If i harvest my bud without flushing for 2 weeks how will it taste?
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panhead
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First off i am not picking on you or pointing you out,what i am grabbing hold of is the misguided belief that most people hold on to about flushing even though the pratice is not solidly backed up by facts,what facts that do support flushing only support the pratice loosely & are never fully explained.
The "chemicals" that everybody is so afraid they might taste are made up from two groups,the macro's are salts & the micro's are elements,in the case of elements no amount of time spent flushing will remove an element,once its there it is there long term,and for the macro's of NPK the vast bulk of these are contained within the root mass,sun leaves & the plant itself.
When ferts are removed from the feeding/watering schedule what is accomplished is to force the plant to send any stored salts & elements to the bud so the bud can keep building itself,even though the plant is using up the "chemicals" it stores within itself durring flushing these stored "chemicals" are still being sent directly to the bud from within the plant,right up to the last day the plant is alive.
panhead
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I might be missing something but This statement makes no sense to me the way its written.The only reason any of you should be flushing is to remove Build up Nutes from Chemical Fertilizers.
If your an organic grower and are Flushing then your a
And you chemical guys using molasses are just as bad.
The difference between organic ferts & chem ferts is that one requires water to release the npk & the other requires microbes to release its npk due to a more complex nature of its make up.
Can you explain what your refering to.
Xare
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Well flushing is a Technique for growers who use chemical fertilizers.
And Molasses is a Technique for growers who use Organics.
But all the time you will see people who don't know what they are doing using Molasses in their Flush or trying to Flush an organic grow.
They dont understand the "why" behind using these Techniques. So they are using them in improper ways.
They think Molasses will make their chemically grown buds "sweeter" haha.
But plants do not eat sugar. Instead in an organic grow the microherd eats the sugar and thrives resulting in converting the organics from the soil into a form which the plants can uptake IE: NPK
This works in an organic grow to make bigger buds and Better tasting buds because of more Terpen production.
If you give your chemical soil grow molasses then you are wasting all that sugar because chem grows do not have a Microherd. Cheimical ferts kill the microherd. But some people seem to think they still have one....
They use molasses anyway and the only benefit they get are trace elements of NPK ect...
Its a waste of money and effort to use Molasses on a chemical grow because its an organic growing technique which is targeting the microherd to promote its vigor.
Especally the people who are chemical grows and they flush with molassas water haha.
The molasses water has nutes in it, its a weak amount but you are trying to flush out Nutes with a weak nute water.
You only need to flush to wash away the build up nute salts that are in the soil. This alows the plant to use up the extra nutes it has stored up in its leaf.
But if your an organic grower you will not have Extra Nutes in your soil Same if your an Hydro Grower who uses a PPM meter to monitor his nute level.
Those growers do not need to flush because they have no extra nutes to wash away.
But all the time you will see people who don't know what they are doing using Molasses in their Flush or trying to Flush an organic grow.
They dont understand the "why" behind using these Techniques. So they are using them in improper ways.
They think Molasses will make their chemically grown buds "sweeter" haha.
But plants do not eat sugar. Instead in an organic grow the microherd eats the sugar and thrives resulting in converting the organics from the soil into a form which the plants can uptake IE: NPK
This works in an organic grow to make bigger buds and Better tasting buds because of more Terpen production.
If you give your chemical soil grow molasses then you are wasting all that sugar because chem grows do not have a Microherd. Cheimical ferts kill the microherd. But some people seem to think they still have one....
They use molasses anyway and the only benefit they get are trace elements of NPK ect...
Its a waste of money and effort to use Molasses on a chemical grow because its an organic growing technique which is targeting the microherd to promote its vigor.
Especally the people who are chemical grows and they flush with molassas water haha.
The molasses water has nutes in it, its a weak amount but you are trying to flush out Nutes with a weak nute water.
You only need to flush to wash away the build up nute salts that are in the soil. This alows the plant to use up the extra nutes it has stored up in its leaf.
But if your an organic grower you will not have Extra Nutes in your soil Same if your an Hydro Grower who uses a PPM meter to monitor his nute level.
Those growers do not need to flush because they have no extra nutes to wash away.
Napolean420
Active Member
Is it truly fact that chem ferts kill the microherd? Can you direct me towards where you heard that information. 'cause what in fertz would kill microherds?
Napolean420
Active Member
exactlyyyyyyyy
panhead
Well-Known Member
I was mainly refering to your comment that organic plants do not require flushing while non organics do,i dont wish to debate the benifits of organic vs non organic in this thread as it will derail the topic at hand, which is flushing.Well flushing is a Technique for growers who use chemical fertilizers.
And Molasses is a Technique for growers who use Organics.
But all the time you will see people who don't know what they are doing using Molasses in their Flush or trying to Flush an organic grow.
They dont understand the "why" behind using these Techniques. So they are using them in improper ways.
They think Molasses will make their chemically grown buds "sweeter" haha.
But plants do not eat sugar. Instead in an organic grow the microherd eats the sugar and thrives resulting in converting the organics from the soil into a form which the plants can uptake IE: NPK
This works in an organic grow to make bigger buds and Better tasting buds because of more Terpen production.
If you give your chemical soil grow molasses then you are wasting all that sugar because chem grows do not have a Microherd. Cheimical ferts kill the microherd. But some people seem to think they still have one....
They use molasses anyway and the only benefit they get are trace elements of NPK ect...
Its a waste of money and effort to use Molasses on a chemical grow because its an organic growing technique which is targeting the microherd to promote its vigor.
Especally the people who are chemical grows and they flush with molassas water haha.
The molasses water has nutes in it, its a weak amount but you are trying to flush out Nutes with a weak nute water.
You only need to flush to wash away the build up nute salts that are in the soil. This alows the plant to use up the extra nutes it has stored up in its leaf.
But if your an organic grower you will not have Extra Nutes in your soil Same if your an Hydro Grower who uses a PPM meter to monitor his nute level.
Those growers do not need to flush because they have no extra nutes to wash away.
Can you point me twords any bias controled studies on the effects of flushed vs non flushed in different grow mediums ?,or any evidence showing that this method has a bearing on the outcome in any grow medium? if so im allways willing to read & learn.
Im not one to take this issue of flushing on faith as the entire method of flushing goes against the principals of basic botany.
alg007
New Member
no no no no no
smokeybandit22
Well-Known Member
only recentyly started to flush-hydro-no diff in taste- but sometimes do get headaches from unflushed gals-maybe just me. In fact the times I did flush, I noticed they grew faster and more vigorously like I gave them nutes, not plain water.
panhead
Well-Known Member
A little explaination of your disaproval would go along way twords validation.
As far as i know nobody anywhere has done a test with proper test,with control creteria met in order to gauge bud growth patterns in flushed plants against plants fed up until harvest.
Why so many swear by flushing plants when there is not one shred of scientific evidence to back up these claims is beyond me.
BadDog40
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I've had my doubts about the whole flushing concept for quite a while. I'm not a plant expert but it seems to me plants metabolize the nutrients and convert it to growth so you wouldnt have the same chemicals in the buds. And if you did what would flushing accomplish anyway? If the chemicals are in the plant already giving them straight water the last week or two is not going to get those chemicals out, how would it?
But then some of the nutrient companies recommend flushing so who the hell knows.
But then some of the nutrient companies recommend flushing so who the hell knows.
Napolean420
Active Member
Flushing allows the plant to metabolize more of its stored nutes so the direct result would be less chems in your budz