Club 600

[mcpurple]

That's where your weight went, hon, if you had to chop that early - most of your weight comes in the last few weeks. Still nothing to be ashamed of - my first three plants yeilded like 50g all together. lol

i figure that was a main reason and the early n def.

Yeah, theres nothing wrong with the weight, oz's of herb is oz's of herb. And Doe is right. Cutting early always cuts down on the final weight. But now you have a bar set that should be easy to beat on the next run. The only other thing I forgot to ask was, how close do you keep the light to your girls and is it cooled. If the light is to far or too close, it can greatly change the way your buds form. It is easy for me to see the difference in my setup with the even canopy. Directly under my light, the plants are a little to close to the light and its bleaching them and makeing the bud formation abnormal, then directly under the edges of my reflector is where the light is just perfect, I have bid dense properly formed buds, and the rest along the edges of the screen are nice and dense but smaller than the others and honestly look very similar to the buds my 400w grew. So on my plants there are 3 distinct different buds configurations forming with the only difference being light. Just a thought. The ones that look the nivcest and densest, are the ones on the back wall and middle of the screen that get hit with light on all sides(either from reflection or the other light). Just something else for you to ponder.

thanks for that and here is all my info.


Lights: 1 600 watt hps sunmasters bulb, and 1 200 watt cfl blue spectrum.

light distance: 10 inches from the tallest top and it is fine no bleahcing or nothing its alwasy this close

space: in my closet 2 1/2 ft wide. 4 ft 4 inches long and 9 feet tall.

Nutes: flora nova veg for veg and flora nova bloom for flower. also i start to add mallases every watering in flower.i also give them a small does of generl organics cal/mag in flower. i also use earth juice micro blast a few times during flower and veg. i have epsom salt but i never used it and probably wont use it. i also use supernaturals superlicuiose once flowering has begun

Plants: 2 shishkaberry lsted in a few spots so they arewide plants. next is 3 purple indica 2 were topped one was left alone. all these plants were put into 3 gal containers the day they went into flower. and they were transplanted froma 2 1/2 litger pot

oh my temps are 75-80 lights on. and 65-70 lights off. also i have 2 small fans in the room one below the plants blowing air up theri skirts, and one blowin air on the tops of the plant and on the bulbs. and for fresh air i have a fan blowin in fresh air through a cracked door

 

[Heads Up]

Here's the real important question as far as I'm concerned when it comes to weight. As DST said, it's what I have left in my jar. Mine are full at the moment so for once I'm planning ahead. My haze babies are still going to take weeks, my tent arrives on wednesday. Saturday I hope to have it up and running and in my grow room. I might as well use the atmosphere in the grow room rather than put it into another room. I'm going to put my now topped arjan's haze #1 clone into the tent along with a boat load of other indica dominant strains in half gallon grow bags. I like to start at the extremes and work my way towards the middle. I'll soak my beans on wednesday evening and hope they pop by saturday so I can get them into the dirt. I plan on doing the whole grow in these half gallon grow bags, no transplanting. The grow will be straight 12/12, no veg time. My theory is that the plants will grow in a veg state for a couple/few weeks before they have enough of a root system to show sex. I'll be using two 4100k lamps along with two 6500k lamps until they show sex then I'll replace the 6500k with 3000k and leave the 4100k in there. I want to see how the plants will respond, I would like for them to get no taller than two feet without topping or training. Little christmas trees with basically one main cola. I'm going to use all seeds of my own making so I figure what the hell, why not?

 

[mcpurple]

sounds like aplan heads up, but all the 12/12 grows ive seen from seed have been tall plants it seems they strech more IMO, but i have never done one al the way before so i cant say for sure

 

[1badmasonman]

Thanks for hangin in there with me guys & gals. Finally found some time to get some pics taken and do some work in the grow room.

Ill kinda tell the story as we go. Heres the pics.

Heres a group shot of the new strains from GHS. All beans germed so far and very fast too. I found that an overnight soak in a shot glass really speeds up the germ process. Even the ones that sank sprouted.

I only soak them for the night usually before i go to bed ill pop them in there own seperate labeled shot glass. When i get up in the morn while having my coffee i put them in the ziplocks in wet napkins. Usually by the time im ready for bd the same day they have started to crack. Moving on. I like to ramble can't you tell lol.

These are the 3 eldest purp clones. As you can see there health and happy lil ladies. Ive decided to get as many clones as i can ready for the outdoor season. But rest assured I will also be growing indoors hydro under my 2 600 HPS. Just not quite ready yet.

Mother purple. Shes getting large dispite my constant chopping for clones. I could top her and make her alot smaller if needed. For now ive got plenty of room so im just gone get as many clones off her as i can for the next month or so.

And yes peeps. Even though ive got those new strains started im still going purple in the hydro for my first run. If i fuck up ohh well. ill still have plenty outdoor purple going to so my ass is covered.

This was kinda an experiment to see how big of a cutting i could get to root. And so far this one is the biggest. It took about 10 days to start roots in the cloner. The stem was really long so i put it in a big pot st8 away. Want some hulks going out into the wild.

A look into the nursery 3/28/2010. Ive got 2 clone in each plug on most of the tray there. Got to get some more pots, Im slap out. The 2 in soil are purp clone i planted lastnite. Im out near out of the FF Big Bloom so i started feeding yesterday with the alaska fish fert. Some stankin ass shit. NPK 5-1-1 Should work well as a mild veg nute. Some of the yellowing leaves are perking up with the dose of N already.

Veggin under a single 600. Temps are rising daily in there. Going to have to cool it soon.

And last but not least the finale version of my diy ebb&grow/dwc hydro res and controller res. Ive also added a new clean 45 gal trash can as a back up res to the main. The newpump make tranfering mass quantities of fluid easy cheesy.

Well thats all for now my friends. Stay tuned. Things are going to get interesting. Peace out 1BMM

 

[Integra21]

Looking good bad. Really looking forward to seeing your indoors up and running. The left side of my screen is getting the chop tomorrow. I'll put up some pics of that when I finish.

 

[1badmasonman]

Here's the real important question as far as I'm concerned when it comes to weight. As DST said, it's what I have left in my jar. Mine are full at the moment so for once I'm planning ahead. My haze babies are still going to take weeks, my tent arrives on wednesday. Saturday I hope to have it up and running and in my grow room. I might as well use the atmosphere in the grow room rather than put it into another room. I'm going to put my now topped arjan's haze #1 clone into the tent along with a boat load of other indica dominant strains in half gallon grow bags. I like to start at the extremes and work my way towards the middle. I'll soak my beans on wednesday evening and hope they pop by saturday so I can get them into the dirt. I plan on doing the whole grow in these half gallon grow bags, no transplanting. The grow will be straight 12/12, no veg time. My theory is that the plants will grow in a veg state for a couple/few weeks before they have enough of a root system to show sex. I'll be using two 4100k lamps along with two 6500k lamps until they show sex then I'll replace the 6500k with 3000k and leave the 4100k in there. I want to see how the plants will respond, I would like for them to get no taller than two feet without topping or training. Little christmas trees with basically one main cola. I'm going to use all seeds of my own making so I figure what the hell, why not?

Agreed. Man im still paying top dollar for dank. Shee hit nigga MCP 2 oz per plant is not that bad of a yeild considering some of the problems and what not you had to work through. Just enjoy what ya got and get ya ass on to the next one so ya dont have to buy the good gear like me.

Heads Up. I like that idea. Going for the bud on a stick grow. That will be cool. Are you going with a few more plants or just an experimental type thinga ma jig. lol. I love experimenting a bit myself. Good luck on it bro. Peace 1BMM

 

[Heads Up]

masonman, I'm going for a sea of green type thingy (this power kush is asskicking, I'll only smoke it before bed) so I plan on ten or twelve and maybe more, I'll have to see how the floor space falls out after I pack some bags with dirt. And mcpurple, I agree about the stretch which is why I'm using veg lights until they show sex and hopefully the half gallon bags won't give them the room to grow. If I have to I'll try the bushmaster I purchased. It's all just one big experiment, even the soil/less mix I plan on putting together is experimental. The ingredients can be purchased at my local seed and feed store for about twenty bucks and it should easily be enough of a mix for two grows in the main room plus whatever plants in the tent. Being the humans we are, we learn by screwing up, I just help the process by throwing in wild cards. Don't sweat the small stuff, hopefully we all have plenty more grow in us. It's only a weed.

 

[Heads Up]

I was looking through and uncle ben thread when I came across a post by dave coulier, the credit is his for finding this info.

I'm going to give this a shot and see how it works out.

http://www.onhort.com/What-Really-Causes-Stretch-article2891

 

[1badmasonman]

Heres my babies at 33 days flowering. 5 Northern lights and 1 ak8 fem seeds from nirvana. 600watt hps from veg. Bio canna range ferts.

I topped at 5th or 6th node and tied down 2 tops as far as they could go. Didnt quite realise how bushy they would get and they are crammed right in to a small space.

Nice and welcome to the club taylormade.

masonman, I'm going for a sea of green type thingy (this power kush is asskicking, I'll only smoke it before bed) so I plan on ten or twelve and maybe more, I'll have to see how the floor space falls out after I pack some bags with dirt. And mcpurple, I agree about the stretch which is why I'm using veg lights until they show sex and hopefully the half gallon bags won't give them the room to grow. If I have to I'll try the bushmaster I purchased. It's all just one big experiment, even the soil/less mix I plan on putting together is experimental. The ingredients can be purchased at my local seed and feed store for about twenty bucks and it should easily be enough of a mix for two grows in the main room plus whatever plants in the tent. Being the humans we are, we learn by screwing up, I just help the process by throwing in wild cards. Don't sweat the small stuff, hopefully we all have plenty more grow in us. It's only a weed.

I hear you Headsup. Part of me is addicted to the experimenting realm of this thing of our haha. Its fun and what better folks to share the victories and defeats, Its all part of the growing as a grower if you will. Lord knows ive made my mistakes experimenting and shit lol. But thats how we learn. Good luck again Headsup ill be in ya corner bro. Peace 1BMM

 

[Dr High]

This is what i can do with a 400 watter, i need more space for a 600.. but i still get good shit out of it

 

[genuity]

This is what i can do with a 400 watter, i need more space for a 600.. but i still get good shit out of it

just that one plantthat is looking tasty

 

[Dr High]

just that one plantthat is looking tasty

I ran out of seeds and got one female from 3 seeds so better then nothing Im going to harvest her in one week.

 

[genuity]

I ran out of seeds and got one female from 3 seeds so better then nothing Im going to harvest her in one week.

you think you whould of seen much of an upgrade with a 600

 

[DST]

Hey 600 watters, nice updates peeps.

I think Heads Up got a SOG plan on the go. I am really feeling you on this one HU!! This went through my mind after I saw the Blackjack and NY47 grow from seed into 12/12 in a few weeks (little or no veg time) and they both produced around 1 1/4 oz each. My theory is that you are going to do a lot of watering every day or couple of days, but I think plants like this new watering, or more frequent waterings. It's almost like hybut manual hydro in soil/coco. Look forward to following that one through with ya.

Dr High, nice looking plant there.

McP, will have a stew over your dimensions and come back to you...but I am already thinking vertical for that space...especailly if you want to keep to 6 plants. Reason being, with your dimensions you have ltd canopy size, going vertical is going to double your canopy rize realistically. All you are going to need is a cool tube and a good inline fan and ducting...plus some bits and bobs to fix it all up. As I said, I will come back to you on this.

Have a good un folks,

DST

 

[GreenBully]

heres a pic of my bitch in veg...vegged her two weeks under the screen now she 4 days into 12/12...she was 3ft when i put her in..dwc/top feed... 6oo BoI!!!!!

 

[tea tree]

here is my 600 watt super lemon haze. only one for now but i plan on four in veg and four in flower in the end. I have a cool tube and a closed tcircuit ready to go and am just waiting on the solenoid for co2. this is a rebuild of my first tent. Five gallon dwc with a 20 watt airpump for one bucket right now! It is supposed to be for four evenually. With two airstones right now each pumping out 10 watts of air my plant loves it. One airstone was not enough as when i added the second I had a growth spurt. I will add a third soon. Next I will use a 25 or greater 8 head pump for four buckets for the better growth. I use gh three part with straight tapwater and hardwater micro. Gonna add koolbloom next paycheck too. The plant was vegged under a 600 mh and later switched to a 6 bulb four foot t5 for two months or so.

she is topped and tied down for a screen of buds too be. that is a four by four by six foot tent. so the plant is about 3x3!

 

[mcpurple]

Hey 600 watters, nice updates peeps.

McP, will have a stew over your dimensions and come back to you...but I am already thinking vertical for that space...especailly if you want to keep to 6 plants. Reason being, with your dimensions you have ltd canopy size, going vertical is going to double your canopy rize realistically. All you are going to need is a cool tube and a good inline fan and ducting...plus some bits and bobs to fix it all up. As I said, I will come back to you on this.

Have a good un folks,

DST

thanks dst i was thinkin of the vertical also a few days back, but right now i just dont have the money for the cool tube or inline fan and i cant even run an inline fan it will blow a circuit. i would have to rewire a buch a stuff but i cant cuz i rent, im going to have to stay horizontil for now my cfl is vertical but thats light isnt doin to much i think. to increase my yeild i think im just gonna let them finish all the way, keep them more green through out flower. and also try to buy some bud swell of some kind

 

[DoeEyed]

Lots of great updates, keep the good stuff comin', 600 watters!

 

[swish]

whats up 600 watters, ive been out of the loop for a while but still tickin'. just wanted to show the new set up of the bubblelicious. So far these girls are at 4 and a half weeks, top chopped at 3 weeks and i did sum tie downs but will do more as they go into flower, i think thats the best time to see wich tops are gonna be stretchers.
There are 2 five gall buckets with 8" mesh bottom pots placed in the lids, picked up sum 1/2 inch drainers with sum grommets, 4 inch air stones and two 65gph water pumps till the roots get going
My white widows/ blue mystics are doing good... i think i was rushing it but its still strange to see new flowers form all the way into my 11th week, ive been feeding nothing but ph water for a solid week and just started to add some carbs ( grape sweets from botanicare ) so hopefully they will finish soon.... open to input or advice

 

[Heads Up]

I hear ya' there masonman, experimenting, I love it. Take my current grow as an example, my soil is a mix of ocean forest, happy frog, scott's and miracle grow organic soil. This is my first sativa grow, my first attempt at lst'ing, my first attempt at cloning, successful I might add and my first grow with no records of anything other than planting date and the date they were switched to 12/12. I'm not ph'ing my liquids, I'm not sticking to any kind of feeding schedule other than they get some kind of liquids every day.

My first grow in the tent is going to be a mix of soiless and soil. For the first couple of weeks I'm not going to give them any P, and see if that indeed does promote short stocky plants. As soon as they show sex, I'll hit them with flowering nutes. Jack's Classic blossom booster, which I'm using for my current grow, the NPK is 1-3-2. I also use molasses during flowering. What do I have to lose, a couple of bucks worth of supplies and some home-made beans?