Super Thrive

[DubB83]

Now, that being said. Who the fuck cares really who or what product is better then the next. Lets face it. There are thirty four million companies all selling basically the same stuff. HOWEVER!! maybe the country you live in only has product A or Product B

My problem with this statement is that you should care because your plant does... If you didn't care you would not use organic ferts to begin with.

Also Thrive Alive is not as concentrated so you actually use 2-3ml per liter, giving you a bit more of a buffer than one unmeasurable drop making it safer for your plant due to the built in protection barrier.

 

[DubB83]

SUPERthrive sure does have one technologically advanced website too, photocopies of their sales literature from the 80's LOL! The company seems barely creditable to me compared to their competition. Also are you saying that a supplement created 20 years ago is as technologically advanced as the best rated OMRI vitamin B1 supplement today, Thrive Alive B1?

 

[Brick Top]

This means nothing to me. What experience do you have with marijuana and superthrive and do you have any pictures?

I will believe what four members of my family who hold degrees in botany say over the personal opinion of some unknown person like yourself.

How many members of your family hold degrees in botany?

Does your family own a nursery like we do?

Did you start growing pot in 1972 or 1973 like I did? Were you even alive then?

I am not here to argue with anyone. I saw misinformation so I corrected it. I did not read every single message in the thread and did not see where you or anyone else corrected what they had previously incorrectly stated and I only replied to what I read.

So it is simple. I stated absolute facts that almost every single plant has certain basic functions that are alike and they rely on certain things to be able to perform those functions and greater amounts of certain things will allow them to perform those functions more efficiently and at a faster rate.

That is a basic fact about just about every single thing that grows and it is meaningless if someone is talking about wheat or tomatoes or corn or azaleas or marijuana because the exact same basic functions take place in all of them and in just about every single other growing thing and what works for one will work for the others too.

If you or anyone else here has no interest in facts and prefers personal opinions and inaccurate information and misperceptions and they want to ignore what I said that is cool and the gang with me.

I see that you joined this month and have not logged off the site, I look at your threads and read your posts. I feel that you are a newb to this hobby as you have been on for less than a month and have nothing more than garbage posts and are posting all day long every day. Where are pictures of what you can do? What do I have to base your credibility on?

I leave my computer on 24 hours a day unless the electricity goes out and I do not bother to log off because I see no reason to have to log back in each time I go to the site.

If you think I am a noob you could not be more wrong if you attempted to do so. I started growing pot in either 1972 or 1973. I have been a member of numerous herb websites over the years and are currently a member of four though one I very seldom visit because it is dead most of the time.

I have nothing more than garbage posts? If that is so please explain why so many people have sent me +reps with thank you messages and good info messages and other positive things said and why I receive so may PM’s asking me questions and advice and telling me how much I taught them and thanking me for links I sent to other sites filled with growing information. If my messages are garbage posts explain all that to me.

I post much of the day and sometimes late at night too because I have all the time in the world. I retired almost five years ago now and I spend a great deal of time online. Is that some sort of crime or some sort of evidence that I do not have any experience?

Where are my pictures? I do not upload pictures of what I grow. I do not even ever mention if I am currently growing something or not. I have managed to go roughly 37 years without having any trouble and I see no reason to broadcast what I may or may not currently be doing or posting evidence.

I have been very cautious over the last 37 years and I intend to remain that way and I will not change that because you want to see some sort of proof that I grow before you will accept facts.

Also I do not need my ego boosted by posting pictures of what I grow so people can say wow, great job. That is what kids and immature people and people who need their ego boosted by showing off and foolish people do.

My credibility is actually no more able to be verified than yours or anyone else’s. You could post dozens and dozens of pictures of fantastic plants but as many as there are to be found on various herb sites online for all anyone knows you are a cop who downloaded those pictures elsewhere or were scanned copies of pictures taken at busts you were involved in and you uploaded them to make yourself appear as if you are a grower and then try to win people’s confidence and pump them for sensitive information.

In short pictures are not proof of anything because anyone can post any pictures they find and claim them to be theirs. Credibility is not created by pictures that could have come from any one of hundreds and hundreds or more different sources and not from the person who claimed them to be theirs.

With the background you have you should know what OMRI is and why this product should not be in the organic section. This leads me to believe your knowlege is all internet based.

As I said it appears that as of yet no one knows the actual makeup of Superthrive and if it is all organic, partially organic or not organic. I never stated it was or it was not. I simply said that no one seems to know for sure so since that is the case no one can accurately say is does not belong in this forum and regardless it is in this forum and people are talking about it so what do you want, to have the thread moved just because it is possible that Superthrive is not 100% organic?

Why not just chill and let people talk about what they seem to want to talk about even if the thread was begun in the wrong forum by accident or by ignorance?

Where is the proof on marijuana or a similar plant is what I'm asking you and your not showing.

It appears that in your mind if something is not said or shown on this particular site it cannot be real and it cannot be valid.

I have been a member of numerous her sites over the years and I have followed many threads of people who used Superthrive who went into detail about its use and posted pictures of their results.

If you are to lazy or to ignorant to be able to go to any other herb sites or to sites where very big name growers and breeders have written about various products such as Superthrive that is your problem and not mine but just because you evidently have never done those things does not mean the proof is not there to be found.

Rather than wasting time and bandwidth flaming someone who only told facts maybe you should consider researching some and learning the many things that you now do not know and will never learn if you do not put forth the effort to learn them.

Since you have made it more than just abundantly clear that you have no interest in facts I will not waste my time saying more in this thread or waste anyone else’s time by writing something they will then read. You can say anything you wish to regardless of how inaccurate it is and I will not correct you again in this thread.

You have your personal opinion and your inaccurate information and your misperceptions and you have made it perfectly clear to one and all that to you they alone are true and accurate and that you are not in any way going to accept any facts that shatter your self created beliefs.

So go ahead and have fun misleading people and telling them things that are not true and making inaccurate claims if that is how you get your kicks. I will not waste any more time on someone so totally close-minded.

Have a nice day ...... message ends.

 

[DubB83]

You can write all you want, call me a cop that's cool... whatever. Claim anything you want, but to me your are not credible. The people I help on this site know better, unfortunately your head is so far up your ass you can't look at a superior product that is certified organic by OMRI and is top rated over SUPERthrive. Those sir are facts, not opinions.

I'll admit that the supplement appears it would work on plants and that older growers like George Cervantes will use a product from their time that they had tried and it worked so they recommend it. Now if the herd mentality works as I believe everyone is going to copy it because it worked for so-and-so. But there are safer and better methods available.

What I am saying is Thrive Alive B1 is more advanced and is a newer product as well as OMRI listed. SUPERthrive's website hasn't even been changed since the mid 90's.
(more facts and not opinion)

Do you still watch black and white TV or do you have a color set? Get with the times.

Thrive Alive B1 is a much safer supplement than SUPERthrive. Think about dosage, two drops of SUPERthrive may kill your plant or mutate it. Convexly, 2-3ml of Thrive Alive B1 to each liter is much safer and is more diluted. It is also harder to mutate your plants or burn them with a true organic supplement.
(more facts and not opinion)

I'm a cop, that is the dumbest thing you have stated yet. Try and find my work and pictures anywhere else, I had older grows on Overgrow.com also... If the pictures are from a bust, then why do my plants progress throughout the gallery, don't you think they would be uprooted and burned? I'm such a good cop I'm trying to help people not poison their plants with SUPERthrive and use a safer product to produce organic buds.

Why not just chill and let people talk about what they seem to want to talk about even if the thread was begun in the wrong forum by accident or by ignorance?

Because it is off topic of what the OP wanted to know. Is it organic or not was the question I believe.

Thrive Alive B1 is your only real choice for a supplement of this type if your going organic.
(more facts and not opinion)

Fact is I am a terminally ill patient, I post what I do to teach people how to do it, and I post pictures because not everyone can read and understand what is going on without visual aid. If you think that is silly then everyone who thanks me and all my +rep are confused. I grow 100% organically and would never use SUPERthrive. What good would my knowledge do if I didn't share it before I die? After I die you can bad mouth me all you want, not like I'll be able to read it anyway.

Go organic, your plants and taste buds will thank you.

You also have to admit that 80% of the material on the SUPERthrive site is about TREES.
(more facts and not opinion)

End of story, just the facts no misleading here.

 

[xsevenplaguesx]

whats with all the yab jib jab diddle do??

lets just grow some weed man..

superthrive may not be organic but it sure helps when you need a correction

i didnt pay for mine anyway

oh and i hear youre only supposed to use it during veg..cause it tastes nasty when you flower with it..

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

yo dub, you just a fool man! you think you some kinda guru or something...you think a few pictures of your little mickey mouse operation impresses me? hey not only soma but dj short uses superthrive ...you think you are superior to them? do some research buddy and leave your lame comments to yourself.

 

[KP2]

funny. thrive alive which has ONE more vitamin (hahahahaha) is more advanced? better because it's diluted? who would put a drop of superthrive directly on their plants, lets see some hands.

no one?

didn't think so.

you dilute those drops in water, burning and killing are not an issue if you follow instructions. superthrive has been around for many many years. there's no way in hell i'd pay three times more for a 3x weaker product, that's just asinine. superthrive is a root booster, it's not a fertilizer. it doesn't burn, it doesn't mutate. if it does, you fucked up, not the product.

 

[brickie617]

has anyone ever used gravity? i read you put it in 2 weeks before cutting and it is supposed to make your yield 50% bigger and 40%denser.....anyone?

 

[Thelynx]

i've heard about gravity and i heard it works great..also cuts down time on flowering but i think you start to use it once you hit flowering, also is thrive alive b1 red similar to foxfarms bigbloom (0.01-0.3-0.7) i feel like these products such as superthrive and thrive alive and big bloom are all similar as far as those values. i dont want to go out and get thrive alive if big bloom is similar and i already have this..my plants are seedlings and i dont want to give them grow or tiger bloom and i was originally going to go for superthrive but evidence here suggests i should go with thrive alive is green or red better and is it worth getting if i already have the big bloom from foxfarm? any help would be great thanks fellas

 

[Ellis D. Williams]

The red ThriveAlive isn't organic but the green is, I don't know which one is "better" though. I have Big Bloom and I don't think they are the same thing.

 

[DubB83]

yo dub, you just a fool man! you think you some kinda guru or something...you think a few pictures of your little mickey mouse operation impresses me? hey not only soma but dj short uses superthrive ...you think you are superior to them? do some research buddy and leave your lame comments to yourself.

You sir are trying to antagonise me, are you bored and looking for a flame war? Your directly misquoting me and twisting my words. That being said lets get back on topic.

Now lets talk about how young plants grow, they use these auxins to create new growth. I do not trust concentrated "synthetic auxins" and I am still waiting on a full ingredient listing of SUPERthrive's formula to compare to Thrive Alive's formula. If I'm wrong then so is OMRI. Nearly all supplements are "mostly organic" and the only part I do not agree with is the mostly part. Synthetic auxins can cause your plant to mutate, if you have a 100 gal reservoir then I say good to use what ever you want, obviously your growing for quantity not quality and it would probobly work well in a large system. I do not recommend such a mixture if your growing organic connesuer quality marijuana in a small system.

You guys are right that all plants work the same, but not all additives work the same is my point. An all organic compound is harder to affect your plant negativley is all.

I do not care what you think a person in my condition is capable of doing as far as a modest growing rig, but I can tell you it is amazing my family and the ones who help me on a daily basis. It is not perfect but I do not have all the time in the world as you do. Since you have so much spare time why aren't you spending it with family or friends or tending to plants? Something that makes you happy and not trying to antogonize someone over such a small thing as a nutrient supplement. Life is short, you should be happy.

I do not think I am some super grower, but definately more interested in organics in direct relation to good quality herb than quantity.

 

[DubB83]

The red ThriveAlive isn't organic but the green is, I don't know which one is "better" though. I have Big Bloom and I don't think they are the same thing.

The difference between the red and green is one is meant for purified water and the other is meant for hard water. They are both OMRI Listed making them both certified organic. It is not the same thing, big bloom is a flowering nutrient.

 

[Ellis D. Williams]

Only the green is OMRI listed according to my product catalog and the website http://www.technaflora.com/products.php?product=16

 

[DubB83]

Damn, then I need to get that shit...

I thought they both were. That is what I get.

Thank you for the correction.

EDIT:
I just went and read the bottle they are both "Natural and Organic" but the red has natural iron added and they just add "fortified with mineral salts" to the label so you know to use it with filtered water.

They are in fact both OMRI Listed.

 

[Ellis D. Williams]

haha yea I just recently found out the difference. I am actually picking up some of the green this week so we'll see how it turns out.

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

dub, who are you and what do you know about what i do and what condition i am in. you post so much bullshit facts. dude, your misleading the masses with your bullshit. half your so called facts is wrong!!!!!and if i remember correctly, you started bashing me on another post for no reason.so do growers a favor and keep your bullshit to yourself. do some real research and listen to the tried and true...what your trying to learn, I'm trying to forget!!!!put that stupid "omri" CHEATSHEET down and do your homkework before you post bullshit then retract it later and the try to make yourself to be intelligent! COME ON!!!!!

 

[DubB83]

dub, who are you and what do you know about what i do and what condition i am in. you post so much bullshit facts. dude, your misleading the masses with your bullshit. half your so called facts is wrong!!!!!and if i remember correctly, you started bashing me on another post for no reason.so do growers a favor and keep your bullshit to yourself. do some real research and listen to the tried and true...what your trying to learn, I'm trying to forget!!!!put that stupid "omri" CHEATSHEET down and do your homkework before you post bullshit then retract it later and the try to make yourself to be intelligent! COME ON!!!!!

Prove anything I have said about anything on here wrong. I am at least willing to admit I may be wrong on somethings. I do my research, I don't think you do. Find a better supplement than Thrive Alive B1 that is organically certified and I'll take a look at it.

Your trying to start a flame war, the OP wanted to know if it was organic or not and the answer is NO. It has synthetic auxins in it in a very high concentration. I would not suggest it to be used on a small garden and not used at all if you wish to grow organically.

No bull shit...

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

Prove anything I have said about anything on here wrong. I am at least willing to admit I may be wrong on somethings. I do my research, I don't think you do. Find a better supplement than Thrive Alive B1 that is organically certified and I'll take a look at it.

Your trying to start a flame war, the OP wanted to know if it was organic or not and the answer is NO. It has synthetic auxins in it in a very high concentration. I would not suggest it to be used on a small garden and not used at all if you wish to grow organically.
No bull shit...

look at your previous posts and you'll find a lot off wrong info that you hand out.and no, there's no war hear buddy, just facts!!!and if it was a simple yes or no question, answer with a yes or no and keep your misinformation to yourself!like i said, your giving growers out there a lot of bullshit....as they say, the blind leading the blind.find someone else to parlay your stupidity on cause in my book, your lame..

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

dub, instead of growing, you should dabble in politics cause with all this propaganda (misinformation) and bullshit you try to have us believe, your halfway there.and on a side note, if i posted the kind of pictures your posting, i would be ashamed of myself.and don't come back with some lame story how your encapacitated cause a good bunch of us are. so leave your sad stories to yourself.

 

[eza82]

This is not productive........