i'm not sure. i'm going out there tomorrow, i think. i got a bunch of new tubing. 32mm heavy walled. 5 or 6 full lengths. good stuff, top dollar. i meant to get a carbide scribe today. i had it in my hand. i could go grab one tomorrow. the way i do some of them now there is no way to sign them in color. everyone is usong a scribe now. my marbles are worth more if i scribe them with my initials and the year. "fdd 09".while we at it....you got any nice pipes with your sig. on it?