could a plant turn hermie if...

doc111

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its a clone of a female and the lights accidently go on and off and on and off...lol
The short answer is yes. It is difficult to predict what is going to make a plant hermie but light leaks and messed up light schedules are things considered to cause significant enough stress to cause this. Why are your lights going on and off? Are you using an old motel neon sign for light or something?
 

Doctor Cannabis

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The possibility of a plant turning hermie depends not just on stress (which such a on-off thing is), but also on the genetical stability and resistance to stress.

Acutally, some growers believe that turning hermie isn't actually caused by stress, but by the instability caused by feminizing the seeds.

To answer shortly, probably not, if it's a solid strain, probably yes, if it's bagseed, instable or still a seedling.
 

The Lorax

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its got good genetics, its a clone from the cannibus club here. and the reason the lighting dela was the lights came on and i had to take the plant outside to spray with serenade which stinks then i brought it back in and turned the lights off so that they wouldnt burn the plant after being sprayed then like 15 minutes later after the plant aired out i turned them back on.
 

doc111

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its got good genetics, its a clone from the cannibus club here. and the reason the lighting dela was the lights came on and i had to take the plant outside to spray with serenade which stinks then i brought it back in and turned the lights off so that they wouldnt burn the plant after being sprayed then like 15 minutes later after the plant aired out i turned them back on.
The subject of nature vs. nurture is a highly controversial subject in which you will seldom have 2 people agree. Will a plant turn hermie if exposed to stress or is it solely genetics? What are stable genetics? Who defines what is stable? How can a person know if the plants he or she has contains stable genetics? Most of the evidence we have to go on is highly anecdotal and unreliable. There just isn't a whole lot of trully scientific data on this subject. I believe personally that both are correct. I also think that without years and years of meticulous study there is almost no way to know what role genetics and stress play in causing hermies. I was always told that the theory behind why cannabis turns hermie is because the genetics could contain the hermaphroditic trait. Also Cannabis is not like other plants that contain both sex organs. The theory behind why cannabis turns hermie due to stress is simply put "survival". When a plant experiences some sort of environmental stress the plant wants to reproduce and pass on it's genetics to the next generation. In order to do this in the absence of male plants or pollen the plant switches on the hermie trait in a last ditch effort to make seeds in order to carry on it's genetic material into the next generation. I don't know which is more true but both sound like reasonable theories based on what I can remember from biology class.
 

Phenom420

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It could, Ive had same with some clones and they were on odd light schedule and didn't hermi, so far I haven't even had one yet.

How about a pic?
 

doc111

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First off there will be no fight develop. I've already read that thread. I simply said that there isn't much scientific evidence to support the theory that hermaphroditism is solely genetic. Just like there isn't much scientific evidence to support that hermies are caused by stress. If someone on here has done there own scientific study on this I would like to see the data. Until there is significant scientific data we don't really know now do we. You came out and qualified my whole post as wrong. Based on what? I made a statement saying it could be one or the other or both. How in the hell does that make me wrong? Please show me what part of what I said was wrong and please back it up with hard scientific data, not threads on RIU.
 

Phenom420

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First off there will be no fight develop. I've already read that thread. I simply said that there isn't much scientific evidence to support the theory that hermaphroditism is solely genetic. Just like there isn't much scientific evidence to support that hermies are caused by stress. If someone on here has done there own scientific study on this I would like to see the data. Until there is significant scientific data we don't really know now do we. You came out and qualified my whole post as wrong. Based on what? I made a statement saying it could be one or the other or both. How in the hell does that make me wrong? Please show me what part of what I said was wrong and please back it up with hard scientific data, not threads on RIU.
LOL I put luda on my ignore (only fool on here to make it there, how sad)
he just trys to get under your skin, also then you can't get drawn into any arguments.

Im starting to wonder about light stress causing hermis or not myself, Id done alot to some plants and no hermi
had bad lighting, bad timing, nute/ph lockups all kinds of fun and still more females than males.

Id def listen more to proof than "that's what I know and how I grow and I'm never wrong"
:joint:
 

Nolan

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goddamn what are any of you guys talking about??....a pollinated female will not pollinate other females, it will just produce seeds at the bud location where it was pollinated...though it can happen if you have excess pollen floating around after you tried to pollinate, so try to keep the seeded bud sites contained...
if you have a hermi(which is NOT a pollinated female) next to a female, then yes it will pollinate others because it has male flowers...


This is from that thread, if it clears anything up.
 

dgk4life

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yes luda your right cuz a woman (human) and marijuana (plant) r exactly the same thing... face it bro u dont know it all
 

doc111

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The only point I wanted to make is that we really don't know with 100% certainty what causes hermies. I recently had a confirmed female clone, that was at least 10 generations old go hermie on me. What caused it? I don't know because it didn't get any stress that I was aware of. Was it buried deep in the genetics of the plant? I can't say with certainty. Why is it that I have stressed the shit out of plants in the past and they didn't hermie? I don't know enough about the genetics of cannabis to say for 100% that hermies are only caused by this or that and not caused by this or that. I don't have a laboratory or the equipment to extract the DNA necessary to test the genetics of a plant. So all I can do is make a guess based on my own observations and that is that I think it is both genetic and environmental. I think the degree of influence depends on the inherited genetics of a given plant. We know that hermies can be created by chemical induction which in my understanding was a form of stress on the plant. Maybe I'm wrong about that and if so I will glady concede that I am wrong. But you've gotta show me hard evidence. :peace:
 
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