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[wyteboi]

dude, i posted a pic of a guy cutting the exact same cut with a torch. GR responded by saying the cut in my pic wasn't done yet. at that point i felt i was dealing with an idiot so i gave up.

i would not call that "destroyed".

i think you of all people KNOW i was referring to alot more then just one post...but you knew that

and you have offered? you, by your own words, have "joined" a group of opinions. what do YOU think?

In my own words , i joined this thread with others who "joined" this thread like yourself.
If gr or drama or anyone else (except some of yours) posts a link to something i READ or watch it.....(including ricky and cj) That does not mean i joined GR or keen's opinions. I do agree with most of them though....











you can proly stop waiting now...

 

[fdd2blk]

wait, i thought the whole point was a new investigation. now you tell me to stop waiting.

and YOU said "joined". that's why i quoted you.

you don't read my links? why?




*confused, but still waiting

 

[wyteboi]

and what do I have to offer.......well lets see, you can start with the post you are jumping on, i think there might be something in there you missed? Maybe a small question you , cj, or ricky can answer. look hard enough you might find more

i have questions along with the engineers , firefighters, scientist, eyewittnesses, on so on and so on and until those questions are answered i will continue my mission for a new investigation..... its not that big a deal.

 

[fdd2blk]

lets take ONE SMALL topic. the cut beam.

COMMON SENSE states that cutting ANYTHING at a slant like that is THE most practical. the slag falls out of the way. so regardless if it was cut with thermite or cut with a rescue torch it is still going to look EXACTLY the same. this is NOT valid evidence for either side. i can admit that, can anyone else?

 

[fdd2blk]

and what do I have to offer.......well lets see, you can start with the post you are jumping on, i think there might be something in there you missed? Maybe a small question you , cj, or ricky can answer. look hard enough you might find more

i have questions along with the engineers , firefighters, scientist, eyewittnesses, on so on and so on and until those questions are answered i will continue my mission for a new investigation..... its not that big a deal.

wtf part of "waiting" don't YOU understand?


*waiting

 

[wyteboi]

lets take ONE SMALL topic. the cut beam.

COMMON SENSE states that cutting ANYTHING at a slant like that is THE most practical. the slag falls out of the way. so regardless if it was cut with thermite or cut with a rescue torch it is still going to look EXACTLY the same. this is NOT valid evidence for either side. i can admit that, can anyone else?

i can admit that with u fdd..

 

[Keenly]

scholars for 9/11 truth

http://911scholars.org/


scholars for 911 truth and justice

http://stj911.org/


lawyers for 9/11 truth

http://lawyersfor911truth.blogspot.com/


veterans for 9/11 truth

http://www.v911t.org/


Doctors for 9/11 truth

http://mp911truth.org/


Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth

http://www.ae911truth.org/


Pilots for 9/11 truth

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/


Firefighters for 9/11 truth

http://firefightersfor911truth.org/


The Muslim-Chirstian-Jewish for 9/11 truth

http://mujca.com/


Political Leaders for 9/11 truth

http://pl911truth.com/


Religious leaders for 9/11 truth

http://rl911truth.org/


Boston for 9/11 truth

http://www.boston911truth.org/


San Diego for 9/11 truth

http://sdcgj.netrootz.com/web_pages/view_web_page.asp?group=30&page=109


Marines for 9/11 truth

http://truthaction.org/USMC.html




the waiting room is packed

 

[wyteboi]

wtf part of "waiting" don't YOU understand?


*waiting

well in that case i'll wait with you






*waiting *

 

[fdd2blk]

i can admit that with u fdd..

you are one of the only people on the crazy team that actually has any sense. you should come over here though, we have cookies.





i have NEVER stated what i think actually happened that day. i SAW 2 planes fly into those buildings. then the buildings fell. this i KNOW. that is all i can say. i will NOT insist on a "theory" as the truth to how or why this happened. i would not dismiss an investigation, but i will not claim to know the truth until then either. if an investigation happens and things are revealed i will make a judgment then. i'm not gonna sit here and think i know what really happened when i had nothing to do with it though.

 

[wyteboi]

Good links keen, although some will say they are ALL not credible, probably just because you found them on the net.

 

[fdd2blk]

scholars for 9/11 truth

http://911scholars.org/


scholars for 911 truth and justice

http://stj911.org/


lawyers for 9/11 truth

http://lawyersfor911truth.blogspot.com/


veterans for 9/11 truth

http://www.v911t.org/


Doctors for 9/11 truth

http://mp911truth.org/


Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth

http://www.ae911truth.org/


Pilots for 9/11 truth

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/


Firefighters for 9/11 truth

http://firefightersfor911truth.org/


The Muslim-Chirstian-Jewish for 9/11 truth

http://mujca.com/


Political Leaders for 9/11 truth

http://pl911truth.com/


Religious leaders for 9/11 truth

http://rl911truth.org/


Boston for 9/11 truth

http://www.boston911truth.org/


San Diego for 9/11 truth

http://sdcgj.netrootz.com/web_pages/view_web_page.asp?group=30&page=109


Marines for 9/11 truth

http://truthaction.org/USMC.html




the waiting room is packed

i wish it wasn't so loud though. you don't have to scream while standing in line. it's like honking in traffic.

 

[wyteboi]

you are one of the only people on the crazy team that actually has any sense. you should come over here though, we have cookies.





i have NEVER stated what i think actually happened that day. i SAW 2 planes fly into those buildings. then the buildings fell. this i KNOW. that is all i can say. i will NOT insist on a "theory" as the truth to how or why this happened. i would not dismiss an investigation, but i will not claim to know the truth until then either. if an investigation happens and things are revealed i will make a judgment then. i'm not gonna sit here and think i know what really happened when i had nothing to do with it though.

 

[fdd2blk]

Good links keen, although some will say they are ALL not credible, probably just because you found them on the net.

i like how all these guys have to


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[GrowRebel]

dude, i posted a pic of a guy cutting the exact same cut with a torch. GR responded by saying the cut in my pic wasn't done yet. at that point i felt i was dealing with an idiot so i gave up.

i would not call that "destroyed".

I asked why the cut was unfinished ... why a diagonal cut when that is not usual procedure ... huffy 420 verified, and when I work skyscraper construction I didn't see it either. Why no picture of the finish cut with construction workers still there? But since you couldn't answer the question that made me an idiot. ... yeah ... right.

when you argue with idiots, you start to feel like one yourself.

Nuff said.

What's the matter? ... all you disinformationalist/deniers couldn't handle the fact that the FF want a real investigation so you had to consult your disinformation handbook did ya? Aw ... too bad ... so sad.

Well I've got more bad news for you ... I notice I haven't put up much on the NIST report being debunked since rick seem to insist that is is credible let's take a look shall we?

Steven Jones & Kevin Ryan Debunk the NIST Report part 1 of 2
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Steven Jones & Kevin Ryan Debunk the NIST Report part 2 of 2
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Ryan who was fired by UL for debunking NIST pancake theory talks about the tests that were done and how they conclusively proved those buildings could not have collapsed.

The papers are available at Journal of 911 Stuidies

Lots of papers debunking NIST ....
A Simple Refutation of the NIST-Bazant Collapse Hypothesis
Readers of the report will find that the roughly $20 million expended on this effort have resulted in an explanation of the total collapse of these buildings that is so vague it barely qualifies as a hypothesis. But it does have one crucial feature of a hypothesis: it is, in principle, falsifiable. In fact, it is easy to demonstrate that it is false.
In this paper we will, concentrating on the North Tower, offer a refutation that is:
easy to understand but reasonably precise

capable of being stated briefly verifiable by any reader with average computer skills and a grasp of simple mathematics.

The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and
Nano-Thermites
“Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues? … NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel.”
NIST Responses to FAQs, August 2006

Appeal Filed with NIST, Pursuant to Earlier Request for Correction
The enclosed Request for Correction (the “Request”) was submitted to the National Institute of Standards and Technology (“NIST”) on April 12, 2007 by Bob McIlvaine, Dr. Steven Jones, Kevin Ryan, Richard Gage, AIA Architect, and Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice (referred to herein collectively as the “Requesters”) under Section
515 of Public Law 106-554, the Data Quality Act, the Office of Management and Budget’s government-wide Guidelines for Ensuring and Maximizing the Quality, Objectivity, Utility, and Integrity of Information Disseminated by Federal Agencies, and NIST’s “Guidelines, Information Quality Standards, and Administrative Mechanism.”

NIST response to request for correction
Check out page three

we are unable to provide a full explanation - of the total collapse.

I wonder why? Plenty of more inconsistencies in the letter that are pointed out ... Well as you can see by the website there are plenty of papers posted disputing the so called "official report".
Of course the disinformation agent and his socks won't be able to dispute anything ... as usual.

More 911 news ...

NASA Engineer to Speak on Destruction of WTC Buildings
San Diego - On Wednesday, October 21, 2009, former NASA engineering executive Dwain Deets, will speak on behalf of more than 900 architects and engineers who cite evidence of explosive demolition at all three World Trade Center high-rises on 9/11 and are calling for a new, independent investigation into their destruction.

Sad news to report ...

Three heroes of 9/11 die of cancer in five days
A firefighter and two cops who worked at Ground Zero in the days and weeks after Sept. 11 have died of cancer in the past five days, the Daily News has learned.

Senator Lindsey Graham, giving comfort to the 9/11 Commission, is now in open denial of scientific proof of 9/11 treason
Below is some of what a representative in Senator Graham's DC office told me on October 1st in response to my further inquiry into the Senator's acknowledgment and response to the information we gave him and he willingly accepted to take a look at. <http://www.911blogger.com/node/20578>
At first contact, his office refused to say he had looked at the information. Now they have admitted he has reviewed the information but is still sticking with the 9/11 Commission Report, scientific evidence to the contrary be damned and his oath not withstanding.
Now, Senator Graham is adding an amendment to the appropriations bill that reads in part: "None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available for the Department of Justice by this Act may be obligated or expended to commence or continue the prosecution in (a civilian) court of the United States of an individual suspected of planning, authorizing, organizing, committing or aiding the attacks on the United States and its citizens that occurred on September 11, 2001."
Yeah ... he's trying to cover their war criminal asses that's why.

Inspiring Or Damaging? Louis Farrakhan Speaks Out On 9/11, Federal Reserve
We are no fans of Farrakhan in general, but there is really nothing in this powerful speech to disagree with. Is he for real? Or just another parasite sucking off the very genuine and growing fury of grass roots America?
Don't worry ... your insults and ridicule of the messengers won't change a thing ... people are going to continue to push for a real investigation ... Aw ... too bad ... so sad.

 

[fdd2blk]

I asked why the cut was unfinished ... why a diagonal cut when that is not usual procedure ... huffy 420 verified, and when I work skyscraper construction I didn't see it either. Why no picture of the finish cut with construction workers still there? But since you couldn't answer the question that made me an idiot. ... yeah ... right.



Nuff said.


i own a cutting torch and know how to use it. lol working as a grunt carrying a bosses tool box makes you no expert.



"nuff said", then you post a shit ton more.

so you still want to argue that cut?

 

[CrackerJax]

So which is MORE LIKELY???

Thermite or a torch? Now we KNOW they were cutting beams everywhere with torches.... right?? Right???

So, which is MORE LIKELY???

A new investigation would be catastrophic for the truthers in reality. If the investigation is over...they will still not be satisfied unless their way is the outcome. Since so many ppl at the scene who are QUALIFIED to make expert testimony have ALREADY said there was no demolition or thermite burning everywhere ... what are we to think???

You guys really think that with thermite burning everywhere, and firemen running everywhere inside and out...you honestly think they wouldn't have noticed thermite cutting through beams? How many beams are there? Can you imagine how many would have been needed to drop the buildings STRAIGHT down???

You guys don't really want another investigation.... it will only throw you further down the rabbit hole.

 

[fdd2blk]

wanna know the worst part about this whole thread?

i would be interested in reading and watching EVERY SINGLE link and article, if GR weren't so IN MY FACE with it. it literally hurts my eyes so i have to scroll past it.


seriously, how can you teach someone anything when you choose to insult them from the get go?

"hey stupid, let me help you."

makes no sense to me.


*insert insult*

 

[CrackerJax]

He actually thinks that how you change minds... by yelling at them.

 

[Keenly]

07/07 was an inside job

 

[IAm5toned]

read it and weep:
http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/PDF/NCSTAR 1-6.pdf

just read the executive summary...