1st Bubbleponic Stealth grow

[Paranoid420]

I have been reading allot about hydro and decided it was time to try it.

I went with a 10g container and 4 net pods to start with. I bought some rockwool cubes and Hydroton grow rocks to use as my medium.

I already had the airpumps and lights so just used them to save some bank. The lights are 2x65w dual cf 6500k/10000k bulbs for a total of 130w. These should be good for veg ( I hope ) when i go to flower I will build a new cfl set up with 8 42w 2600k lights.

Its been only a few days since the set up but 2 of the sprouts are looking good and 1 is getting there second set of leaves already. Im going to use Stealth Grow, Bloom and micro nutes. Will start out with a little and add more as I go.

I have no idea what type of seeds I used the only thing I know is there was about 10 seeds in my last bag and it was some pretty good stuff.

I will update each week on the progress of what I hope will be my ladies!! Feel free to post any questions or correct me if im not doing something properly.

 

[Paranoid420]

Finally got the stealth cabinet built. This should work better then the cardboard box I was using!!! It's a 48x24x24 Not my best work but it will do!!

I used a few exhaust fans I had kicking around to vent it. the top goes outside and the bottom brings in cool air.

I should point out that this is in a room that I bild out years ago for my reef aquarium filtration system. I have since downsided the reef and no longer needed the space. Humitidy was an issue thats why I needed to close it up.

 

[Paranoid420]

2 of the plants are doing very well so far the other 2 have a bit of an attitude The rootshave hit the water and the growth has been amazing for only 5 days. Temp and hum are still holding steady. I still can't to get over the growth rate of this system!!! Im going to change the rez at the end of the week and increase nutes a little more to 1/3.

 

[trayne]

lookin good keep it up!

 

[Paranoid420]

Thanks for the props trayne!! Looking forward to each day to see how much they grow. I just hope there going to be fems

 

[trayne]

no prob. i bet itll be good chances!

 

[amrock]

Q? Do you have a submersible pump in your tank?

 

[Paranoid420]

Q? Do you have a submersible pump in your tank?

No the only pumps are the air pumps. I filled to half way up the netpods but below the rockwool till the roots grow down into the water. The splashing water reaches the rockwool. Im using 2 air pumps with 3 bubble bars. this creates plenty of water movement.

 

[Paranoid420]

Q- How long should I veg for?

 

[Roseman]

Q? Do you have a submersible pump in your tank?

I don' think he is using a TRUE Bubbleponics system, he just used the word Bubbleponics in it's SLANG meaning.

 

[Roseman]

Q- How long should I veg for?

If it is Indica, and you have plenty of room for Height Growth, I'd Veg 4 to 6 weeks. THEN BLOOM for 8 or 9 weeks.
Sativa is going to take 18 to 26 weeks for BLOOM, so VEG as little as possible..or you'll need 12 feet of Height space.

 

[Paranoid420]

I don' think he is using a TRUE Bubbleponics system, he just used the word Bubbleponics in it's SLANG meaning.

Roseman should I run a sub pump with tubing to the netpods? the roots are in the water now didnt think I needed it. Am I wrong here? please correct me if im doing it wrong. thanks!!

Also not sure what type it is. it was bagweed not that bad of stuff very little seeds in it very mellow long lasting full high.

 

[Paranoid420]

Roseman I am also using the stealth Hydo nutes. following your directions that came with it to a tee. working out nice. should i rez change each week or every other week? thanks for your help.

 

[Roseman]

Roseman should I run a sub pump with tubing to the netpods? the roots are in the water now didnt think I needed it.
You don't need it now. The advantage is when you first start, you can start a seed in the cup, with Feeder Tubes and get a vERY rapid growth spurt, adnt eh roots hit the deep water FAST..

Am I wrong here? please correct me if im doing it wrong. thanks!!

Also not sure what type it is. it was bagweed not that bad of stuff very little seeds in it very mellow long lasting full high.

You got a good System, don't let anyone tell you any different. It's a DWC system, with Bubbling Air Stones.

I will tell you that itty-bitty tiny seeds are usually Sativa, and giant seeds are normally Indica.


Indica= Short Bushy plants, very large giant wide leaves

Sativa = Tall, lean, skinny stalk plants, narrow skinny long leaves

 

[Roseman]

Roseman I am also using the stealth Hydo nutes. following your directions that came with it to a tee. working out nice. should i rez change each week or every other week? thanks for your help.

The VERY FIRST TIME, at set-up, put SIX gallons of water in the tank, and adjust the water's PH, in the tank then. (you will never adjust the pH in the tank again) Take a black magic marker and mark a line inside the tank at the 6 gallon water line level.

Start the seeds in the cubes or in a wet papertowel.

Then, a day or two later, you pH test it, and add pH UP or DOWN to a half gallon of water and add that half of gallon of water to the tank. Then remove a half gallon, leaving 6 gallons.

When your seeds have germinated or sprouted or cracked, or been added to the tank,
then about a week later, 6 to 7 days, you will have your first node of leaves.
Add 1/4 packet or 1/4 dose of nutes (Grow and Micro nutes) to a gallon of water, pH adjust that one gallon and add it to the tank. If you are way over 6 gallons, remove some water. Babies are hungry, but not ready for a full meal deal.

Once a day, every day, you check the water level and pH. It will be 2, maybe 3 weeks before they start drinking a half gallon a day, that needs to be replaced.

As they grow, about every other day to every 2 or 3 days, you add another 1/4 packet, until you have used a full dose or full packet of nutes.

After ten to 14 days, drain it, and add one gallon at a time, that is pH balanced, adding 5 gallons. In the 6th gallon, add one full packet of GROW and MICRO nutes, shake and stir it good, before adding it.

After 2 or 3 weeks, they will start drinking one gallon a day.

Every 7 to ten days, you DRAIN AND REPLINISH.

FEEDING IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A PPM METER.
You will daily add one gallon of pH water TO REPLACE THE ONE GALLON MISSING. If the water in the tank tests a pH of 7.0 (too high for example) and you know you want it lower, make one gallon of 5.0 water, (or 5.6, or 5.7, or 5.8,) and it will make the tank about 6.0 or in that neighborhood. ALSO, in that one gallon of water added daily, add 1/6 packet or dose of new nutes.
If they drank 1/6 of the tank's water, they ate 1/6 of the nutes, so you need to replace that 1/6 that was consumed.


Want to see a GROWTH SPURT?
DRAIN AND REPLINISH

First two grows I did, I syphoned the water out into a 5 gallon bucket with an Aquarium syphon hose. That was really a chore!

Then I learned to prop the lid open about three or 4 inches, STILL LEAVING THE LID ON THE TANK, BUT PROPPED UP ON ONE END and reach in and take the Irrigation Hub off of the pump, and with a 1/2 inch hose, use my fist as a coupling, sit my fist on the upward pump tube with the hose half way in my fist, on top of the pump, and let the pump.....pump the water out into a 5 gallon bucket. It works good for me.

You can also use a WET-VAC, or a small pump to drain it.

A drill pump (you attach it to an electric drill) is $10 at Lowes.

Let me add here, that Roots love the AIR BATH they
get during a Drain and Replinish. This is a very important step. The more often you can do it, the faster the plants will grow.


Remember what I am telling you here.

Pot plants sprout with two round leaves, called
cotyledons . Do NOT count those as leaves, they are really the inside of the seed.
AFTER 4 full leaves appear, use 1/4 dose of nutes.

When you start a new grow, and AFTER the seeds have sprouted, and you ahve done one feeding, you do a Drain and Replinish at 10 to 14 days, then every 7 to 10 days.

AFTER the first week, the water is still fresh, and you may have only added 1/4 packet of nutes or 1/4 dose of nutes, to the tank at the end of the first week IF you saw two full leaves, besides those FIRST two round ones,

During the 2nd week, you probably added 1/4 DOSE OF NUTES 2 more times 3 or 4 days apart.

AFTER 14 days from germination, you do the first DRAIN AND REPLINISH. Then, again, every 7 to ten days you DRAIN AND REPLINISH. I do a complete DRAIN AND REPLINISH every Saturday afternoon.
BUT, every Wednesday, half way through the week, I drain the tank into a bucket, pH test the bucket and adjust it, and then, after ten minutes of having an empty tank AND LETTING THE ROOTS GET AN AIR BATH, I add it right back to the tank. That way I did not use ANY extra NUTES OR too many nutes, but I did give the roots an air bath.
You will see a RAPID GROWTH SPURT the very next day.


IF you do not have a ppm meter...........
and you do a DRAIN and REPLINISH........Try to think in term of SIXTHS. You got 6 plants, and 6 gallons of water in the tank. AFTER ABOUT the first two weeks, you are going to come home from work one day and find the plants drank half a gallon of water, and need to add half a gallon of water back. Half a gallon is half a SIXTH, so add back half a sixth of a packet of nutes back and half gallon of pH adjusted water.

Later, AFTER about three or 4 weeks, you will check the plants and they will have drank one whole gallon of water in one day. ONE gallon is 1/6 of the tank's water, and if 1/6 of the water is gone, then 1/6 of the nutes are gone, so add back one gallon of pH adjusted water and 1/6 does of nutes.
AFTER 3 or 4 weeks, you will find they drank two gallons in one day. Then add two gallons of water, (1/3 of the tank's water) so also add 1/3 packet of nutes.

IF you got the drain plugs, (little black faucets for the tank) make sure you use some plumbers glue or they will leak. The problem with using the DRAIN PLUGS is most of us have to sit our tanks on the floor, making it very difficult to drain the tank that way.

I'm often asked do I drain it out 100%? NO, I don't, I always leave about 1 inch of water or half a gallon. I'm too lazy to get it all, and ti doesn't seem to matter.
I'm often ask do I clean the tank when I drain it?
No, I don't let it get dirty to start with. I do not use nutes that color the water or roots, until about the last few weeks, i do use some Liquid Karma. But I still do not let trash or any thing foreign into the tank to clean out.


If you don't understand this, ask me. It is part of the work or tasks involved in growing.

 

[Paranoid420]

Wow thanks for the info. much appreciated!!!

 

[Paranoid420]

Roseman, I just ordered some ph down from SHydro. will thatl keep my ph steady at or around 6? just tested its a little high at 7

 

[Paranoid420]

Ph is a little high at 7 have some ph down coming fed-ex soon so will solve that problem. big grow in 1 day ( I just like posting photos ) You can see the diff in 1 day.

 

[Roseman]

Make sure you follow the instructions on that pH down, and use ONLY 1/4 teaspoon (or 1 gram) at a time, within a 4 hour period. Don't change it too much, too fast.

 

[coldme]

Im trying to get my system together Ive read rosman thread and a 8 gallon tote seem small I went to wal-mart and I got a 18 gallon tote is that too much or will the same things that are in the 8 gallon tote work for the 18 gallon tote also​