E.O. Barring release of Birth Certificate

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person

Thats what applies, Barry's mom did not have that...

why did you not include that?

Here is the full code:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html

I'm curious as to why his grandmother says she watched him being born in Kenya.

 

[Big P]

wow interesting arguments.


but you are convincing me. if his momma was a good ol american then I say lets give him a pass fuck it.

but he pobably was physically born somwhere else or he wouldnt be hiding it.

 

[Dolce Vita]

Obama IS NOT my president.

 

[hanimmal]

Obama IS NOT my president.

Are you Canadian?

Anyway very interesting stuff. Here is a good clear quick article on it too. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78931

It is getting down to the nitty gritty on it. And there is some convincing stuff that this Penn. Dem senator brings up, if he actually has this recording and can use it in a case it is even more so.

The Obama lawyers may be able to pull out something like Old and senile confused woman that mispoke and get it dropped, but still pretty interesting. I am most interested in his college financial aid papers that would be the final stroke for me.

But you guys are onto something it seems here, congrats (not that it matters) but I no longer think that this is just pure B.S. of the right wing nuts.

I really don't think it matters much, either in him doing his job, or being able to be actually prosecuted during his campaign but if they get more on it this could become a much bigger issue next election.

why did you not include that?

um.. because that wasn't on the article I cut and pasted from, and not being someone that has looked at this (I didn't even know his mom was 18 until I read the article I linked) or a constiutional law scholar I don't know it by heart.

 

[PVS]

so guess the reasoning is...if you have nothing to hide you have no reason for privacy...right?

 

[Dolce Vita]

so guess the reasoning is...if you have nothing to hide you have no reason for privacy...right?

well then y did obama reinstate the patriot act? why are the rules different foe him?

 

[hanimmal]

so guess the reasoning is...if you have nothing to hide you have no reason for privacy...right?

True and since most of us from America on this website are infact breaking the law, we like our privacy!

well then y did obama reinstate the patriot act? why are the rules different foe him?

Because he is the president, they are immune to lawsuits while in office.

By the decision of the Court in Mississippi v. Johnson, in 1867, the President was placed beyond the reach of judicial direction, either affirmative or restraining, in the exercise of his powers, whether constitutional or statutory, political or otherwise, save perhaps for what must be a small class of powers that are purely ministerial.

 

[PVS]

answering a question with an irrelevant bit of trivia or another irrelevant question, or outright misinforming suggestions is just not going to prove anything.
he presented a short form birth certificate, which has all necessary information but doesnt state the doctors name or hospital of birth.
other than that it is all that is required as proof of i.d. for us citizens and for the president. so again i shall enquire as to alex jones' demand:

so guess the reasoning is...if you have nothing to hide you have no reason for privacy...right?

 

[Big P]

answering a question with an irrelevant bit of trivia or another irrelevant question, or outright misinforming suggestions is just not going to prove anything.
he presented a short form birth certificate, which has all necessary information but doesnt state the doctors name or hospital of birth.
other than that it is all that is required as proof of i.d. for us citizens and for the president. so again i shall enquire as to alex jones' demand:

your right lets just not check the papers of the people running for president, then why pretel do I have to show my shit just so I can drive a jallapi down to the burger king?????


you guys fuckin realize its about 550 people in government that run all our lives for 300,000,000 of us.

pls man, its time to ask more questions instead of defending the people who refuse to answer

if he wanted his privacy he should not have run for president. Plain and simple. this is a very important job. hes lucky i dont come into his office every day and give him a fuckin piss test.

this fucker controls my familes destiny

 

[PVS]

only still, and always, a short form birth certificate is all that is legally required.

calling for a change in that particular law may be in order if you feel its really necessary to know
which hospital he was at and which doctor pulled him out of his mom's vagina. personally i don't
care, but if you feel it will add some profound justice to the human condition then god bless.

 

[medicineman]

What the fuck do you idiots need, Some right wing eye witnesses to the live birth. If this is all you've got, then you are pretty lame. Get over it, he's the Pres and he's not going away.

Read the fine print. This is a legal document.

 

[hanimmal]

only still, and always, a short form birth certificate is all that is legally required.

calling for a change in that particular law may be in order if you feel its really necessary to know
which hospital he was at and which doctor pulled him out of his mom's vagina. personally i don't
care, but if you feel it will add some profound justice to the human condition then god bless.

This is a good point, since if a new law does get past from this requiring more it wouldn't matter since a new law can't be used for an old crime.

What the fuck do you idiots need, Some right wing eye witnesses to the live birth. If this is all you've got, then you are pretty lame. Get over it, he's the Pres and he's not going away.

I tried that too it didn't work. There does seem to be some interesting stuff in this though. Not that it will matter, but it is interesting.

 

[PVS]

This is a good point, since if a new law does get past from this requiring more it wouldn't matter since a new law can't be used for an old crime.

so maybe the constitution should be altered as well, so that the government can alter the law at any time
and then go on to prosecute for past infractions of the new law? sure you want to open that can of worms?

facts:

1-he presented a legally acceptable short-form birth certificate
2-he didnt break the law in doing so
3-nobody has the right to demand more from him, or you, or me.

please, if you hate the guy just say "obama's an asshole and i don't like him".
at least that would seem honest and far less trite.

 

[The Warlord]

so maybe the constitution should be altered as well, so that the government can alter the law at any time
and then go on to prosecute for past infractions of the new law? sure you want to open that can of worms?

facts:

1-he presented a legally acceptable short-form birth certificate
2-he didnt break the law in doing so
3-nobody has the right to demand more from him, or you, or me.

please, if you hate the guy just say "obama's an asshole and i don't like him".
at least that would seem honest and far less trite.

Ok, Obamas an asshole and I don't like him.......and I hope a secret service agent goes postal on his ass......

 

[PVS]

thats better

btw, why do you have an avatar of a dude holding his cock?

 

[hanimmal]

so maybe the constitution should be altered as well, so that the government can alter the law at any time
and then go on to prosecute for past infractions of the new law? sure you want to open that can of worms?

facts:

1-he presented a legally acceptable short-form birth certificate
2-he didnt break the law in doing so
3-nobody has the right to demand more from him, or you, or me.

please, if you hate the guy just say "obama's an asshole and i don't like him".
at least that would seem honest and far less trite.

Dude I am on your side! I was saying that you can't do that so even if this was true it wouldn't matter since it was already ruled on. If you go back a few pages you will see I actually have that same pic you posted on one of my posts along with an Obama defense.

But that being said, if there is any truth to the allegations it is an interesting story since it is unique.

And even further I for one could care less, since really what truly would it matter where he was when he was a day or two old? He is still the same person, had the same experiences, ect. Heck he doesn't even remember where he was born, unless what the right says is true because being the son of the devil may allow for being able to remember where you were born.

 

[robert 14617]

chill its because he wasn't born in the us he is ineligible to hold the office

 

[robert 14617]

What the fuck do you idiots need, Some right wing eye witnesses to the live birth. If this is all you've got, then you are pretty lame. Get over it, he's the Pres and he's not going away.

Read the fine print. This is a legal document.

shit MM this blows my theory away ,thanks....crap its the rum im 3 years younger than our pres . wooot

 

[The Warlord]

thats better

btw, why do you have an avatar of a dude holding his cock?

lmao, Good one

Cause I like roy jones and I like cockfighting.

 

[robert 14617]

lmao, Good one

Cause I like roy jones and I like cockfighting.

sword bellies ?