4x4 Tent - Blue Hash and A-Train

smokingrubber

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Still growing :) It's nice to see growth every day. I took pics of each plant this morning. Here they are. Day 22
 

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Yes, they went on the juice as soon as they went into the tent. I'm using the Floro-something starter nutes that came with the ebb system. 850 ppm, 6.10 ph, 70 degree res.

That's a higher ppm than I wanted, but I started reading the nute instructuions and adding away willy-nilly. I thought I was going slow, but the ppm count jumped faster than I thought it would. It's a good thing I was going slow I guess.

That good-for-nothing Blue Hash #2 has finally started to perk up. I saw solid growth from her for the first time ever. That probably won't be enough to save her from getting pushed out for some Grandaddy purp, but I apprerciate her effort. That's unfortunate because I've grown Blue Hash before and 3-4 zips a plant can be expected. Everyone I shared it with really loved it.
 
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My clone-source isn't as reliable as I had hoped. He said he would take cuttings last week so they would be established when I picked them up. Well I called last night and he informed me that he has not taken the cuttings yet :( So he'll take them today and I've got to go get them tonight. That means I will have to dome them for a week and pre-veg them for another week. And pay for them even if they don't root! That's approximately 2 weeks before I can fill the room. $hit! Not much I can do about it . . . but $hit! I'll keep you posted.
 
laserbrn

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smokingrubber said:
My clone-source isn't as reliable as I had hoped. He said he would take cuttings last week so they would be established when I picked them up. Well I called last night and he informed me that he has not taken the cuttings yet :( So he'll take them today and I've got to go get them tonight. That means I will have to dome them for a week and pre-veg them for another week. And pay for them even if they don't root! That's approximately 2 weeks before I can fill the room. $hit! Not much I can do about it . . . but $hit! I'll keep you posted.
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That's pretty fucked up. Depending on strain it could be awhile to root. This WW I'm working with rooted in about 10 days. In the past most I've dealth with took about 14-21 days. 10 was pretty fast. I don't remember if you're in an MMJ state. If not why not just go to the dispensary and get some cuttings (although I hate the dispensary clone system)?
 
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I'm in Cali and I have a script, but that's mostly so I can grow in peace. The nearest disp is an hour and a half away and I've had friends that were disappointed in thier babies. I thought this was going to work out better, but at least I know the lineage. Either way, I would still be dealing with some bull$hit. (flappy-lip exhale)
 
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smokingrubber said:
I'm in Cali and I have a script, but that's mostly so I can grow in peace. The nearest disp is an hour and a half away and I've had friends that were disappointed in thier babies. I thought this was going to work out better, but at least I know the lineage. Either way, I would still be dealing with some bull$hit. (flappy-lip exhale)
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I've found the same thing and run into the same troubles. I'm in Socal and I live near TONS of dispensaries, but I've never found anything worth a shit IN the dispensary and what I've come across from people "in the know" sorta speak have just been too pricey. I appreciate the offers I was made for some dank cuts, but I just decided to start with the FI from seed. No one around here has it anyway, so it'll be interesting to see first hand.
 
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When I read about you guys being able to buy clones legally, a small tear runs down my cheek.

My ass has to wait on beans, grow them out, and pick the best genetics out..................weak - there's a satisfaction in picking your own mothers, but I'd love the months of time saved from buying my own.

This may be a silly question, but why wouldn't you just buy ten different clones of different genetics and then turn them all into mamas? I'd pay $15 for one clone and veg for a month or two and get 50 clones off of it rather then paying $700 for fifty clones, no?

EDIT: FYI, that "Prop 215 and Proud" is simply window dressing for the undercovers; I'm three time zones away.
 
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Bob Smith said:
When I read about you guys being able to buy clones legally, a small tear runs down my cheek.

My ass has to wait on beans, grow them out, and pick the best genetics out..................weak - there's a satisfaction in picking your own mothers, but I'd love the months of time saved from buying my own.

This may be a silly question, but why wouldn't you just buy ten different clones of different genetics and then turn them all into mamas? I'd pay $15 for one clone and veg for a month or two and get 50 clones off of it rather then paying $700 for fifty clones, no?

EDIT: FYI, that "Prop 215 and Proud" is simply window dressing for the undercovers; I'm three time zones away.
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I thought the same thing back in the day about the clones, but to be honest the system is too jacked up. The vendors don't give out clones of their good pheno's and/or gene's. They would be flooding their own markets. Every 3rd person around seems to grow pot so if they gave out thier top shelf shit they would be killing their own profits.

Like I said, you can get some good cuts, but they are going to cost you. Or you're going to have to be "in the know" which around here seems to be a lot of thugs or russian mobsters. I don't know those guys so I buy beans like everybody else and I grow them out. I've had better success with the beans over the past 12 months than I did with the clones over the last few years. I used to just go to the dispensary, get the clones and get the job done, but was I ALWAYS see the same crappy phenotype no matter what the hell they call the strain. It's really bizarre shit.
 
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That's a good idea and certainly one I would love to implement in the years to come. But since I'm relatively new to this hobby, I don't even HAVE a spot to keep mothers yet. It will come, but I've had to focus my resources ($) on the tent and all that that requires. My day job has to provide for everything and it's honestly a little more wobbly than I would like at the moment. I've spent relatively little money collecting Veg equipment. I've got a T5 and a domed tray . . . that's it. And I'm not done in the flower room! I've still got to get a Sentinal, a full Co2 setup & a dehudifier. Then I'll need an AC before the warmer months get here. For now, I've got to run a 1-room system and expand when the first stage is complete.

All in time. This is a very expensive hobby.
 
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smokingrubber said:
That's a good idea and certainly one I would love to implement in the years to come. But since I'm relatively new to this hobby, I don't even HAVE a spot to keep mothers yet. It will come, but I've had to focus my resources ($) on the tent and all that that requires. My day job has to provide for everything and it's honestly a little more wobbly than I would like at the moment. I've spent relatively little money collecting Veg equipment. I've got a T5 and a domed tray . . . that's it. And I'm not done in the flower room! I've still got to get a Sentinal, a full Co2 setup & a dehudifier. Then I'll need an AC before the warmer months get here. For now, I've got to run a 1-room system and expand when the first stage is complete.

All in time. This is a very expensive hobby.
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You're not kidding, my friend........I stopped keeping track at $5K, and that was a month or two ago.
 
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I decided to wait a few days before going to pick up the clones. I don't want to pay for unrooted cuttings. He can root them and I'll take over next week.

NO WONDER my day job is wobbly . . . I spend all damn day on the internet!
 
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Bob Smith said:
You're not kidding, my friend........I stopped keeping track at $5K, and that was a month or two ago.
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I'm at about 3k now. I've got to throw at least another K at the flower room . . . I haven't even tried to figure a budget on the veg room yet.
 
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It's just money, who cares :blsmoke:

Easy come, easy go............can't wait to see the fruits of my labor (and my wallet) develop over the next two months.
 
laserbrn

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Bob Smith said:
It's just money, who cares :blsmoke:

Easy come, easy go............can't wait to see the fruits of my labor (and my wallet) develop over the next two months.
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I really, really don't want to try to count up either A) how much I own currently (full retail value I paid for it) or B) all of the equipment I've every owned or replaced. It would probably make me cry a little, but compared to what I've smoked it's nothing.
 
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smokingrubber said:
I was kinda bummed for a minute. Almost gave up for the day. Smoked a bowl and pressed on.
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Thanks for stopping by my grow! I can see we use the same motivational methods for completing work in the back forty! :bigjoint:

I read your entire log, and I'll bet you are getting big yields of sweet bud in no time at all. I can also tell that you did a lot of reading before even setting up your grow. That makes it so much easier to get it right the first time.

'Scribed and + Rep for doing it right. Can't wait to see the results!
 
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I appreciate the words of support. I did do a lot of reading. Still much to learn though! Anything you see I'm doing wrong or could be doing better please sing out. I will be watching your grow as well :)
 
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This Grow Journal is amazing: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/257646-nirvana-ak-48-600-watt.html

I can only apsire to grow happy cows like this mf! After reading this I'm considering LST. He's BLOWING up a 2x4 tent with 4 plants!!! I'm afraid of what would happen with 12 plants. How would I get in there to tend it? Maybe I should stick with traditional methods? I will give it some thought and I welcome your opinion.
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Smoking, have never done LST, but SOG has always worked and been quite simple to me.

Veg plants until they're 12" tall and then flower them - super efficient, quick, and stress free.

You and I have the same size tent, and I'm doing 64 my next round (30 this one), so 12 plants would fit fine - you could veg up to ~24" and grow "semi-bushes" (or at least what a SOGer like myself considers a "bush").
 
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Bob Smith said:
Smoking, have never done LST, but SOG has always worked and been quite simple to me.

Veg plants until they're 12" tall and then flower them - super efficient, quick, and stress free.

You and I have the same size tent, and I'm doing 64 my next round (30 this one), so 12 plants would fit fine - you could veg up to ~24" and grow "semi-bushes" (or at least what a SOGer like myself considers a "bush").
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I've been really torn with this. Tossing and turning all night (I need a life). Should I LST - Top to 2 - Top to 4 - Leave em be? They're at about the size that I need to make a decision. I'm leaning toward Top to 4 and I'm sure I'll screw up a few of those so I'll end up with a few 2's. What do you think?

Day 10 in veg tent.
 

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