Mycorrhiza 101...

[RogueReefer]

I just bought some Rick's Monster Grow Mix. Has anyone tried his producy B4? Just inocculated my med grow with it 4 days ago and I guess they look like they took off a bit more the last day and a half, lol...could just be me. Any thoughts?

 

[jberry]

Wow this thread has turned bad. Here's some info that may help. It's a link to an article done on the nation's top grower of mycorrhizae

www.Reforest.com/company

yeah, its a real shame, but there is some good info if you can get past the fact that i told off Jesus himself, lol.

 

[RogueReefer]

I am gonna sribe to yas thread, thanks for the tutorial, lol.

 

[jberry]

Rick's Monster Mix Pic... vvvvvv

It didnt take long for the fungus to infest the roots of these seeds. The fungus will continue to propagate and infest as the root system develops.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Mycorrhizal application is easy and requires no special equipment. The goal is to create physical contact between the mycorrhizal inoculant and the plant root. Mycorrhizal inoculant can be sprinkled onto roots during transplanting, worked into seed beds, blended into potting soil, "watered in" via existing irrigation systems, applied as a root dip gel or probed into the root zone of existing plants. The type of application depends upon the conditions and needs of the applicator.

[/FONT]Mix it in at the roots and try to make direct root contact to make the infection earlier and stronger.

 

[Wetdog]

I just bought some Rick's Monster Grow Mix. Has anyone tried his producy B4? Just inocculated my med grow with it 4 days ago and I guess they look like they took off a bit more the last day and a half, lol...could just be me. Any thoughts?

It's just you.

They WILL take off, but not in 4 days time.

Some molasses will help those beasties multiply. 1tsp-1tbl/gallon of water/week will feed them nicely.

Wet

 

[jberry]

 

[i81two]

Great thread. And nothing like a good ole fist fight.

Back to topic though. I am kind of a noob that has been doing more research than ones brain can handle. A few weeks ago i got into a serious read about all the mycos and Nitrosomons and Nitro bacteria and steptomyces.

I decided to buy GH Sub Culture-M (mycorrhizal root innoculant) for my drip system rez.

I think it may be helping my roots. But it sure is nasty to clean from ur rez at changing time.

The directions say to add directly to rez water. But it doesnt seem to mix in that well.

My question is. Can i or should i mix it with water first then pour into rez.

Anybody using this stuff ? And is this the stuff that this thread is about?

 

[jberry]

Great thread. And nothing like a good ole fist fight.

Back to topic though. I am kind of a noob that has been doing more research than ones brain can handle. A few weeks ago i got into a serious read about all the mycos and Nitrosomons and Nitro bacteria and steptomyces.

I decided to buy GH Sub Culture-M (mycorrhizal root innoculant) for my drip system rez.

I think it may be helping my roots. But it sure is nasty to clean from ur rez at changing time.

The directions say to add directly to rez water. But it doesnt seem to mix in that well.

My question is. Can i or should i mix it with water first then pour into rez.

Anybody using this stuff ? And is this the stuff that this thread is about?

yes, the thread is about mycorrhizae...

and you are right about it not mixing well, when a myco product is designed for hydroponics or to be used in a irrigation system then it has likely been milled so it wont clog your nozzles and such. Milling the mycorrhizae can actually cut spores and make the medium less infective although some do remain unscathed. Spores are actually pretty big critters in the micro world. The mycos need to attach them selves to the root structure to be beneficial, so applying them from the top isnt exactly ideal in my opinion, not to mention they may never even get sucked up by the pump in your rez! The majority of it seems to settle on the bottom and stay there for the most part.

if possible i would recommend using a different type of myco product that has a high endo spore count and can be applied directly to the roots during transplant... the earlier you can get the mycos to infest the roots the better... I usually dip the roots directly in my mycorrhizae spores when planting my clones and again when i pot up. you may also benefit from amending some into the medium.

part of deciding which product to use and how much it will benefit you is going to be based on the type of system you use to grow, (hydro, soil, ect.,ect.)

i have never used that GH myco product before and know nothing about it, but perhaps you can use it still but apply it to the roots not the rez? ...( i dont know what type of system your running but obvoiusly it wouldnt be possible with certain hydro systems)

 

[i81two]

I am running a hydro drip with GH 3 part.
So if i mixed up a proper ratio and did a drench with every rez change that would be a benefit to the roots ?

Can you recommend a myco with the high endo spore count ?

Do you think i can dip my transplants into my inoculate with out worry ?

Do you know of a product that contains the things i mention earlier ?

I really appreciate your opinion.

 

[wyteboi]

So berry you are saying that fuzz is the actual endo doing its thing? I was under the impresion that we could not see with the naked eye , but maybe with that much all in one spot it easier to see?
Thanks
Those are very pretty roots! I'll have to try that myself.

 

[jberry]

yeah, people try to look for the myco colonies in their soil, but thats like digging through the soil looking for tiny spiderwebs...

 

[Shrubs First]

Same thang. How are the fungi being fed? Where are they getting their carbos necessary to sustain their growth.

No it doesn't, it's pretty much inert unlike Peat moss or compost which is loaded with humic/fulvic acids. I was growing in coco fiber when guys like you were still messin' in their drawers.

I imagine you are.

"Dangerous rats", hah! That is hilarious. Exactly what makes me so dangerous? This is the reason why you and I don't get along....I do not get along well with a bullshitter. Now your sinking to a new low with such ridiculous accusations. If you can't back up your statements, then it seems wise that you shouldn't be making them.

We're quite the desperate one, eh. Where in "my posts" are you talking about?

Recommend you reread your initial post. Think soil mah man.

Carry on,
UB

Ben I too am in 100% canna coco and have experienced great results using
Great White Premium Myco, I am using a Drain to Waste system. Plants have
been much healthier. I have no problem using Humboldt Honey ES in my
D/W coco Hydro system, so I know my Myco's are receiving plenty of Carbs.

 

[Shrubs First]

I dont do the Hydro honey, i go for the thick nasty stuff

And I use a shit ton of it, 20 mL per gallon in veg.

 

[wyteboi]

yeah, people try to look for the myco colonies in their soil, but thats like digging through the soil looking for tiny spiderwebs...

Well i know you cant see the shit in the soil , but i was under the impression that its too little to see period ? (w/naked eye)

GREAT THREAD BERRY!

 

[i81two]

Do you think that when i used an Azamax drench to combat a small fungus gnat prob that it would kill the myco ?

 

[jberry]

Well i know you cant see the shit in the soil , but i was under the impression that its too little to see period ? (w/naked eye)

GREAT THREAD BERRY!

yea but you can see them once they form colonies and that will actually take place fairly quickly in the right environment.

 

[Shrubs First]

Do you think that when i used an Azamax drench to combat a small fungus gnat prob that it would kill the myco ?

perfectly safe.

 

[jberry]

Do you think that when i used an Azamax drench to combat a small fungus gnat prob that it would kill the myco ?

it seems like it would but idk for sure.

if your gnat problem is small then try letting the medium dry a bit more than usual and a lot of them will die off... OR mix some azamax in a spray bottle and spray the sufrace rather than doing the drench... if you spray just the surface then it wont effect the myco as much and it will still kill most of the fungi gnats larvae since the live on the mainly the surface of the medium.

try to avoid the drench if you can

 

[jberry]

perfectly safe.

good to know... how does it kill other fungus but not the myco?

 

[Shrubs First]

good to know... how does it kill other fungus but not the myco?

I've never known it to be used against fungus... He asked about fungus GNATS
AzaMax does not use hard chemical solvents and uses food grade formulation ingredients...

Its an antifeedant and insect growth regulator and controls pests through
starvation and growth disruption. It controls spider mites, thrips,
fungus gnats, aphids, whiteflies, leaf miners, worms, beetles, leafhoppers, scales,
mealy bugs, nematodes and other soil borne pests.