's no other signs.

The only thing I can think is there's a metal temp probe in the res , I was once shiny but it's dull now. Wondered if that could cause the blackness.

Any thoughts ?

Some of the last batch were in there a month and still didn't have any discolouration of roots.

Some take that long because of strain and because the air temp is about 72f , due to it been in the basement.
Other strains are knobbling up after 7 days.

It's plain tap water , though I did try some base nutrients that aren't my usual Las run, with them been in there so long.

Edit, after the last batch I fully emptied and sterilised the cloner, pump and sprayers and ran it for a few days before starting fresh

It's an xtream cloner

I havent read any of the replies yet mate so someone may have already answered this, but I was watching a video yesterday on electrodes, and they were putting a current through ham, and it was making it see through. I wonder is your probe doing something similar where its creating a small current, it is running through the plants and corroding them slightly. Apologies for the lack of science terminology, but I do wonder if it was something like this.

To everyone else, I change my water every few days when taking a clone. I find that has been the biggest thing to help things root while keeping them healthy.

 

[coreywebster]

I havent read any of the replies yet mate so someone may have already answered this, but I was watching a video yesterday on electrodes, and they were putting a current through ham, and it was making it see through. I wonder is your probe doing something similar where its creating a small current, it is running through the plants and corroding them slightly. Apologies for the lack of science terminology, but I do wonder if it was something like this.

To everyone else, I change my water every few days when taking a clone. I find that has been the biggest thing to help things root while keeping them healthy.

Interesting theory, though the stems are not in the water, just been sprayed with it, so I don't think the current would pass on.

I was really hoping it was the coating or the corroding of the probe causing it.

But I think now that was wishful thinking.

I had a blocked nozzle so I pulled off one of the manifold spray heads and it was thick with gunk inside.
I'm leaning to something organic or rot, though the roots aren't getting affected and the plants seem to be fine after put into coco.

I'm gonna strip it all down and clean the living shit out of it.

I'll defo be changing the water a lot more regularly.

 

[lozac123]

Interesting theory, though the stems are not in the water, just been sprayed with it, so I don't think the current would pass on.

I was really hoping it was the coating or the corroding of the probe causing it.

But I think now that was wishful thinking.

I had a blocked nozzle so I pulled off one of the manifold spray heads and it was thick with gunk inside.
I'm leaning to something organic or rot, though the roots aren't getting affected and the plants seem to be fine after put into coco.

I'm gonna strip it all down and clean the living shit out of it.

I'll defo be changing the water a lot more regularly.

Likely to be the water in that case man. The other thing that can be a sneaker/ producer of random issues is citric acid as a PH down. Fine in an organic set up, it doesn't work so well in hydro. I was using it as a ph down for a long time there, not thinking it was causing issues. Apparently it can feed bacteria, which would make sense. Every 3-4 days I would need to change the water tank as it would start to smell like something was fermenting. Changed to a phosphoric acid one now and the difference was instant, I am getting 10 days out of water before needing to change it now.

Edit: use bleach when cleaning too man, will remove any lurking mould you cant see

 

[conor c]

Likely to be the water in that case man. The other thing that can be a sneaker/ producer of random issues is citric acid as a PH down. Fine in an organic set up, it doesn't work so well in hydro. I was using it as a ph down for a long time there, not thinking it was causing issues. Apparently it can feed bacteria, which would make sense. Every 3-4 days I would need to change the water tank as it would start to smell like something was fermenting. Changed to a phosphoric acid one now and the difference was instant, I am getting 10 days out of water before needing to change it now.

Edit: use bleach when cleaning too man, will remove any lurking mould you cant see

Lol I wonder if cola would work then as it has plenty of phosphoric acid in it plus c0² in water is a weak carboxylic acid as well mind you it's ph is the same as stomach acid 2.5

 

[lozac123]

Lol I wonder if cola would work then as it has plenty of phosphoric acid in it plus c0² in water is a weak carboxylic acid as well mind you it's ph is the same as stomach acid 2.5

I often wonder things like this. I'd say you could, I am not sure what the build up of the other chemicals in soda might cause though

 

[conor c]

I often wonder things like this. I'd say you could, I am not sure what the build up of the other chemicals in soda might cause though

Yeah that is true I did wonder about that

 

[futurebanjo]

Likely to be the water in that case man. The other thing that can be a sneaker/ producer of random issues is citric acid as a PH down. Fine in an organic set up, it doesn't work so well in hydro. I was using it as a ph down for a long time there, not thinking it was causing issues. Apparently it can feed bacteria, which would make sense. Every 3-4 days I would need to change the water tank as it would start to smell like something was fermenting. Changed to a phosphoric acid one now and the difference was instant, I am getting 10 days out of water before needing to change it now.

Edit: use bleach when cleaning too man, will remove any lurking mould you cant see

i just use this for PH down - £6 for a 250ml bottle, it's really strong though...85% phosphoric acid so its pretty nasty stuff, but it lasts ages due to it being very strong.

Growth Technology - pH Down

Growth Technology - pH Down Growth Technology - pH Down is a concentrated phosphoric acid (81%) that can be used to reduce the pH of almost any liquid it is added to. When growing plants in hydroponics or aeroponics, it is necessary to keep the pH of your nutrient solution within a certain...

www.onestopgrowshop.co.uk

 

[Star Dog]

Hey folk's, my seedlings are 3 weeks gone Sunday
I'm against time here, over the weekend I was getting my tent emptied, tidied and cleaned I need these seedlings potted up asap, I'm 90% there I just need to dig out the HID and hang it and pot them up then I'll be jamming again

They're too crowded I'm on the edge of fkg up with them if I don't get them done soon.


I also got my harvest trimmed at the weekend except the blueberry (it's pish why bother) and got my pots and trays sorted out, coco/perlite sieved out and ready to go again, I'll get the HID hung tonight and start potting the seedlings tomorrow.

Edit...
I'm in a better situation now I'll pot them tomorrow.

 

[Nutty sKunK]

Hey folk's, my seedlings are 3 weeks gone Sunday
I'm against time here, over the weekend I was getting my tent emptied, tidied and cleaned I need these seedlings potted up asap, I'm 90% there I just need to dig out the HID and hang it and pot them up then I'll be jamming again

They're too crowded I'm on the edge of fkg up with them if I don't get them done soon.
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I also got my harvest trimmed at the weekend except the blueberry (it's pish why bother) and got my pots and trays sorted out, coco/perlite sieved out and ready to go again, I'll get the HID hung tonight and start potting the seedlings tomorrow.

Edit...
I'm in a better situation now I'll pot them tomorrow.

Such a lush green!!

 

[Nutty sKunK]

Something that’s been plaguing me for ages and can’t figure out why.

Do you guys notice at the end of flower, last week or two the smells seem to taper off a little?

It seems to me the smelliest point is when they still have a few white hairs.

I’ve kept the temps low so don’t think they are evaporating away.

 

[Star Dog]

I've found a bit earlier is definitely better than a bit later, I used to hold off to allow a bit amber now I cut them as soon as they're ready for more flavour, I'm sure allowing amber is effectively allowing flavour to evaporate making for more earthy/hashy flavours.

If you think about it most plants smells their best at peak flower?
It could be for other reasons but I'm sure my long run of boring weed was in part allowing it to go amber?