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Nailed it.
Obama ... He's Lookin' Good!
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Nailed it.
CrackerJax
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No, this nailed it, and the reason why we are now being nailed....
FilthyFletch
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I never saw any posts about Bush being perfect but if you want to get into that then by all means we can but it will go all the way back to Regan who yes was our greatest president ever not even close in modern day times. he was the one who set into place Trickle down economic and for those who want to jump in and rebut please have basic knowledge of what was the laid out economic longterm US recovery plan that was inacted by him and the direct stated and inprint time lines he set forth. DFo not jump in like a retard and say Regan sucked and so did Bush. please have some kind of knowledge. reagan stated when he laid that plan out that the effects of this plan if left in tact and adjusted as planned would show a complete reaping of national prospariety in approxiamtely 12 years. he set it in action. Bush senior left it and followed its set steps.
Then came willy Bill Clinton. First take into account how great everyone said our economy was during his term then take this into consideration. Bill Clinto lkeft all the Reagan economic trickle down economic domestic plans in place and even made the adjustments laid frth by Reagan to adjust for the new economic times and world situations. Clinto who fell into having terms in that 10-12 year full gainful times Reagan exactly set out, reaped praise for such a fine domestic economy even though..yes oh my god..Reagan a republican made it all possible. Now lets move to the last days of the Clinton reign. Costing high on the popular vote for what regan did he was reelected and if you remember later in his second term is where Bill started to tinker with his own ideas..bad ideas.He signed the order for not only the closing but the demolishion of 8 of our countries oil refineries in his last budget plan siting good neconomic times would not call for them since oil was reasonably priced and money was flowing steady in our economy. that was where the high gas comes from now. Clinton then procede to down size our military loosing tons of miltary jobs which with less military less public civillian jobs were needed for military gear and supplies. Another dummy move further starting the decline of our economy. Now to his last days. he was made aware of the up coming threats from Alquieda and the exact location of Osam Bin laden was knoiwn and a hit was in place waiting executive order from Mr Clinton who passed it by as he was full with the economy just starting to faulter and his own personal perjury trail investigations and the follow up to his murder scandels.New election Bush wins.
Ok new pres US domestic and world standings at top of hill crest just ready to cruise down hill from billy boys destruction on his way out.So now new pres Bush jr what does he inheirit from the Democratic reign. well he gets to be the first president since the civil war to have an attack on US soil mainland and the first since the revolution to have a foreign enemy come to our shores and strike. not a real big playbook with how to deal with this..He gets the word and does he panic no.. he stands firm finishes his appearence to the children and then leaves to not show a direct panic but to regroup and set into action the nations plan of presidential and executive security. yeah he and the vice got to safe places then began. So he starts out with this on his plate. So faultering economy from Clinto, an attack on US soil by foreign combatants led by the man Clinton could have eliminated with just his approval and we now have hurricanes bearing down on our coast and destroying the last of our oil refinery capicity. thats not even the half of what Bush got to deal with. Now he has to reassure the country, get the attackers and prevent more, deal with the economy, deal with lost oil refinery capacity, set forth the largest rescue and rebuild from a natural disaster in history with Katrina, and figure out how to stabalize the domestic economy.That right there is more than pretty much any US prsident ever ever had to do since the depression.Now lets have him deal with this then lets put the burden of saying never again not on US soil 2 war fronts are acted on mind you both needed. Irag 3 reason given why we eneterterd before going in direct. 2 of the 3 reason found to be exactly as stated before going in and the 3rd enough evidence to see it had been right but altered.What reasons some who do not pay attention and spout out "For Oil". reason 1 given. Both Irag and Afgahnastan and Irag were warned to regulate and no provide safe heavan to terrosts groups and traing facilities as these were decalred US enemies. both did not take care of the issue so the support of terroist training and funding was quoted as reason one and was founded quiet clearly and is still an issue. reason 2. saddam had violated many of the desert storm international agreements but mainly 2 sections. he was illegally impoirting goods that were banned or had embargos on to his country. How could he do that well france and Coffey Jr via unisef had been illeaglly selling to Iraq. Wh protested the invasion and removal of Saddam right away? france and unicef why? Billion dollar money cash cow cut off. Found yes reciets. Unicef containers and trails to France accounts. Nice one guys.So to top off that traety breaking he began testing chemical weapons for genocidal purpose to cleanse Iraq of what he thought was the impure Kurds population. satellite images showed mas graves being made. Internal spies reported seeing this and when we go in what do you know mass graves of over quarter million kurds he killed in his pre for genocide. sound a little like a german guy from previous world wars that countries were so mad the US waited so long to get involved in before helping?? so those 2 reason proved dea on.. The third reason suspected WMD manufacturing. satellite images showed potential weapons and manufacture plants. intercepted shipments from embargo found the needed parts for long range missles and nuclear war heads. but we didnt find them. We were stalled and UN inspectors killed and fired uipon trying ti check these out. Hmm what happened. saddam found with millions in US currency. trucks spotted crossing to the Iranian border. saddam need money and monility to hide and flee how could he get that..His arabneighbor who hates the US and wants nuclear knowhow and has cash avaliable. saddamn made the sale knowing he was done and had to flee.Iran now has nuclkear know how out of the blue and is flexing its international muscle to the US now......So tell me a president who dealt with that much shit and go it all right. he did what he did not all right but he stood his ground made his stance and followed threough like a real leader. not all popular not all worked as planned but he did what he believed to be right and took action and kept us safe.
Enter in obama who many of his votes came from people who never in thier life voted before. Voters who you could ask what policy statement Obama was preaching was there basis for their vote and most had no clue but he was calling for change and not a republican who those who didnt understand the real going ons wanted to just have something different. Most never researched Obama's Illinois senate doings or they never would have voted for a man who helped put Illinois in a 12 billion dollar hole in the worst economic being next to California. he immediatly came into office with the democratic chip that for almost 20 years the dems government had been blocked by repubican rules so all these old ideas and plans that were shut down he wants to get through for the democrates. he is gonna do 20 years of back ideas in 4 years and then add his ultra high financially irresponsible doings on top. And he said no new taxes and change. both lies. he already has more new taxes coming then the entire Bush terms. he has pushed big government into personal business and is trying to force america into the known failure of socialism while jobs drop, taxes raise, international nuclear tension rise and he goes on dates with his wife at the tax payers exspense..soo yeah Obama not so good, Bush not the greatest but taking into account what he got served not that bad either. Clkinto just a looser and con man.Reagan great philosopher and world leader with excellent vision to change the face of the world...yeah its long but some needed a basic history lesson
Then came willy Bill Clinton. First take into account how great everyone said our economy was during his term then take this into consideration. Bill Clinto lkeft all the Reagan economic trickle down economic domestic plans in place and even made the adjustments laid frth by Reagan to adjust for the new economic times and world situations. Clinto who fell into having terms in that 10-12 year full gainful times Reagan exactly set out, reaped praise for such a fine domestic economy even though..yes oh my god..Reagan a republican made it all possible. Now lets move to the last days of the Clinton reign. Costing high on the popular vote for what regan did he was reelected and if you remember later in his second term is where Bill started to tinker with his own ideas..bad ideas.He signed the order for not only the closing but the demolishion of 8 of our countries oil refineries in his last budget plan siting good neconomic times would not call for them since oil was reasonably priced and money was flowing steady in our economy. that was where the high gas comes from now. Clinton then procede to down size our military loosing tons of miltary jobs which with less military less public civillian jobs were needed for military gear and supplies. Another dummy move further starting the decline of our economy. Now to his last days. he was made aware of the up coming threats from Alquieda and the exact location of Osam Bin laden was knoiwn and a hit was in place waiting executive order from Mr Clinton who passed it by as he was full with the economy just starting to faulter and his own personal perjury trail investigations and the follow up to his murder scandels.New election Bush wins.
Ok new pres US domestic and world standings at top of hill crest just ready to cruise down hill from billy boys destruction on his way out.So now new pres Bush jr what does he inheirit from the Democratic reign. well he gets to be the first president since the civil war to have an attack on US soil mainland and the first since the revolution to have a foreign enemy come to our shores and strike. not a real big playbook with how to deal with this..He gets the word and does he panic no.. he stands firm finishes his appearence to the children and then leaves to not show a direct panic but to regroup and set into action the nations plan of presidential and executive security. yeah he and the vice got to safe places then began. So he starts out with this on his plate. So faultering economy from Clinto, an attack on US soil by foreign combatants led by the man Clinton could have eliminated with just his approval and we now have hurricanes bearing down on our coast and destroying the last of our oil refinery capicity. thats not even the half of what Bush got to deal with. Now he has to reassure the country, get the attackers and prevent more, deal with the economy, deal with lost oil refinery capacity, set forth the largest rescue and rebuild from a natural disaster in history with Katrina, and figure out how to stabalize the domestic economy.That right there is more than pretty much any US prsident ever ever had to do since the depression.Now lets have him deal with this then lets put the burden of saying never again not on US soil 2 war fronts are acted on mind you both needed. Irag 3 reason given why we eneterterd before going in direct. 2 of the 3 reason found to be exactly as stated before going in and the 3rd enough evidence to see it had been right but altered.What reasons some who do not pay attention and spout out "For Oil". reason 1 given. Both Irag and Afgahnastan and Irag were warned to regulate and no provide safe heavan to terrosts groups and traing facilities as these were decalred US enemies. both did not take care of the issue so the support of terroist training and funding was quoted as reason one and was founded quiet clearly and is still an issue. reason 2. saddam had violated many of the desert storm international agreements but mainly 2 sections. he was illegally impoirting goods that were banned or had embargos on to his country. How could he do that well france and Coffey Jr via unisef had been illeaglly selling to Iraq. Wh protested the invasion and removal of Saddam right away? france and unicef why? Billion dollar money cash cow cut off. Found yes reciets. Unicef containers and trails to France accounts. Nice one guys.So to top off that traety breaking he began testing chemical weapons for genocidal purpose to cleanse Iraq of what he thought was the impure Kurds population. satellite images showed mas graves being made. Internal spies reported seeing this and when we go in what do you know mass graves of over quarter million kurds he killed in his pre for genocide. sound a little like a german guy from previous world wars that countries were so mad the US waited so long to get involved in before helping?? so those 2 reason proved dea on.. The third reason suspected WMD manufacturing. satellite images showed potential weapons and manufacture plants. intercepted shipments from embargo found the needed parts for long range missles and nuclear war heads. but we didnt find them. We were stalled and UN inspectors killed and fired uipon trying ti check these out. Hmm what happened. saddam found with millions in US currency. trucks spotted crossing to the Iranian border. saddam need money and monility to hide and flee how could he get that..His arabneighbor who hates the US and wants nuclear knowhow and has cash avaliable. saddamn made the sale knowing he was done and had to flee.Iran now has nuclkear know how out of the blue and is flexing its international muscle to the US now......So tell me a president who dealt with that much shit and go it all right. he did what he did not all right but he stood his ground made his stance and followed threough like a real leader. not all popular not all worked as planned but he did what he believed to be right and took action and kept us safe.
Enter in obama who many of his votes came from people who never in thier life voted before. Voters who you could ask what policy statement Obama was preaching was there basis for their vote and most had no clue but he was calling for change and not a republican who those who didnt understand the real going ons wanted to just have something different. Most never researched Obama's Illinois senate doings or they never would have voted for a man who helped put Illinois in a 12 billion dollar hole in the worst economic being next to California. he immediatly came into office with the democratic chip that for almost 20 years the dems government had been blocked by repubican rules so all these old ideas and plans that were shut down he wants to get through for the democrates. he is gonna do 20 years of back ideas in 4 years and then add his ultra high financially irresponsible doings on top. And he said no new taxes and change. both lies. he already has more new taxes coming then the entire Bush terms. he has pushed big government into personal business and is trying to force america into the known failure of socialism while jobs drop, taxes raise, international nuclear tension rise and he goes on dates with his wife at the tax payers exspense..soo yeah Obama not so good, Bush not the greatest but taking into account what he got served not that bad either. Clkinto just a looser and con man.Reagan great philosopher and world leader with excellent vision to change the face of the world...yeah its long but some needed a basic history lesson
CrackerJax
New Member
Uh oh, some one who gets it..... 
bicycle racer
Well-Known Member
our invasion of iraq was in no way justified plain and simple we went to protect our interests in the region. there was much deceit by that admin aimed at the american public to convince them otherwise and the attack on 9/11 was used as a catalyst to sway opinion regarding that invasion.
bicycle racer
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to 'get it' i would have to do away with moral decency i would rather not.
CrackerJax
New Member
The fact is CLINTON should have dealt with Iraq....
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
uh ohh some one who deosnt get it right above me lol its funn how you can openly tell someone a reason but if it doesnt fit what they think its a lie lol. i could tell you I am not going to wear green shirts since I think the color isnt very nice and you would jump up tell me fuck off since green is great and I have an aliance with the people who make red dye. If you paid basic attention he gave the reason we were going in before he executed and then each good reason was found to be true. thats kinda how it works. You do research establish a reason and then make an action which you follow and then you do as the plan said and thats called a complted though process. Can you nplease explain to me how giving 3 reason and explanation to those then going and acting on those and finding exactly what you said is adecietful thing. This type is black in color...no deciet look at it it is black no way to is interput that
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
Clinton was a pussy who didnt want to rock the boat or have to do any work. he had the typical democrate attitude of "Give it to me I shouldnt have to earn it." democrates worry about what is best for an individual like themselves while the repubs take the bigger picture in and concintrate on what will benefit the majority overall. plain and simple has been like that for years. i will say right now both parties need to change and the republicans need to get rid of some old blood and move to a more moderate stance to adjust to the world and times and the democrates well just need to pay attention and do some work for once
CrackerJax
New Member
heh, he's a CNN kid, that's why. Skimming the surface trying to find the bottom.....
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
lol a news ticker information getter yikes
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
CNN...Clinton News Network all clinton all day
CrackerJax
New Member
In the land of copy/paste .. more info .. MUCH more disinfo .. now more than ever you need a foundation of economic knowledge to sift thru the BS.
bicycle racer
Well-Known Member
i could spend some time typing a long diatribe of the various facts and reasons of why i feel how i do but there is no point as no one is going to change anyones opinions on this matter. clearly our truths and facts are not from the same source as i have have an understanding of american politics that is in know way similar to what you guys think. there are many who agree with your views and many that agree with mine. you feell i dont get it i feel you dont get it that is not going to change.
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
Thats the good thing about america..well for at least now but thats changing with Obama..its a free country and you can think as you want..that is going to change since our great pres pretty much thinks our constitution is toliet paper and violates it daily lol. Bicycle no hard feelings just dont vote for Obama next election
bicycle racer
Well-Known Member
i dont watch the news or tv at all. neither the pro dem or pro repub stations. i do my own research through various outlets try it some time. also im not a kid i wish i was. you can attack me personally if you would like i just see it as frustration and it does not make your opinions any more clear and thats what they are opinions.
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
I love the original caddy Shack..."Thats ahhh some of my own creation right there....the uhhh kentucky bluegrass variation with my own californian sensimillia"Bill was hilarious and its classic
bicycle racer
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i did not vote for obama.