White Dwarf autoflower Picture journal

growthspurt

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I removed all the males.. how about there was only one damn female.. shit.. I thought fem seeds where fem seeds.. what the hell caused that? i gotem from dr.chronic. Anyone else you recommend that has seeds that are REALLY fem?
 

growthspurt

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even though proper thinking leads you to beleive that its not dr.chronics fault.. since they just get it from buddaseeds or budda seed bank.. whatever it is. They only hold white dwarf and red dwarf.. and funny to think i was gonna get the red dwarf next.. hell no. Ima go with a different company in total next time.
 

GetHighLikePlanes

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Hey man,
I'm really sorry that you got all males. Even if it's not Dr. Chronic's fault I would definitely e-mail them and let them know and see what they can do for you. That's just bad genetics. You've done everything correctly and I'm sorry to see this happen to you, buddy. Hopefully, you'll get some nice nugs off that one female and you could always clone it. Anyways man, keep us posted.
 

yourlocal420

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Hey feel fotunate at least your seeds cracked. I ordered White Dwarf Fem from the attitude and the only thing that cracked were the freebies. Third grow with autoflowers and the germ rate and M/F ratio sucks. When you do get a plant they end up very well tho. Just not worth the hastle.
 

lurkmaster

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I don't think many companies really put much effort into autoflowering strains except joint doctor. Dutch passion's autoflowering strains aren't 100% autoflowering they are just ruderalis crosses, which is garbage.

There must have been a male hidden in the breeding room when they made the batch white dwarf seeds that you got.
 

lurkmaster

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Hey feel fotunate at least your seeds cracked. I ordered White Dwarf Fem from the attitude and the only thing that cracked were the freebies. Third grow with autoflowers and the germ rate and M/F ratio sucks. When you do get a plant they end up very well tho. Just not worth the hastle.
Autoflowering strains in general aren't worth the hassle.
 

chunkymunkey33

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I personally have done good with auto's, and with the joint doctor having the Easy Rider which can produce up to 2 ounces per plant...I think that's worth it. Growth I would email the doc like get high said, just to see what he says. Out of the 5 WD's I got, 3 out 5 cracked and all 3 were female. I doubt that they were straight males. It takes longer to show sex for females so the pistils may not have shown yet. Most feminized seeds are seeds from hermies, which means that if they're stressed they too will become hermies. They must have gotten stressed somehow. Did you ever get a new themometer to see what they canopy temp was instead of the room temp? Those leaves curling up and spreading like that means they are trying cool off, and if they were heat stressed that could have caused them to become hermies. Giving them nutes too early may have caused stress, but I would think that it's probably the heat. I remember your temps being about 80, which is just the room temp. I'd bet it's at least 10-15 degrees hotter than that under those lights.
 

growthspurt

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I actually eventually got a probe temp and under the canopy it is actually around 77 thoughout the day. I will write them to see what was up. Right now im down to one and Ive allready flushed the res to give it a new fresh set of nutes (calculated for one of course) We will see how this one plant does by itself. I need to check all day today to make sure no dead roots are stuck anywhere. ONce again everyone, thank you for your continued help and support during this time. I am in NO way giving up as Roseman said before I HAD some very healthy MALES, which shows I know how to take care of a plant.. just need to attract more females this time LMAO! anyway guys ill post an update once everything starts looking up again!!!
 

(Butters)

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wow i'm glad someone finally told him. i just looked at thread and thought to myself.. fem seeds? Definately male. Dont be in a hurry to kill the male.. why not make your own seeds of that stuff so you wont have to buy anymore seeds? Just a thought. Happy growing ;]
Given that the white dwarf is a mix of different types of strains. Should he take one of his males and pollinate his female, will he get white dwarf seeds? Or a mix of seeds that have varying traits of all the crosses within his original white dwarf seeds? I ask as I'm thinking about making my own seeds with my auto blueberry x auto ak47 seeds and can't find much info anywhere on crossing like this.
 

(Butters)

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Plants look great so far. Even the unfortunate males. GREAT thread with lots of useful info for those trying out autoflowering strains. Scribed.
 

chunkymunkey33

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Given that the white dwarf is a mix of different types of strains. Should he take one of his males and pollinate his female, will he get white dwarf seeds? Or a mix of seeds that have varying traits of all the crosses within his original white dwarf seeds? I ask as I'm thinking about making my own seeds with my auto blueberry x auto ak47 seeds and can't find much info anywhere on crossing like this.

If you pollinate a female with one of your males of the same strain, yes you will get seeds that are the same strain. What happens sometimes is you get certain phenotypes of the various strains that make up the strain that you have. Like for instance one of your plants may be taller, or show sex early, or grow bushier, and others may not but they are still the same strain. What you should do is take your healthiest looking male and collect pollen from it, then pollinate your healthiest female that shows good characteristics. Usually it takes about 6 weeks for seeds to mature, and then after harvesting you should let them sit in a dry cool place for at least a month. You can try and geminate before that but they probably won't crack, and if they do the plants will usually grow sickly and or be more succeptable to problems. I'm stoned to the bone right now so if I don't make sense or if I forgot something let me know.
 

(Butters)

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If you pollinate a female with one of your males of the same strain, yes you will get seeds that are the same strain. What happens sometimes is you get certain phenotypes of the various strains that make up the strain that you have. Like for instance one of your plants may be taller, or show sex early, or grow bushier, and others may not but they are still the same strain. What you should do is take your healthiest looking male and collect pollen from it, then pollinate your healthiest female that shows good characteristics. Usually it takes about 6 weeks for seeds to mature, and then after harvesting you should let them sit in a dry cool place for at least a month. You can try and geminate before that but they probably won't crack, and if they do the plants will usually grow sickly and or be more succeptable to problems. I'm stoned to the bone right now so if I don't make sense or if I forgot something let me know.
Dude...you f'n rock. Couldn't find the answer to that question anywhere! Thanks man.

And GrowthSpurt...any thoughts on collecting some pollen from your strong lookin males to pollinate your chic with? Maybe next batch you could just make your own fem'd seeds instead of having to take some places word for it?
 

growthspurt

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Yea I plan to venture into that later, but as of now i want to keep it strictly female....lol So I drained the res two times in the past two days so I could make sure I got all the lose roots that may have been floating around after the pulling. When I pulled the filter off the pump during the second cleaning it was PACKED full of dead roots (good thing that does alot of the cleaning for you) You just have to check on it all the time. I got myself one of those small fish nets that you use in small aquariums and what not... its opening is about half the size of a business card. Maybe one alittle bigger would be easier for now but I was assuming I would be trying to pick shit up with roots from 5/6 plants not 1 :( Soo after work tommorrow I promise some pics of the lonely lady.


NOTE: I wanted to mention that after the second res clean earlier today (i guess you can say yesterday...lol) I added 1/6 micro, 1/12 grow and 1/12 bloom
 

drivenhollow21

New Member
dude that sucks i have been buying white dwarf seeds since they came out and i have never gotten a male and 100% germ rate that honestly sucks dude i have me some real nice plants growing right now i will post pics soon. I think you got a bad batch or something because i also know people who grow these and have never had probs
 

FiZiKs

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Thats crazy, where'd you get your WD Seeds at? Cause i went to WWMS.com and ordered a 5 pack of their Fem WD's and so far 4 of 5 have showed to be females rite off at 2 inch's. The other im hopein will come through also but it had a little stretching and stem prblem so it's growth slowed but all of its sisters have all poped their hairs out at 2 inchs and under.

\/\/\/My Grow Log
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/174326-mile-high-first-grow.html?highlight=white+dwarf
 

growthspurt

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Hello all who may be following :) :) I just wanted to update really quick with a pic of the one lady. Along with two pics of this one random seed I had that started to grow outside for about 3 weeks and because of lack of sun it is really small. I just move her inside since she has grown little hairs showing its sex at such a small size. I plan to transport this to one of the available spots on the SH system. I have a question though.. when you start seeing all those pistils everywhere that is it being "female" but its not actually considered flowering right? Im just trying to find out if the "flowering period and when you would switch bloom"" starts when you start seeing the pistils or wait till you see bud. Remember my issue only comes because normal people growing NON autoflower would see what the plant would go to.. then switch to 12/12 and start giving bloom nutes. Me on the other hand have autoflower and do not know what to look for to consider it to be in flowering so I can properly provide it with the proper nutrients.

My only lady...(besides my real one LOL)




and here is that one little one that started showing sex so I plan to start vegging it to a good size.

NOTE: this is from random seed I found and threw in a pot outside in very little sun.. I saw the hairs and decided to use it.



 

growthspurt

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thats exactly what I said to my girl.. it reminds me of them people who dont need to shave but once a year.. and after all that time.. it looks like that on the bottom of their chin..lol
 
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