Blue Cheese, PPP, Thai SS...Jerry's Second Grow

Jerry Garcia

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Ahhh yes, the blue widow. got lost in all those pics lol. The chiesel seems to be bulking up nicely. how much would u estimate you are going to get average off your chiesels and LSD's? o yeah + REP
The Chiesel will yield less than the LSD's but I still think it'll be around an ounce. The LSD has sticky heavy buds, so I think around 40 grams per plant is possible.

As I've said before, I'm not very good at getting accurate "final weights," because I tend to harvest the larger more mature buds first and give the lower ones another week or so to finish (less to trim at one time too). In that process buds get smoked or separated and I never really get around to weighing them.

I hate saying weight isn't important...because I obviously want to get the most out of my situation...but it isn't the driving force behind my growing philosophies, so it tends to get overlooked.

I will try and make a concerted effort this round though to accurately weigh all dry buds.:joint:
 

mared juwan

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Damn I need to get on that Chiesel and LSD. Those are both Barney's right? They are gorgeous man. I wish there was a bank that had both Beanho and Barney's because I would for sure get em all at once. But yea I've used Hemp Depot three times now with success and I live in the States. They don't take credit cards which turns a lot of people off but I've had no probs sending an international money order. You can put in an email address with the MO and your strain choices and they email you when they receive your order and again when they send out the beans (usually same day). No freebies though and some breeders are more expensive than Attitude, Serious for example, but some are cheaper like the TGA. I guess it depends what your shopping for whether they're worth it.
 

Jerry Garcia

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Damn I need to get on that Chiesel and LSD. Those are both Barney's right? They are gorgeous man. I wish there was a bank that had both Beanho and Barney's because I would for sure get em all at once. But yea I've used Hemp Depot three times now with success and I live in the States. They don't take credit cards which turns a lot of people off but I've had no probs sending an international money order. You can put in an email address with the MO and your strain choices and they email you when they receive your order and again when they send out the beans (usually same day). No freebies though and some breeders are more expensive than Attitude, Serious for example, but some are cheaper like the TGA. I guess it depends what your shopping for whether they're worth it.
Chiesel is Big Buddha...he's been a pioneer with Cheese. I actually have a BB Cheese seed waiting to be germinated. But the LSD is Barney's. I like what I've seen of Barney's thus far, and would definitely recommend the LSD. Even just a pick-n-mix or two would be sufficient, but their stuff isn't very expensive.
 

mared juwan

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Cool, yea that GreenHouse Cheese I'm growing is allegedly a Buddha cut crossed with an afghani. I love the smell of that strain and yield is good too.
 

SL2

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Damn Jerry did you sprinkle sugar on that chisel and lsd? lol Man they look bad ass.
I have some chisel for next grow. You allways seem to be one bean ahead of me on strains. lol
Yheu all look good. Great job and nice pics. Keep them coming J!
 

Jerry Garcia

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I took these yesterday...
Sleestack Skunk. Looks way better than the little one flowering. My clones ALWAYS do better than my plants from seed...


This one got some experimental mycorrhizae mixed in the soil, and I think she likes it.


Trainwreck


Twisty stem.


LSD.


Not so thick or twisty of a stem as the TW.


OG18 Skunk. Looking good.


Only minor LST so far. I think I tied a bunch of them down some more after I took pics.


Power Kush. This is a going to be a nice plant I think. Very Sativa-dom narrow leaves.


Gotta love organics!


Chiesel. She looks way better than this...not feeling photogenic that day I suppose.


Doing well though. Love this plant! Probably should take some clones...



The Blue Widow is tantalizingly close to harvest. The trichs just don't seem to want to get that nice, solid, dark amber color to them. They've got a nice clear amber thing going but just not quite there yet. I'll check again tonight. It's happening soon though...
 

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goofygolfer

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quote Jerry Garcia
As I've said before, I'm not very good at getting accurate "final weights," because I tend to harvest the larger more mature buds first and give the lower ones another week or so to finish (less to trim at one time too). In that process buds get smoked or separated and I never really get around to weighing them.


i can attest that theory it works and works well . jerry you have mastered the bonsi grow :clap::clap::clap:
 

Jerry Garcia

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[QUOTE="SICC";3867826]I love your LST man, its like a work of art :mrgreen:[/QUOTE]

Thanks SICC, like everything else you just have to grasp the underlying concepts and really understand what you're trying to make the plant do. I like learning :eyesmoke:

On a totally unrelated note, I bought a new microscope from Radio Shack. It's the 60-100x model, so I better be able to see into those damn trichome heads now!
 

SL2

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Sweet! Looks like candy. I could just take a big ole bite! lol

Hows that chisel rank in your line up? As good as the LSD?
 

Jerry Garcia

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Sweet! Looks like candy. I could just take a big ole bite! lol

Hows that chisel rank in your line up? As good as the LSD?
Well, I would probably rank LSD 1A and Chiesel 1B. Each is so different, but so utterly fantastic. They are definitely my favorites thus far. Though the Blue Widow was a pleasure to trim last night...I'm not sure I've ever had to remove so many healthy fan leaves from a bud! It's a nice feeling.

I loved the first run through with the Chiesel, but this second batch has been better treated, grew in a larger pot, and was grown from clone...so all indications are this crop should be BETTER than the first. :weed:
 

Jerry Garcia

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[QUOTE="SICC";3871522]Now that looks tasty :weed:

gonna be some killer smoke, nice trim job as well :blsmoke:

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Thanks SICC. I pride myself on trimming closely...leaves are harsh and I like to make hash, so it works out best if I trim well.

Had some real nice scissor hash after just trimming that first cola. That's my favorite part of trimming...you HAVE to take a break every so often and clean your scissors, so you just plop it on top of a bowl pack and continue working. I also like to watch south park or something on my cpu (I trim at my desk).

BTW new south parks starts March 17 if you're into that sort of thing...
 

"SICC"

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Thanks SICC. I pride myself on trimming closely...leaves are harsh and I like to make hash, so it works out best if I trim well.

Had some real nice scissor hash after just trimming that first cola. That's my favorite part of trimming...you HAVE to take a break every so often and clean your scissors, so you just plop it on top of a bowl pack and continue working. I also like to watch south park or something on my cpu (I trim at my desk).

BTW new south parks starts March 17 if you're into that sort of thing...

haha yeah man im the same way, i like to get a PERFECT trim job, i usually smoke the trim tho :blsmoke:
Last two grows i have only had one female, so i haven't had a chance to make butter, but eventually i will, maybe next grow when i get a lil party cup SOG going
 

SL2

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Hey Jerry
I think one of my LSD has the death claw. The new leaf growth at the buds are cupping together and curling under. The other leaves look fine. They are green no tip burn. I was told I had salt buildup and high N that has locked out other nutes and to flush with epson salt. What do you think? Also they are in the dark period for about 2 hours, should I yank her out and flush now or wait til the light comes on in 10 hours? Its the only one out of 8 plants doing this.

TY SL2
 

Jerry Garcia

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Hey Jerry
I think one of my LSD has the death claw. The new leaf growth at the buds are cupping together and curling under. The other leaves look fine. They are green no tip burn. I was told I had salt buildup and high N that has locked out other nutes and to flush with epson salt. What do you think? Also they are in the dark period for about 2 hours, should I yank her out and flush now or wait til the light comes on in 10 hours? Its the only one out of 8 plants doing this.

TY SL2
First, don't freak out and pull the plant out of her dark cycle. 10 hours won't make that much difference.

Second, have you been feeding heavily? Do you periodically give reduced strength or water-only feedings?

Some plants are just more sensitive to nutrients. On the first LSD run I had 1 cola that developed some clawing while the other two were perfectly normal.

Is your plant the same phenotype as the others? In other words, are they clones of each other or are they different plants from seed?

Also, refresh me on what nutrients you are using...I can't remember off the top and don't feel like looking it up.

I don't think you have a lockout situation, so I'm not sure I would "flush" with epsom salt. You're probably best off just giving it a heavy water-only feeding as opposed to a flush. The difference being a traditional flush uses 3x the amount of water as the pot size...a 1 gallon pot requires 3 gallons of water, a 2 gallon pot requires 6 gallons, 3 gallon pot requires 9 gallons water etc. That is a bit overkill, and will strip all the nutrients from your soil, which will really create problems.

If you think you're having a salt buildup problem, just give a heavy watering of maybe 1 gallon water per 1 gallon soil or even a little less. Just for reference, when normally feeding it is recommend to give 1 quart nutrient solution per 1 gallon soil as a rule of thumb. So 1 gallon water to 1 gallon soil will still help clean out the medium without removing all the nutrients.

Having said all that, your answers to the first couple questions dictate what course of action should be taken, as I don't know all the circumstances surrounding your situation.

Once they claw though, they will not be flattening back out...ever...so you'll have to look to the new growth for improved health. It's not a huge deal though, and I wouldn't get too worked up about it. Realistically you can just decrease the overall amount of nutrients that the affected plant receives (by diluting the nutrient mix a little with extra water) and that should bring you back down to where it should be.
 
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