GrowRebel
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The only proof you offer is that you fail for the bullshit. And please enlighten us ... what the hell does Iran have to do with 911?
And we are the nuts? bwaa ha ha ha ... now that's funny.
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And we are the nuts? bwaa ha ha ha ... now that's funny.snowmanexpress
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Youre kidding me right, cmon. You can't be serious.The only proof you offer is that you fail for the bullshit. And please enlighten us ... what the hell does Iran have to do with 911?
Please, tell me what adminedjid are beating into thier heads.
Its an interconnected unit over there.
Syria, Lebanon, Bagdad, Iraq, Iran. All for one and one for all bro. And there is ALOT of them, with North Korea on thier side, possibly russia, if the game of Risk goes too far bro.
Your head will be shoved so far up your bootie on this conspiracy, you will lose sight of what's really happening around us.
I wont believe it for one second. Our own people don't deserve to be humiliated. Look at what kind of laughing stock you are making us. I think its humiliating our own people. A waste of energy on nonsense.
GrowRebel
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thanks much for putting this up ... It's great for the record. bush and the rest of them knew what was going on ... that's why the SS didn't get him out and to a secure place ... they knew he wasn't in any danger. Only us peons had something to fear during their false flag attack. bush and cheney were allowed to testify in private so they could lie their asses off with no repercussions ... I bet they didn't even discuss 911 ... probably talked about their golf game or hunting ... lol ... that's why that whole 911 commission was total bullshit ... no one had to testify under oath ... nothing more than a dog and pony show ... keep both parties out and have a real investigation ... that will be the ONLY thing that will stop us so called nutjobs.Bush is a liar
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Why did Bush and Cheney meet with the 9/11 commission privately? why is that the only way Bush would talk to them?
9/11 is BULLSHIT... that's all there is too is
snowmanexpress
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Cmon guys.thanks much for putting this up ... It's great for the record. bush and the rest of them knew what was going on ... that's why the SS didn't get him out and to a secure place ... they knew he wasn't in any danger. Only us peons had something to fear during their false flag attack. bush and cheney were allowed to testify in private so they could lie their asses off with no repercussions ... I bet they didn't even discuss 911 ... probably talked about their golf game or hunting ... lol ... that's why that whole 911 commission was total bullshit ... no one had to testify under oath ... nothing more than a dog and pony show ... keep both parties out and have a real investigation ... that will be the ONLY thing that will stop us so called nutjobs.
No way. Doesnt happen. Bush, however sad he may have publicly appeared. Was a texan and all that bro. You dont mess with texas. Its us man. Theres no competition here. We need to recognize we are internally fighting each other in our own country. Thats exactly what the OTHER side would LOVE to see man. You see, you are playing right into thier hands. Youre almost brainwashed by the best brainwashers anywhere.
And I dont wanna hear that Hannah Montana crap our kids may be on. But Ill take Hannah anyday over that bee they got over there.
Dont go there man, come back down bro, please.
Ive seen alot of footage of the towers falling. Ive watched many conspiracy vids, just to watch them. Don't think for one second I wasnt compelled by that crap. But after I shed a tear, and took a breath, I know it can't be true.
Ive seen ALOT ALOT of footage of the towers. Ill dig this one out for you that actually shows the west wall falling almost intact the WHOLE WAY DOWN. Ive seen it buckle, dont even tell me you didnt see the one where it clearly shows the tower buckling at almost 10- 15 degrees. Ive got eyes, ears, and half a brain. I know that crap isnt true.
medicineman
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Texas, Texas, we don't need no stinkin texans. 2 Idiots from Texas,(BushI and II) make that 3, I forgot about Johnson, the guy who killed Kennedy, have already shoved this countries foriegn policy up the worlds ass with military might, broke the bank and created hatred of this country accross the globe. "Don't mess with Texas" should be reversed to "don't let Texas mess with the USA". If it weren't for the ignorant Texans, this country would be a lot better off. Fuck Texas.
mexiblunt
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Who is the"OTHER" side?
GrowRebel
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No I'm not kidding ... I'm serious ... tell us what Iran has to do with 911?
I really don't give a fuck what Ahmadinejad is beating into their heads ... I only care about seeing those truly responsible for the murder of 3000 plus people go to jail.
Are they really? Good for them.
And they are all coming to get us right? Yawn
Sounds like you are the one that has lost sight ... perhaps if you hide under your bed you will feel safer?
... cried the brain washed ...
The sheeple were humiliated when they bought the bullshit "official" story.
The only ones that are being make a laughing stock of are the brain washed sheeple that accept the "official" bullshit story without question.
I think it's humiliating too ... some sheeple accepting the bullshit for all these years. And it's never a waste of energy or nonsense to bring war criminals to justice. This thread is about 911 ... not about your fears of how "they are going to get us". Move along ... move along.
GrowRebel
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More engineers that don't buy the "official" government bullshit. My... but there are a lot of nutjobs running around ... now aren't there?
[URL="http://www.ae911truth.org/downloads/29_Structural-Civil_Engineers_2009-06-17.pdf"]29 Structural & Civil Engineers Cite Evidence for Controlled Demolition of All 3 WTC High-Rises on 9/11[/url]
The symmetry of collapse struck Paul Mason, a structural engineer in Melbourne, Australia, and Dennis Kollar, P.E. (licensed Professional Engineer in Wisconsin). Kollar was troubled by the collapses totality and uniformity and the fact that the mass of debris remained centered on the building core all the way down. The towers should have fallen with increasing eccentricity as the collapse progressed, writes Howard Pasternack, P.E. These systematic collapses required that many structural connections not only fail nearly simultaneously, but also in sequential order, wrote Frank Cullinan, P.E.,who designs bridges in Northern California. Thats impossible from asymmetrical impact loading and ...small, short-duration fires.
(FYI, The article is in pdf format /SR)
http://www.911blogger.com/node/20385http://www.911blogger.com/node/20385http://www.911blogger.com/node/20385[URL="http://www.911blogger.com/node/20385"]Two Days Before 9/11, Military Exercise Simulated Suicide Hijack Targeting New York[/url]
The US military conducted a training exercise in the five days before the September 11 attacks that included simulated aircraft hijackings by terrorists, according to a 9/11 Commission document recently found in the US National Archives. In one of the scenarios, implemented on September 9, terrorists hijacked a London to New York flight, planning to blow it up with explosives over New York.
More fuel for the fire folks ... until a non partisan public investigation takes place 911 will be considered by the majority as an inside job. Nuff said.
[URL="http://www.ae911truth.org/downloads/29_Structural-Civil_Engineers_2009-06-17.pdf"]29 Structural & Civil Engineers Cite Evidence for Controlled Demolition of All 3 WTC High-Rises on 9/11[/url]
The symmetry of collapse struck Paul Mason, a structural engineer in Melbourne, Australia, and Dennis Kollar, P.E. (licensed Professional Engineer in Wisconsin). Kollar was troubled by the collapses totality and uniformity and the fact that the mass of debris remained centered on the building core all the way down. The towers should have fallen with increasing eccentricity as the collapse progressed, writes Howard Pasternack, P.E. These systematic collapses required that many structural connections not only fail nearly simultaneously, but also in sequential order, wrote Frank Cullinan, P.E.,who designs bridges in Northern California. Thats impossible from asymmetrical impact loading and ...small, short-duration fires.
(FYI, The article is in pdf format /SR)
http://www.911blogger.com/node/20385http://www.911blogger.com/node/20385http://www.911blogger.com/node/20385[URL="http://www.911blogger.com/node/20385"]Two Days Before 9/11, Military Exercise Simulated Suicide Hijack Targeting New York[/url]
The US military conducted a training exercise in the five days before the September 11 attacks that included simulated aircraft hijackings by terrorists, according to a 9/11 Commission document recently found in the US National Archives. In one of the scenarios, implemented on September 9, terrorists hijacked a London to New York flight, planning to blow it up with explosives over New York.
More fuel for the fire folks ... until a non partisan public investigation takes place 911 will be considered by the majority as an inside job. Nuff said.
Everyone still focuses on the 2 towers. WHAT ABOUT THE SALOMON BROS BUILDING? I want some answers from the resident sheep concerning this building. Can you explain it? Got any facts, perhaps the 911 commission says what happened to it? Anyone? I will take your continued silence on this matter as your consent that it was indeed blown up. If I hear anyone say the fires did it you will be a laughing stock, if you say the towers fell on it I will prove they did not.
Those videos of the Palestinians celebrating were most likely either coerced or taken at some other day and just edited to make it look like it. I mean its not like they have giant TV's tuned to CNN sitting out in the streets. Even if they are celebrating that certainly is not indication of guilt, if it were then that old lady is the one who did it, she is really whooping it up. EVEN if they are celebrating it I sure don't blame them, we have been warring against them since the 70's. We have many trade sanctions against Iran and don't forget we have assassinated some of their leaders previously. Now lets just say that some other country came over here, killed the pres and a few other key people then waged war against us and would not let medical aid or medicine into the country, you think you would be a little pissed? Weve been over there killing them for 40 years and you have the audacity to say THEY are the evil ones. Hey buddy that area is the cradle of civilization, you ever been to the middle east? Its funny that is what convinces you they did it. Your faith in the Federal Reserve also strikes me as funny, surely you know how money works right? Anyone that knows how it works doesn't have faith in them to fix anything, they are the ones responsible for more economic malfeasance than any entity in the history of the USA.
Those videos of the Palestinians celebrating were most likely either coerced or taken at some other day and just edited to make it look like it. I mean its not like they have giant TV's tuned to CNN sitting out in the streets. Even if they are celebrating that certainly is not indication of guilt, if it were then that old lady is the one who did it, she is really whooping it up. EVEN if they are celebrating it I sure don't blame them, we have been warring against them since the 70's. We have many trade sanctions against Iran and don't forget we have assassinated some of their leaders previously. Now lets just say that some other country came over here, killed the pres and a few other key people then waged war against us and would not let medical aid or medicine into the country, you think you would be a little pissed? Weve been over there killing them for 40 years and you have the audacity to say THEY are the evil ones. Hey buddy that area is the cradle of civilization, you ever been to the middle east? Its funny that is what convinces you they did it. Your faith in the Federal Reserve also strikes me as funny, surely you know how money works right? Anyone that knows how it works doesn't have faith in them to fix anything, they are the ones responsible for more economic malfeasance than any entity in the history of the USA.
You sir have been caught again! Not one single post made by me in this thread starts with "Why would", "Why Did" and "How Could". Not a single one.
If this were a court of law you would now be labeled as a known liar and all of your testimony would be thrown out and all future testimony would be considered lies.
So we have proven several times now in this thread that you either
A) don't know what your talking about.
B) Make things up to make yourself feel better.
C) lie your ass off to try and convince others that you are right
could also be
D) You have a small Penis and winning arguments no matter how much you cheat makes it appear bigger. Kind of like Pinocchio.
I am guessing A, but I wouldn't dismiss any of the others, well except maybe D cuz thats just really ridiculous.
huffy420
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Not one time in my previous post did I mention jet fuel!! Why do you insist on making shit up?
Please show me?
This, again, proves you:
A) make bullshit up
B) construe other people words to confuse the conversation
C) have poor reading/comprehension skills
So who's the ass again for making assumptions?
FAIL!! Did you just call jet fuel similar to natural gas?!? BAHAHA Ill leave this one alone
More proof that you dont know what your talking about.
Yea and i guess you think its a fucking magic trick how a blast furnace burns at thousands of degrees and its made of steel at the same time, but yet it doesnt melt..
People called Galileo a "nutjob" when he claimed that the Earth was the one that revolved around the Sun too....
what... huh?
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Oh... I thought...
Ooops.
How many examples do I need to give before I am not labeled as a liar? There are plenty more.
Does this now make you a liar?
Funny... seems to me you just keep calling me a liar... and avoiding the very simple questions I ask.
So... your current question is, "How many people minimum, do you suppose would HAVE to be involved in this conspiracy?"
I have also asked you to call on your munitions expertise, in conjunction with the "lots" you have demolished with explosives, how much fissile material would be required.
Oh... and Gage
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BEBFC8F0282076E0&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=kjJzlcdtlkU
7:06.
In the words of Dick Cheney... "Go fuck yourself".
Now answer a question. I know it didn't go well for you last time... this wont be as bad... this is conjecture.
You said my posts began that way, you have not found a single one that begins that way, maybe in the body of the post there are questions raised, but none of the posts began with those words you said, so again your just making shit up again, and then when someone calls you on it, you try to justify it by editing my own posts in a quote to try and show it begins like that. We can all see right through you. Stop trying to make me look like you want me to look and try to discuss the issues at hand. If you have no further constructive purpose other than just to argue about whether you think you can recall facts or not you need to stop participating. Shoo, go away before I taunt you another time
As far as the Dick Cheney thing, guess what Gage never says it, the narrator does, so there ya go, you can put your foot back in your big mouth again. And you could only find 1 discrepancy in a 1 hour movie. Hell I found 10 discrepansies in your posts in 5 minutes.
I can't answer your question I already explained why in a previous post why, try reading once in a while.
What "lots" have I demolished? I never said anything about that, again your making things up. Again try reading.I already stated WHAT I have expertise in.
How many people? How would I know? Why don't you tell me. obviously quite a few, although for the most part everyone just follows procedure and is so engulfed in the moment I doubt anyone of them know they are accomplices.
As far as the Dick Cheney thing, guess what Gage never says it, the narrator does, so there ya go, you can put your foot back in your big mouth again. And you could only find 1 discrepancy in a 1 hour movie. Hell I found 10 discrepansies in your posts in 5 minutes.
I can't answer your question I already explained why in a previous post why, try reading once in a while.
What "lots" have I demolished? I never said anything about that, again your making things up. Again try reading.I already stated WHAT I have expertise in.
How many people? How would I know? Why don't you tell me. obviously quite a few, although for the most part everyone just follows procedure and is so engulfed in the moment I doubt anyone of them know they are accomplices.
I find this more wacko conspiracy theorist than any "truther" would be viewed.
Not in a million years will N Korea and Russia join with the middle east countries. Just where do you get your information? Cereal boxes? Russia is not a Communist country, N Korea is.There are only 5 commie countries in the whole world.
BTW you do Know that Baghdad is part of Iraq right? Because you specifically list all countries and then 1 city, I just get the feeling that maybe you thought it was a separate country or something.
If everyone in Iran loves Mahmoud Ahmadinejad so much then why are there millions of protesters in the streets disputing his election?
snowmanexpress
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Oh good one.
Ya, a peaceful protest right? or a vigorous debate? you choose.
Not in a million years will N Korea and Russia join with the middle east countries. Just where do you get your information? Cereal boxes? Russia is not a Communist country, N Korea is. There are only 5 commie countries in the whole world.
Right, ok.
You really have no clue.
what... huh?
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beginning
be·gin·ning [ bi gínning ]
noun (plural be·gin·nings)
Definition: 1. first part: the first part or early stages of something
I guess you define the beginning as the first sentence... or word... or perhaps letter... or do you consider the framing of the box the beginning? Because you misuse the term does not mean I have mislead you. I didn't "edit" your fucking posts. I quoted you. Don't get upset at me because you are a contradictory prick.
This is weak. Your posts are getting weak, and that is unfortunate. You understood the context of my post?
You- "I don't dane to engage in speculation as such is beneath me and should be beneath you."
Me- "Funny... you ask me to speculate all the time."
and now you want to get into a semantic quibble over how many words into your post you ejaculate contradictions onto yourself. Fucking weak. You are better than that. Be better than that.
Are you serious? If someone I was preporting as the Christ of anti-conspiracy theories showed something this fundamentally dishonest in more than one source, I would give you the point and be embarrassed. You should be fucking embarrassed. This is Gages presentation. I can find you at LEAST 3 times in which he has proposed THIS EXACT presentation... which HE HAD MADE. He PAID for this. This is HIS proposal. This is HIS presentation. If he thought it were incorrect he would change it, as he does all the time.
It is my 1 discrepancy, because I did not watch more than it to determine this expert was either an idiot or a liar. I am going with liar.
The "discrepancies" you have found with my posts are all debatable, and I have not claimed to be an expert in anything. This is YOUR self imposed expert who is presenting you with lies. You figure out why... I don't care.
You said you are not a demolitions expert. You claim, however, to be a munitions expert, and any munitions expert worth his salt knows how much ordinance it takes to achieve a result on any material they have math on. Figure out how much it would take to do a 3 story square based building. You also haven't answered why NOBODY uses thermite to demolish. Cut beams before demo? Maybe. I have seen no evidence of it.
There I go "editing" your posts again.
I didn't ask you how many people. I asked, how many minimum. It will require some thought. Pilots, crew, passengers, families of passengers, NTSB, ATC administrators and individual controllers who were intimately involved, the NYFD fire officials who made the critical decisions, the NYFD firemen which all saw building 7 bulging and agreed it was going to fall, Military officials, military pilots, WTC security, several ticket agents, Bush officials, the CIA, the FBI, the NSA (I include these guys because it would just be hard to pull off something of this scope without them hearing about it)... demolitions experts, engineers, modelers, eye witnesses, iron workers, smelters, all of the NIST scientists with sterling reputations who lied to cover up for the government... for starters. Cmon... gimme a number.
what... huh?
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Am I going to be forced to define demolish for you as well?
I am not a racist, but I am very anti-semantic.
I am not a racist, but I am very anti-semantic.
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If firefighters said "We are going to have to demo 7, because it is unstable." who would have blinked?
What is the point?
^
Scary question.
"If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions."
Jules- Pulp Fiction
It appears you have.
LOL and whatnot.
(note the next paragraph which mentions the "collective myth" referred to so many times in that lying presentation)
I guess it will be hard to prove that Gage himself made his website... and therefor the information contained therein does not reflect his views. Bummer... there I go being debunked again.
What is the point?
^
Scary question.
"If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions."
Jules- Pulp Fiction
It appears you have.
LOL and whatnot.
(note the next paragraph which mentions the "collective myth" referred to so many times in that lying presentation)
I guess it will be hard to prove that Gage himself made his website... and therefor the information contained therein does not reflect his views. Bummer... there I go being debunked again.
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Securacom's contract ended in 1998. You are just promoting bullshit.But it was all going on during the weeks before. Now, both towers had been contracted for a "security upgrade". Supposedly, a crew from this company (Securacom serch it) had been contracted to install a new security system. Did I mention that the owner of Securacom is none other the Ex-Pres Bush's little brother Marvin Bush.
Sounds like a fine time to rig a building to me. Especially when the powers down.... No door locks, no security cameras. Hell, any one of those "security engineers" had access to whatever part of the building he wanted to!
Yeah. The WTC complex was just a huge glitter bomb waiting for 3 years to go off.
You have obviously never been inside of the WTC.
That would have been easy as shit to plant 136 gravity defying thermite bombs into. I mean... only about 30,000 people per day walked in and out of those things. Nobody would have seen them hauling in (x) tons of thermite.
Not to mention the fact that... well... you still haven't addressed why nobody uses thermite to demo buildings... esp large ones... because it is unpredictable, and irreversable. Precision demo is exactly that. Push the button, and the series goes boom. Thermite... ehhh... it goes when enough of it gets hot enough, for long enough. It also kinda works with gravity. None of you folks have addressed that.
I guess that is why I need x defined... even though it seems silly to you. I guess I want to know how you ignite it in such precision as to demo a building. I want to know how you make it cut sideways. I want to know how you drop the largest building EVER with a material so volitile that no demolitions expert in the world has ever used it to try and bring down anything in controlled... operative word... manner with it... much less the largest structure EVER to be brought down by man.
In all of your controlled demo video, you have yet to show one which used thermite. You have yet to show one, using ANY detonation, which went from the top down. Have none of you noticed the difference in all of those videos and wtc 1&2? In all of your babble... you fail to notice 4 key differences in this than any other demolition in history.
1. It destructs from the top down.
2. Thermite has never been used (because it sucks for the purpose... gravity and "control" both)
3. Scale. This is bigger, and was damaged differently than any structure in history.
4. It burned for over 3 months. Longer than any structure in history. Not thermite, not anything makes that happen.
Throw me a frikkin bone here.
BTW
This looks controlled as shit.
World Trade Center, around September 21, 2001
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