GreenX ~ Aero Trials ... Grow 1 (w/ Pictures)

[GreenphoeniX]

For those of you who are interested, the yield of these four plants, dried, trimmed and plucked from main stems came to be:

Total: 262.5 grams

1 x AK-48 = 35 grams
3 x Lady Sativa = 227.5 grams

The Lady Sativa bus look like a lot because they're so light and fluffy, they don't weigh much, but 1 gram looks like twice as much as 1 gram of the AK haha.
Not a bad result, got most of the flaws ironed out now. Time to move onto bigger and better things!!!

Cheers.

 

[zechbro]

hey pheonix whats your feed schdule with the growzilla and budzilla? how many mls at what weeks of flower etc? would it be similar to soil?

 

[southernsmokejuggalo]

damn it man... im so happy for you. lol. great looking grow. +++respect.

 

[GreenphoeniX]

hey pheonix whats your feed schdule with the growzilla and budzilla? how many mls at what weeks of flower etc? would it be similar to soil?

Slightly altered it according to EC but was generally about 3.5ml/L of Budzilla (same with grow during veg) - Used Organic Head Enhancer when it was recommended on the bottle (coz I already had some laying around anyway) ... Also chucked in the odd bit of Earth Juice Microblast and Catalyst ... Just like the odd 20ml or something here and there haha.

Planned to flush for last 2 weeks but plants were ready a week earlier than expected so only flushed for 1 week in the end. Plants yellowed nicely coz of it though!

Hope this helps

Cheers.

damn it man... im so happy for you. lol. great looking grow. +++respect.

Cheers man!

 

[zechbro]

shit 3.5ml a litre aitn much a, tyhe bottle recomends 5ml a litre... im in soil and my week 7( last feeding with nutrients b4 flush) feeding is 18ml budzilla, 5 mls of the catalyst, and .5mls of superthrive in a 3l milk bottle... do you think thats to much? plants dont seem to be minding it to much

 

[dregs]

For those of you who are interested, the yield of these four plants, dried, trimmed and plucked from main stems came to be:

Total: 262.5 grams

1 x AK-48 = 35 grams
3 x Lady Sativa = 227.5 grams

The Lady Sativa bus look like a lot because they're so light and fluffy, they don't weigh much, but 1 gram looks like twice as much as 1 gram of the AK haha.
Not a bad result, got most of the flaws ironed out now. Time to move onto bigger and better things!!!

Cheers.

Nice haul man.. I am currently in the beginning of an Aero from seed and things seem to be going slow at the moment. But +rep for a great grow journal. helps keep my spirits up.

-D

 

[GreenphoeniX]

shit 3.5ml a litre aitn much a, tyhe bottle recomends 5ml a litre... im in soil and my week 7( last feeding with nutrients b4 flush) feeding is 18ml budzilla, 5 mls of the catalyst, and .5mls of superthrive in a 3l milk bottle... do you think thats to much? plants dont seem to be minding it to much

For soil that's not too much at all man. I when I was growing in soil I was using Earth Juice at like 3 times the recommended amount, no adverse affects. But that's the beauty of organics, it's hard to over do (it's really bad if you do over do it though haha, that shit does not flush!) Sounds like what you're doing is fine to me man. Soil and hydro and aero are all quite different.

Aero optimizes nutrient uptake so the plants are getting more out of what you're putting in, hence why you need to use less. In true aero growing (T.A.G) - which I don't do lol - you will quite likely get nutrient burn at 5ml/L (depending on strain a bit).
3.5ml/L is what's recommending if it says 5ml/L on the label when growing in an aero system.
You then want to alter you're dosage according to EC and pH the nutrient solution before adding it to the rez. I never bothered to change my rez for the entire grow so I often didn't have to add any nutrients and just used straight pH'd water. Not recommended by any means, but if you can get away with it, saves some hassle .... My system isn't in a prime location to be changing the rez every week or 2 haha.

Nice haul man.. I am currently in the beginning of an Aero from seed and things seem to be going slow at the moment. But +rep for a great grow journal. helps keep my spirits up.

Always takes longer with seedlings though haha, everything does damn it!!! ... Once they hit their veg stage well and truly they'll take off and grow eXtremely fast

Cheers.

 

[khordes]

WOW!!! So very impressed, All Cudos to you GreenP, I have been reading many threads and this is definitely one of the most helpful, read it straight through! Perfect grow journal, great Answers/ questions, PERFECT! I am now setting up my own aero setup based on a few different threads and especially yours, you've inspired me! I will start a thread like this one when i get the final pieces to construct it, I can only hope my journal can walk in your shadow... Thanks again! Appreciate the Effort! Keep Fighting the Good Fight!

PS. You dont have any Co2 setup?

 

[Mitus]

Aero is the way to go . Nice work bro

 

[GreenphoeniX]

WOW!!! So very impressed, All Cudos to you GreenP, I have been reading many threads and this is definitely one of the most helpful, read it straight through! Perfect grow journal, great Answers/ questions, PERFECT! I am now setting up my own aero setup based on a few different threads and especially yours, you've inspired me! I will start a thread like this one when i get the final pieces to construct it, I can only hope my journal can walk in your shadow... Thanks again! Appreciate the Effort! Keep Fighting the Good Fight!

PS. You dont have any Co2 setup?

Thanks. I' sure you'll work wonders with your aero setup.

No I don't run any Co2. I don't like it because nobody has been able to prove to me that the increase in yield is worth more than the extra cost and effort that goes into using Co2 ... Besides, during the dark period (when the plants aren't performing photosynthesis) they're actually producing Co2... That's my Co2 injection right there lol

Aero is the way to go . Nice work bro

Cheers.

 

[khordes]

No I don't run any Co2. I don't like it because nobody has been able to prove to me that the increase in yield is worth more than the extra cost and effort that goes into using Co2 ... Besides, during the dark period (when the plants aren't performing photosynthesis) they're actually producing Co2... That's my Co2 injection right there lol

I just made a simple co2 system that was very easy to setup and very cheap! Not too much upkeep just a change once per week, and visible results (co2 production) I built this fermentation unit, and very expandable check it out, i just posted it https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/200112-simple-fermentation-diy-co2-producing.html#post2569743

And thanks again! Cheers and happy Growing!

 

[GreenphoeniX]

I just made a simple co2 system that was very easy to setup and very cheap! Not too much upkeep just a change once per week, and visible results (co2 production) I built this fermentation unit, and very expandable check it out, i just posted it Simple Fermentation DIY, CO2 producing setup

And thanks again! Cheers and happy Growing!
Hydroponicz

Sweet as. I'll check out that thread, I don't think I'll bother with Co2 still though, I get more than enough bud as it is. I'm not a commercial grower so not to bothered by too many extra nick nacks - I don't do additives these days either! haha

Cheers.

 

[zechbro]

I just made a simple co2 system that was very easy to setup and very cheap! Not too much upkeep just a change once per week, and visible results (co2 production) I built this fermentation unit, and very expandable check it out, i just posted it https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/200112-simple-fermentation-diy-co2-producing.html#post2569743

And thanks again! Cheers and happy Growing!

did yiou notice a fair amount of change in growth when using co2?

 

[khordes]

did yiou notice a fair amount of change in growth when using co2?

I would have to say i notice more vigorous growth, smaller and more hearty plants, I believe with even the presence of extra co2 it helps, and its easy, so why not do everything possible for the highest quality bud possible, its all about quality!

 

[DrGreenFinger]

I would have to say i notice more vigorous growth, smaller and more hearty plants, I believe with even the presence of extra co2 it helps, and its easy, so why not do everything possible for the highest quality bud possible, its all about quality!

how does co2 affect the quality?

 

[khordes]

how does co2 affect the quality?

Well... In photosynthesis, the manufacturing of "food" (carbohydrates) is done with Water, Light energy, co2 and Chlorophyll. Chlorophyll(the plant materia that gives the plant its green color) converts co2, water, and light energy into carbohydrates and oxygen(for us!)

SO... According to how all plants actually work... the benifits would be more "food" for the plants with a higher concentration of co2!
The carbohytdrates are used in all funtions of the plant including stem, leaf, flower and root growth.
SO... It would make better buds, healthier plants and overall better quality.

Cheers!

 

[ZEN MASTER]

Dude excellent thread. Just thought i'd stop by and say hello,"hello!" also nice setup, and nice yield. How was the smoke, or have you tried it yet. To me it looks like it should be pretty freaking good. Hit us up with a smoke report!! btw what happened to the blue venom you had going. got some pics of mine in about in it's fifth week.


Peace!!!
-zen-

 

[GreenphoeniX]

btw what happened to the blue venom you had going. got some pics of mine in about in it's fifth week.

Mine is currently in a new Aero system I'm experimenting with. So far the system is flawed, needs extreme refining haha. I have a couple clones of BV but just one flowering, in bout week 1 or 2 now I think. No buds showing yet.
Will post some pics in a few weeks time when there's something interesting to look at haha.

Smoke from the Aero - Strong. Pretty much been told a million times that it's the strongest smoke around the area at the moment. From people who know I grew it, know how I grew it and people who are clueless where it came from alike. Everybody thinks it's extreme haha - Which it is. Taste is ok, nothing amazing, flush seemed to get rid of any chemical flavouring and the jars that have been left untouched the longest are home to the tastiest, smoothest and most potent of the produce... I guess that's the joy of a decent cure!!!

Definitely room for improvement, but I'm so busy with different strains, phenotypes and grow setups at the moment I haven't really been able to tune this thing perfect. Need to find the strain and pheno of that strain I want to use a few times in a row yet! Then I can work on refining the aero and tuning it into that strain.

These are the strains I'm trying to decide between right now, any input would be appreciated! - As u can see, it's a difficult choice:

Most likely:

AK-47(Serious Seeds)
Super Skunk (White Label/Sensi Seeds)
White Widow (Nirvana) - I know Nirvana is not known for stable phenos or genetics, but they definitely produce some killers if u find a lucky gem.

Possibly:

Afghan Kush (White Label/Sensi Seeds)
B-52 (Nirvana)
Kali Mist (Serious Seeds) - Haven't flowered yet and only have one female!
Super Lemon Haze (Green House Seeds) - Had to find the ideal pheno!
White Russian (Serious Seeds) - Haven't flowered yet and only have one female!

 

[growinman]

Well, might I say I'd go with the AK47 from Serious....... If you think the stuff you grow is so much stronger the way you grow now, oh boy.......thier AK is awesome if you can get a good pheno. The WW by Nirvana I haven't run but thinnk I've heard similar to what you've heard. But I've only ran G13-Labs WW to worse reviews than most, I believe. Well, it was ONE freebie seed I got last year with an order of SS's AK, small and white it was...... It's the best I've grown by a long shot! Roots in 5-7 days, veg until the roots are out of the baskets(1 week or less), then straight to 12/12. Get about 34-38" and the least I've gotten off of one plant is well over a zip, usually about 3-4. And all 12/12 55 days, cloudy trics----way out smells the AK(which had been the worst I've had to deal with smell wise) so double up even for the ak........
I do aero/nft and love it all the way(out of the box!!): A GH AF20 that I modded some and now a AF 60 I am modding(new res and frame and manifold<--more space). It's all in the spray lines with these...... I have a 35site diy aero/nft that I put away.......<----StinkBud's design; and is great, just not what I am doing......atm

Hey, Great growing to you!! I hope to catch you on your next run and follow along!

gman

 

[GreenphoeniX]

Well, might I say I'd go with the AK47 from Serious....... If you think the stuff you grow is so much stronger the way you grow now, oh boy.......thier AK is awesome if you can get a good pheno.

Yea mate, I have Serious Seeds AK-47, Kali Mist and White Russian - Haven't samples them yet though, have some mother plants ready to produce some clones though!!!

Hey, Great growing to you!! I hope to catch you on your next run and follow along!

Cheers man! Hope you do check it out.

The 40 plant aero system I built is proving to be quite difficult, especially since I'm running so many different plants instead of 40 clones of one phenotype <- Which would be the ideal way to go!!!
So far, through my experiments and ever growing experience, I have come to the conclusion that I'll get the best results (for my setup) by modding my 40 plant setup, into a 2 plant setup and running them under some netting (ScrOG) ... Using strains such as AK-47, Super Skunk and B-52 - As well as the occasional tasty White Widow etc. to keep the special stock up! I should be easily able to pull 1 gram per watt (or more) each harvest under a nice 600W!!! ... Although I do need to invest in a new shade/reflector and bulb next crop!

Cheers all