Trichomes, Potency, THC Content

sir rance alot

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Is potency determined by trichome count? Is it determined genetics only?
Does the visual number of trichomes determine how much thc is available?

The reason I ask is because the photos of various strains seem to show much different trichome counts. Some look covered and some look like they have none but are more potent.
 

sir rance alot

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Is it possible for a bud to be completely covered with trichomes but not be that good?

I ask because I am wondering about some bag seed from regs I have grown out. The buds are covered with trichs and I'm wondering if this means it is really good smoke or can it still be crap even with all the trichs.
 

jawbrodt

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I've been wondering that myself. My guess, is that the majority of the THC is inside the calyxs where we can't see it. I could be totally wrong, but like you, I would think that the strains with the most crystals are the strongest. Hmm...maybe it's the trichs themselves? Maybe they measure the THC content of the trichs?
 

doc111

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Is potency determined by trichome count? Is it determined genetics only?
Does the visual number of trichomes determine how much thc is available?

The reason I ask is because the photos of various strains seem to show much different trichome counts. Some look covered and some look like they have none but are more potent.
No. It is a fairly good indicator but not always accurate.

It is mainly determined by genetics but is influenced by growing conditions and environment.

Hope this helps. ;-)
 

doc111

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Is it possible for a bud to be completely covered with trichomes but not be that good?

I ask because I am wondering about some bag seed from regs I have grown out. The buds are covered with trichs and I'm wondering if this means it is really good smoke or can it still be crap even with all the trichs.
Yes it is possible. We used to call it Pretendica. :bigjoint:
 

doc111

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I've been wondering that myself. My guess, is that the majority of the THC is inside the calyxs where we can't see it. I could be totally wrong, but like you, I would think that the strains with the most crystals are the strongest. Hmm...maybe it's the trichs themselves? Maybe they measure the THC content of the trichs?
Not true. Most of the THC resides in the resin glands (Trichomes) but there may be a lot of trichomes which contain very little THC.bongsmilie
 

jawbrodt

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Is it possible for a bud to be completely covered with trichomes but not be that good?

I ask because I am wondering about some bag seed from regs I have grown out. The buds are covered with trichs and I'm wondering if this means it is really good smoke or can it still be crap even with all the trichs.

I just got done growing bagseed, and one of the strains looking like WW or Crystal or a strain like that. It was pretty good weed, much better than the regular 'dirt weed' that's usually around. BUT, I just sampled my first 'real' weed last night. It was Velvet Kush that's 7 1/2 weeks into bloom, and had less visible crystals than the bagseed plant i had. Well, let me tell you this...there was NO COMPARISON. :shock: That kush was so much better that I thought it was a completely different drug. So yeah, I'd say that it would be possible to have some nice looking weed that wasn't worth a crap. That wasn't my case, I am just saying that appearance can be deceiving. Go with good genetics, and you'll be a happy camper. :cool:
 

Dr. Indica

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Is it possible for a bud to be completely covered with trichomes but not be that good?

I ask because I am wondering about some bag seed from regs I have grown out. The buds are covered with trichs and I'm wondering if this means it is really good smoke or can it still be crap even with all the trichs.
Yes, most " White " strains are not very potent.....such as White Widow.

In most white strains the " white or THC " you think you see is actually stuff to gum up pests mouth parts. There are different types of trichomes, and only one kind gets you high. White Widow is the most famous for this, looks frosty as hell...but can only get you high for 15 min. at a time.
 

doc111

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]Yes, most " White " strains are not very potent.....such as White Widow.[/SIZE]

In most white strains the " white or THC " you think you see is actually stuff to gum up pests mouth parts. There are different types of trichomes, and only one kind gets you high. White Widow is the most famous for this, looks frosty as hell...but can only get you high for 15 min. at a time.
What the hell are you talking about?:confused: White widow was the strongest strain available for years. It's still one of the strongest. This doesn't mean that it's potent because it has a lot of trichomes. It was bred for potency. I just finished growing some white widow. I have been growing for many years and it definitely gets me high for more than 15 minutes at a time. It's one of the best strains I've ever grown. Unbelievable...................:dunce:
 
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Illegal Smile

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What the hell are you talking about?:confused: White widow was the strongest strain available for years. It's still one of the strongest. This doesn't mean that it's potent because it has a lot of trichomes. It was bred for potency. I just finished growing some white widow. I have been growing for many years and it definitely gets me high for more than 15 minutes at a time. It's one of the best strains I've ever grown. Unbelievable...................:dunce:
15 minutes at a time? Anything that doesn't get me high for two hours I consider worthless.
 

doc111

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15 minutes at a time? Anything that doesn't get me high for two hours I consider worthless.
I totally agree Illegal. In fact I've been smoking it for a little while now and haven't noticed a tolerance yet at all. I would like to know what white widow this guy was smoking. :lol:
 

bigbudmike

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What the hell are you talking about?:confused: White widow was the strongest strain available for years. It's still one of the strongest. This doesn't mean that it's potent because it has a lot of trichomes. It was bred for potency. I just finished growing some white widow. I have been growing for many years and it definitely gets me high for more than 15 minutes at a time. It's one of the best strains I've ever grown. Unbelievable...................:dunce:
FUCK! I hope so, I just got my Nirvana Feminized WW in the mail. I was reading that other guys post thinking OMG why did I buy this. I always heard good things about WW growing up and now I will try it for myself. I have a feeling it will be the shit! :-P
 

doc111

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FUCK! I hope so, I just got my Nirvana Feminized WW in the mail. I was reading that other guys post thinking OMG why did I buy this. I always heard good things about WW growing up and now I will try it for myself. I have a feeling it will be the shit! :-P
I can't speak for Nirvana WW but I am very happy with my WW. I don't think this guy smoked WW at all. I'm fairly sure you will enjoy it. :weed:
 

Dr. Indica

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I think White Widow is on the same level as Mother's Finest.......over - hyped bunk. IMO, certainly nowhere near the most potent in my book. I've grown and smoked quite a bit, WW will never be a winner in my eyes.

I don't think this guy smoked WW at all
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what white widow this guy was smoking.
Never had any that could get me stoned, period.

I guess I'm used to smoking bud that is way more potent. I have Nirvana's White Rhino going right now, I think it blows away the WW.

I'm doing Snow White next with Barney's Farm Amnesia Lemon Haze.:bigjoint:
 

growman09

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r u joking r u trying to look like a dumbass ww has bee revered as a god like strain trust me buddy you did not have the real thing if it only worked for 15 min i agree there is stronger out there but white widow is the bomb and i know from experiance.
 

doc111

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I think White Widow is on the same level as Mother's Finest.......over - hyped bunk. IMO, certainly nowhere near the most potent in my book. I've grown and smoked quite a bit, WW will never be a winner in my eyes.

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Never had any that could get me stoned, period.

I guess I'm used to smoking bud that is way more potent. I have Nirvana's White Rhino going right now, I think it blows away the WW.

I'm doing Snow White next with Barney's Farm Amnesia Lemon Haze.:bigjoint:
I would say that everybody has their own preferences when it comes to strains. To label white strains as not very potent is incorrect though. Potency is calculated by figuring the percent of THC. It is understood that THC is not the only psychoactive component to cannabis. And you say you are growing White Rino. Isn't this also a white strain? (which I seem to recall you saying white strains aren't very potent). And have you tried every breeders version of white widow? I mean, they all have their own version which I've been told can differ greatly. Think before you post irresponsible nonsense please. :dunce:
 

Dr. Indica

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r u joking r u trying to look like a dumbass
Believe me with all the retarded people on this site who think they know something. It would be rather difficult for me to accomplish that task.


I would say that everybody has their own preferences
So why are all of you attacking my opinion ?

B/C you don't agree with what I've said ?


Think before you post irresponsible nonsense please.
Back at you:dunce::dunce:


Fucking Flamers

Later
 

doc111

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Believe me with all the retarded people on this site who think they know something. It would be rather difficult for me to accomplish that task.




So why are all of you attacking my opinion ?

B/C you don't agree with what I've said ?




Back at you:dunce::dunce:


Fucking Flamers

Later
Run along and play there little guy. :lol: I don't see how you say I'm attacking your position (which nobody here seems to agree with) when I said, and I quote: "Everybody has their own preferences when it comes to strains." How is that attacking your position? Explain that to me please. You didn't say "In my opinion........." or "I think...........". You stated your opinion as fact. Which scared the crap out of a guy who had just purchased some expensive white widow seeds. I've talked to people who didn't care for white widow but say what you want about it..............it is still a very potent strain, period. :finger:
 

sir rance alot

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Ok....ok... Now that's over, next question is....
I know that this might be a strain specific question but...

Do calyxes swell up during the last couple weeks?

I'm now into my 5th week of flower and everything looks great but I was wondering if the calyxes on the buds will all swell up like the calyx at the base of the petiole.

The calyx that first shows sex is the one I'm talking about. These have gotten huge lately but the ones on the buds are much smaller. Can I expect a nice calyx swell during the final couple weeks?

I'm not sure what to expect during the final stages, I have ordered Ak 48 and super skunk for my second grow, wanted to do some regs bagseed first to get my setup tuned. The buds I have now are extremely hairy but the calyxes seem to be lagging.

Is this normal for this age? 5th week

By the way... Thanks for the help and info guys. Rep for all
 
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