INCOME TAXES ARE ILLEGAL: so don't pay.

Dolce Vita

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yeah alot of the douches in govt now are smart. we need honest, GOOD, people who care about upholding the constitution and no special interest groups none of it! (smart would be nice though
 

CrackerJax

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The founding fathers meant for the House of representatives to be made up primarily of "common people" who rotate out every 2 years or so. This has been replaced primarily by lawyers and professionals and needs to change. A check of the govt. has been taken away and should be put back in place.
 

jrh72582

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The founding fathers meant for the House of representatives to be made up primarily of "common people" who rotate out every 2 years or so. This has been replaced primarily by lawyers and professionals and needs to change. A check of the govt. has been taken away and should be put back in place.
You're right about this. As of four years ago, the average senate seat cost 1 million dollars (considering campaign and travel costs). A House seat is a little cheaper, but still. This basic fact alone guarantees that the common man will never see himself seated in a position that he rightly deserves. It's sad really...
 

medicineman

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Sorry to be a bother, TOL ... but I'm using an old computer that doesn't have a sound card. So, with that in mind, would you be kind enough to recap the film in your own words, being very specific about what makes Glenn Beck "scum?"


Thanks ...

Vi
Being as how you are so wealthy, why don't you just buy a new computer? 400-600 bucks will get you a decent desk top puter cheapskate.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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You're right about this. As of four years ago, the average senate seat cost 1 million dollars (considering campaign and travel costs). A House seat is a little cheaper, but still. This basic fact alone guarantees that the common man will never see himself seated in a position that he rightly deserves. It's sad really...
As does the artificial capping of the size of the House at the absurdly low figure of 435 members, which is not in line with what the founders intended for the growth of that body.
 

medicineman

New Member
The founding fathers meant for the House of representatives to be made up primarily of "common people" who rotate out every 2 years or so. This has been replaced primarily by lawyers and professionals and needs to change. A check of the govt. has been taken away and should be put back in place.
Well, we do have Dennis Kucinich. He still lives in a modest tract house, one he bought 25 years ago. I'ds say he is the closest thing to the "common man" we have in the house. Alas, he is but one of 450 odd representatives, not much influence there. It's true, most of the congress is bought and paid for long before they reach national recognition.
 

ViRedd

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Well, we do have Dennis Kucinich. He still lives in a modest tract house, one he bought 25 years ago. I'ds say he is the closest thing to the "common man" we have in the house. Alas, he is but one of 450 odd representatives, not much influence there. It's true, most of the congress is bought and paid for long before they reach national recognition.
Hey Med ... Haven't heard you scream about the president being in bed with the corporations since Obama was elected. Has the problem been solved?

Vi
 

TheBrutalTruth

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Well, we do have Dennis Kucinich. He still lives in a modest tract house, one he bought 25 years ago. I'ds say he is the closest thing to the "common man" we have in the house. Alas, he is but one of 450 odd representatives, not much influence there. It's true, most of the congress is bought and paid for long before they reach national recognition.
Sham appearance, and his retirement benefits, health care and income are well beyond what the common man receives, but you of all people probably already know that.

I'd say that the best politician as far as honesty and belief in the principles that he supports would be Ron Paul, who has consistently voted against pay raises for representatives, against tax hikes, against wasteful spending, and makes a habit of returning a portion of his salary to the treasury in addition to refusing to take part of the immoral pension system that the government gives its employees at the expense of the rest of the citizenry.
 

Dolce Vita

Active Member
Sham appearance, and his retirement benefits, health care and income are well beyond what the common man receives, but you of all people probably already know that.

I'd say that the best politician as far as honesty and belief in the principles that he supports would be Ron Paul, who has consistently voted against pay raises for representatives, against tax hikes, against wasteful spending, and makes a habit of returning a portion of his salary to the treasury in addition to refusing to take part of the immoral pension system that the government gives its employees at the expense of the rest of the citizenry.
oh i though ron paul was just a "fucking old guy" haha jk but yeah we need more people like ron paul :roll: i think the founding fathers would be proud of him
 

kmann666

Active Member
Wait, but isn't Canada socialist? I thought all socialist countries have 100% tax rates. I thought they murder at will. I thought they were the root of all evil.
socialist what?? 100% taxed what???
its funny we're right next to your country we are connected we're on the SAME continent,
we are mere hours away, and yet most americans know absolutely NOTHING about Canada, isn't that wierd? Now I ask you why does a country with around 30 million people (Canada), per person actually have more knowledge, than a country with over 300 million people, that's also kind weird. You can't ALL be as unknowledgable as you seem?
Can You?
You have to give the Government exactly half of everything you win in the states, that would really suck, and you pay almost 30-40% taxes on what you make dont you?? that would also suck
LUCK I LIVE IN, AND AM CANADIAN
 

Dolce Vita

Active Member
More americans are on welfare than any other country in the world you know!!!:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:
lets abolish welfare completely, and place in it a system that will loan money to the people for no greater than 2 years and force them to pay it back, and if they don't the govt can take their house. America is a place where you con fail. failing is an option! when the automobile companies came about we didn't see the govt bailing out the horse and buggy company, innovation will succeed. America can be tough or it can be a great place, its up to the individual
 

Rob Roy

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Well, we do have Dennis Kucinich. He still lives in a modest tract house, one he bought 25 years ago. I'ds say he is the closest thing to the "common man" we have in the house. Alas, he is but one of 450 odd representatives, not much influence there. It's true, most of the congress is bought and paid for long before they reach national recognition.
I like Kuchinich. He almost gets it, which is pretty good compared to the rest of em.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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oh i though ron paul was just a "fucking old guy" haha jk but yeah we need more people like ron paul :roll: i think the founding fathers would be proud of him
Yeah, I definitely think he would be capable of earning their respect, and even admiration based on how he has resisted the corrupting influences of power.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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lets abolish welfare completely, and place in it a system that will loan money to the people for no greater than 2 years and force them to pay it back, and if they don't the govt can take their house. America is a place where you con fail. failing is an option! when the automobile companies came about we didn't see the govt bailing out the horse and buggy company, innovation will succeed. America can be tough or it can be a great place, its up to the individual
Damn straight, which is why America has bankruptcy laws. Work, build up your credit, save 20% of what you need to start a business, borrow the rest and try to fly. If you fall, well that's where bankruptcy comes in, and it lets you erase past mistakes and try all over again.

Success and Failure are just two sides of a coin named "Taking a Chance", usually at your dreams.
 

jrh72582

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socialist what?? 100% taxed what???
its funny we're right next to your country we are connected we're on the SAME continent,
we are mere hours away, and yet most americans know absolutely NOTHING about Canada, isn't that wierd? Now I ask you why does a country with around 30 million people (Canada), per person actually have more knowledge, than a country with over 300 million people, that's also kind weird. You can't ALL be as unknowledgable as you seem?
Can You?
You have to give the Government exactly half of everything you win in the states, that would really suck, and you pay almost 30-40% taxes on what you make dont you?? that would also suck
LUCK I LIVE IN, AND AM CANADIAN
Clearly your Canadian education didn't teach you irony and hyperbole. I was making a joke dude?:peace:
 

jrh72582

Well-Known Member
lets abolish welfare completely, and place in it a system that will loan money to the people for no greater than 2 years and force them to pay it back, and if they don't the govt can take their house. America is a place where you con fail. failing is an option! when the automobile companies came about we didn't see the govt bailing out the horse and buggy company, innovation will succeed. America can be tough or it can be a great place, its up to the individual
If we abolish the welfare the system then what do you plan on doing with the kids of these deadbeat parents? Do you make the kids suffer by denying them education and healthcare?

And if you understand capitalism, you surely see why 3-5% unemployment is absolutely necessary for the system to work. Adam Smith (among others) discussed the necessity of unemployed quite clearly. So if we have a system which mandates unemployment on some level, then isn't it a bit harsh to deny them some form of help? It's like breaking someone's legs and denying them crutches. Read up
 

TheBrutalTruth

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If we abolish the welfare the system then what do you plan on doing with the kids of these deadbeat parents? Do you make the kids suffer by denying them education and healthcare?

And if you understand capitalism, you surely see why 3-5% unemployment is absolutely necessary for the system to work. Adam Smith (among others) discussed the necessity of unemployed quite clearly. So if we have a system which mandates unemployment on some level, then isn't it a bit harsh to deny them some form of help? It's like breaking someone's legs and denying them crutches. Read up
Hardly, but the system you're proposing is like watching some one break their legs through stupidity, and then letting them break your legs so that both of you are screwed. Which is absolutely retarded.
 
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