Getting off the grid

tahoe58

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Well I think there can be a happy medium between on the grid and off the grid and not a slave to modern expectations. we can change our own expectations and adjust or make choices that are more in line with what we each individually value.
 

tahoe58

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I do believe you can get them commercially. Or I could take you to some of my friends and they could teach you how to make a proper one ...wait ...no my friends make igloos ...ok ok .... wait, the forest natives ....they lived in ....in ....shit I can't remember.
 

tahoe58

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hahahaha .... yea prolly .... but .... we won't tell those who might care .... 'n I'll just keep puffing, and you'll just keep telling me and we'll just keep not telling anyone else? deal? good. Ok. so back to the topic at hand .... what I have seen that is very cool are Mongolian Yurts that are supported on massive pilings (natural/constructed?) - these are very cool. I believe being used by some ecotourist places .... very sweet construction methodology.
 

Getcrunk

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It would be sweet to get off the grid. Like other people said you're going to need a large up-front cash supply for the enourmous fees involved. Solar panels run quite a bit. And setting them up, getting the power storage batteries etc costs money. Then theres the food source. I'd assume it would be very hard to establish a food source for yourself other than vegetables. And to have enough vegetables for yourself for a year is going to take a large garden. Raising cattle is expensive especially if you're not going to be butchering them for cash like farmers do. You're talking sustaining a complete farm without selling any of your meat/milk/vegetables. Its not going to work unless you inherit grand-daddy's estate which includes an already established farm. No matter what you will have to be on the grid somewhat realistically. It would be sweet though. If I hit the jack-pot on the lotto we'll do it together man I promise! Sounds awesome.

Check out the show "Off The Grid" its a documentary by Survivorman Les Stroud. He bought a shitload of land up in canada and made it off the grid. You can probably find it on some torrent site or somewhere.
 

theloadeddragon

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Well, getting off the grid is.......EXPENSIVE!

So.... get a job... :lol:

You'll need land. At least 3 acres that will produce vegetables, and , ahem, herb. You'll need meat (?) which means at least 4 acres per cow for a 100% pasture fed beef. I would say that 10 acres at a MINIMUM would be needed. Better to have 20 though. A greenhouse and a root cellar should be added.

Just to throw a figure out there, but I'd say to get off the grid and be debt free would cost about 200k. Cost of land, equipment, housing, solar,wind, wells,pumps, etc.
You Rock so much shit! I love you.... shhh don't tell my wife..... its your avatars fault..... and I would say 40 acres before I felt secure...... but 10 with home solar etc for 200k HELL YEAH.......... then UPGRADE ;)........ Im following that path ^^^^ what are you up to...... you have suddenly caught my interest :)
 

theloadeddragon

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I do believe you can get them commercially. Or I could take you to some of my friends and they could teach you how to make a proper one ...wait ...no my friends make igloos ...ok ok .... wait, the forest natives ....they lived in ....in ....shit I can't remember.
Umachas....... bark houses :) Indiginous peoples of yosemite valley and all throughout California live in them..... I could teach you how to make one :)



Has anyone ever thought of doing this? They make them quite nice and roomy inside.
Done it........ rabbit skin over a tule matrice, bear skin blanket...... deer skin for insulation during the winter...... one of the coziest most comfortable places :)........ mmmmmm and sleeping in the round house during ceremonies........

Tahoe, you're over your limit... :lol:
I plead the 5th ;)bongsmilie :peace:
 

CrackerJax

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I am waiting for the mid term elections to see if the country can right itself again. If not, I have already moved my assets offshore except for my property holdings. Now I am simply waiting to see if it is time to move myself offshore. :wink:
 

theloadeddragon

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hehehe.... I love em ;)...... pitch one of those in your garden with some dogs...... no one will mess with your plants lol hehehe j/k
 

captain chronizzle

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best thing bout a yurt is, they are movable. if you had a lil more land you could have 2 sites. a winter and summer.

no one mentioned growing hemp for fuel and clothes, you can burn hemp oil in a generator. a lil transester action and you got b100. you could drive your dIEsel to town 4 ICE CREAM.

i think a lot of people need to start at simply recycling before thinking bout getting off anything. lowering your foot print is a must, for cutting the cord. the reality is, you shit in your own yard, when ur in d sticks.
 

CrackerJax

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I bought 50 acres of land on Prince Edward Island, Canada a few years back and that was my plan. I wanted to build a big sturdy deck on concrete pilings and in the summer drive up the coast with my Yurt. Pitch it up and spend the summer eating Lobster and Mussels, then take it down at the end of the season.

The wife did NOT like the idea. :lol:
 
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