Someguys Perpetual Parabolic SCROG Cabinet grow (trying to actually keep a journal)

SomeGuy

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Was a nice run man :) still things looked good. Eegads .34 per watt. Def not something i wanted to see. :p

Quick question. Do you think that 1g per watt is actually doable? or is it a floro pipe dream?
Sorry, I think its a pipe dream. .5g maybe .6 is possible I think. Of course you can always get more flouros. But that defeats the whole purpose to run them. I mean... if your running 250 watts of flouro, why not just get a 250w hps? Same power consumption. Heat per watt is heat per watt... so many watts=so many jules of heat. I have been thinking about just buying 2-250w hps as I feel I have too much light for my space and am not being efficient enough.

Do you have a journal?
 

EpyxN

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Sorry, I think its a pipe dream. .5g maybe .6 is possible I think. Of course you can always get more flouros. But that defeats the whole purpose to run them. I mean... if your running 250 watts of flouro, why not just get a 250w hps? Same power consumption. Heat per watt is heat per watt... so many watts=so many jules of heat. I have been thinking about just buying 2-250w hps as I feel I have too much light for my space and am not being efficient enough.

Do you have a journal?
Ya journal is here.

Ya I have a few 1k hps's but after roaming through the CFL forum when I first arrived here i just had to give it an attempt. But i just don't see it happening lol. I think the closest I have seen anyone get is like .75 or something like that, can't really remember. but def wasn't the 1g per watt. (I purchased the bubblelicious to test under cfl :p not a wise thing to start with a strain you have never grown before when doing an experimental test run lol what started as a SOG quickly turned SCROG :p :/ )

I def will be tossing this strain under the hps's down the road, looks like it could be a nice yielder.
 

GypsyBush

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I think my 400w hps is a bit of overkill in the 14"x28" space.
I had my 600 in the 20"x36"... not overkill at all... ok maybe a little bit.. but the nugs were WORTH IT BIG TIME....

I had light bleaching on two colas and the lamp was almost 1.5' away...
Well, Something doesn't sound right...

I have seen, and PERSONALLY HAVE NOW in this very grow... plants growing against the glass on my air cooled hood...

So I have a 600w maybe 6" from the tops... with no bleaching at all...;-)

Just thought I'd share...

Your scrogs with a 400w would be something in a whole new class...:lol::clap:

Hope you do it...:eyesmoke:
 

SomeGuy

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I had my 600 in the 20"x36"... not overkill at all... ok maybe a little bit.. but the nugs were WORTH IT BIG TIME....

Well, Something doesn't sound right...

I have seen, and PERSONALLY HAVE NOW in this very grow... plants growing against the glass on my air cooled hood...

So I have a 600w maybe 6" from the tops... with no bleaching at all...;-)

Just thought I'd share...

Your scrogs with a 400w would be something in a whole new class...:lol::clap:

Hope you do it...:eyesmoke:
Well I am using a 400 now in the parabolic. However, I am not air-cooling it. The logistics of making it work with these cabinets is too much. Its ok. I want to build a couple of portable custom cabinets (wheels). I will custom make them and set them up with cool tubes and co2. Its the only way it will get better is with an air-cooled hood. Mammath had the same problem when not using air cooled lights.

Thanks for the props gypsy. :mrgreen:
 

SomeGuy

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Thats a great comparison Gypsy! Thanks! :-) I did do a little modification to it. I used the reflective metal tape above the screen to try and get a little more light bounce in the cab. My bud dryer has never been this full. BTW how did the paper-bag method work for you? I use my dryer for 2-3 days and then the paper bag for about the same and then jars. Seems to work pretty good for me.
 

Mammath

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Hey nice turn around there SG.
Well done mate.
Let us know how the latest smokes up when it's ready for consumption.
 

tom__420

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Hey someguy just to let you know that what we were talking about with the intakes worked great! Lowered my temps from like 82ish to 77 no problems. I dropped the a/c to 70 low too. I would suggest doing this man, it really worked perfectly
 

GypsyBush

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BTW how did the paper-bag method work for you? I use my dryer for 2-3 days and then the paper bag for about the same and then jars. Seems to work pretty good for me.
The bag seems to work just fine...

I like it because I cure a little on the chewey side, so I have to burp my jars a LOT the first few days...

The paper bag eliminates that...

Once they go in the jar, all they need is burp once a day or 2...

I like it...:eyesmoke:
 

SomeGuy

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Hey nice turn around there SG.
Well done mate.
Let us know how the latest smokes up when it's ready for consumption.
For sure! I already nipped some dry popcorn. Very nice high that will only get better. It will be another 2weeks before it tastes right and is smooth. The hps cabinet is dormant for the rest of the summer though. Getting too damn hot...

Hey someguy just to let you know that what we were talking about with the intakes worked great! Lowered my temps from like 82ish to 77 no problems. I dropped the a/c to 70 low too. I would suggest doing this man, it really worked perfectly
good to hear. I might retrofit my cabinet with a couple of hoses each.

The bag seems to work just fine...

I like it because I cure a little on the chewey side, so I have to burp my jars a LOT the first few days...

The paper bag eliminates that...

Once they go in the jar, all they need is burp once a day or 2...

I like it...:eyesmoke:
Yea, Ive noticed the bud dryer makes it crispy on the outside only, then with the paper bag it evens it out. I think I burp once a day for 5-10 minutes this way, seems to work out pretty good for me so far.
 

SomeGuy

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UPDATE:
Dry yield for the hps, Parabolic Scrog cabinet:

PPP1 = 64g
PPP2 = 50g
BM = 30g
total: 144g (5.1 Ounces)

Combine that with the 76g from the flouro cabinet and we have:

Total both cabinets: 220g (7.8 Ounces)

~I came in just shy of my goal of 1/2lb, not too shabby (for only two 14"x24" cabinets). There were some seeds in the PPP2, the major reason I did not clone that plant. Seeds/nanners were completely isolated to that plant.

~This new round in the Flouro cabinet is already getting close to being flipped to 12/12. I am going to trim away all the minor branching this time and see how that goes. The HPS wont be fired up till September now with the heat and all. Working on some mods to the air intake on the cabinets. TOM gave me some great ideas. :-)

I should have pictures of some curing bud when things slow down in a few days. Ill also update the new round in the flat scrog cabinet. Thanks for following along all!
 

tom__420

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Looking forward to seeing the curing buds and flouro plants. You make me want to get a t-5 system so bad haha, once I have the money I will be going for it
 

Mammath

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That's some good numbers there SG.
Should keep you in prime smoke nicely until the next harvest.
Great growing dude.
 

SomeGuy

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Looking forward to seeing the curing buds and flouro plants. You make me want to get a t-5 system so bad haha, once I have the money I will be going for it
The t-5 is a great veg light. I took two of htg's 2' compact t-5 fixtures and combined them into one 220w fixture. It still produces good buds too but not as good as the hps.

That's some good numbers there SG.
Should keep you in prime smoke nicely until the next harvest.
Great growing dude.
It is more than enough for sure. I should still have a bunch left by the time I harvest again. I just like a stock pile..LOL Weight doesn't really matter since I don't sell.

Does it say 91°F on that thermometer? How is it getting so hot with a couple CFL's?
Yes...lol.. it says 91 and there are 75w of cfl running. That fixture holds 5 26watters and only 3 are on. that is the exhaust chamber for my flouro flat scrog. I just happen to veg in there too...LOL. I make use of every space. Oddly enough I havent had problems with high temps like that during veg. Once in flower though they hate the high heat. I will be using a little of your idea to make the cabinets cooler. It will be ghetto style but it will work...;)
 

SomeGuy

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So today I powdered 6oz of trim and 5.5oz of vaporizer duff and put it in a crock pot with 7cups of water and 1lb of Ghee. I plan on letting it sit till tomorrow sometime and then straining and separating in the fridge. Then I will do the canna ghee in the pot with just water several times to "Wash" it of undesirables. Well see how it goes. :-) This is the first time I have ever powdered the material being used and also my first time with ghee rather than butter. Ghee is just really PURE butter, so it should be better for thc transfer since the fat content is so high.
 

SomeGuy

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OH! I also took 2oz of powdered trim and put it in a small jam jar filled with olive oil. That is in hot water on the stove (not boiling). I will let it sit there for an hour or so and then let it cool and put the whole thing away for a few weeks. Hopefully I will have some bomb thc olive oil to make pesto with :)
 

Boulderheads

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Those are some bomb looking nuggets you have there!!! I am thinking of trying to fill a 5X5 screen if my current scrog goes well. I am already training a plant now to go under the big screen. I wanna grow a monster too... but don't have the height... sO I am limited to a monster scrog. Thinking of trying to copycat your parabolic setup since I will be using a 1000 watt HPS and will have a problem with light intensity tapering off in the corners. Thanks for the eye candy. Rock on bro
 
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